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| + | *2.x? | ||
| + | ** [henrik]What is the status on the next release on the 2.x line? | ||
| + | *3.0.0 | ||
| + | ** [susan] M1 Release | ||
| + | ** [susan] Eclipse Move progress | ||
| + | ** [susan] Website and wiki | ||
| + | ** [susan] Initial Code Contribution | ||
| + | ** [susan] Issues migration | ||
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| + | * [manfred]Status on the Hudson book and strategy going forward | ||
| + | ** [henrik] Can the supporting images/icons be released from copyright restrictions? Enough so that if a OSS plugin book starts it can re-use some of the styling. | ||
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| + | * [henrik] Status of eclipse gerrit rollout | ||
| + | * [henrik] Status of new hudson-on hudson ? Mayby we should not move the actual hudson jobs,as I have most of them working already ready to load using the jobcreator tool | ||
| + | * [henrik] Last time winston said he had "How to" for almost all extension points, can they be put online? | ||
| + | * [henrik] What is our recommended plugin development going forward? | ||
| + | ** Do we recommend using @Extention or JSR330? | ||
| + | ** Are we moving away from Descriptor/Descripable and @DataBoundConstructor (stapler stuff)? | ||
| + | ** If we are is there any documentation on what the JSR330 replacements are ? (reading the sisu docs is not enough) | ||
| + | *[henrik] Could we use something like : https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Plugin+Compatibility+Tester. I think it would be a good idea, but I am not sure how much of the solution itself we can reuse. Personally I am not too fond of just downloading via a update centre, and it doesn't seem to support adding more tests in case the plugin provided ones are sub-standard. | ||
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| + | = Minutes = | ||
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| + | rough notes first! | ||
| + | Add or comment on agenda items here, just prefix the item with your name so we can identify you on the call: | ||
| + | *2.x? | ||
| + | ** [henrik]What is the status on the next release on the 2.x line? | ||
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** [susan] Issues migration | ** [susan] Issues migration | ||
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* [manfred]Status on the Hudson book and strategy going forward | * [manfred]Status on the Hudson book and strategy going forward | ||
| − | * [henrik] | + | ** [henrik] Can the supporting images/icons be released from copyright restrictions? Enough so that if a OSS plugin book starts it can re-use some of the styling. |
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| − | + | * [henrik] Status of eclipse gerrit rollout - lucas send bug out | |
| − | * | + | * [henrik] Status of new hudson-on hudson ? Mayby we should not move the actual hudson jobs,as I have most of them working already ready to load using the jobcreator tool - all but 3/4 cleared up plugins depending on snaps |
| − | ** | + | * [henrik] Last time winston said he had "How to" for almost all extension points, can they be put online? - winston to mail out. winston will send them out. |
| + | * [henrik] What is our recommended plugin development going forward? | ||
| + | jsr330 (but latest tutorial not using it) | ||
| + | ** Do we recommend using @Extention or JSR330? for m2 - convert extension points to JSR330. then write and publish a plugin to encourage. if anyone already has notes, please let us know. (very little JSR330 doc) start with bundled plugins. | ||
| + | how to migrate old style - | ||
| + | how descriptor describle fits it | ||
| + | ** Are we moving away from Descriptor/Descripable ? winston, cannot get rid of descriptoo/describable as will break existing plugins and needed with Jelly | ||
| + | ** If we are is there any documentation on what the JSR330 replacements are ? (reading the sisu docs is not enough) - not much, hence winston will document for plugin developers. | ||
*[henrik] Could we use something like : https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Plugin+Compatibility+Tester. I think it would be a good idea, but I am not sure how much of the solution itself we can reuse. Personally I am not too fond of just downloading via a update centre, and it doesn't seem to support adding more tests in case the plugin provided ones are sub-standard. | *[henrik] Could we use something like : https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Plugin+Compatibility+Tester. I think it would be a good idea, but I am not sure how much of the solution itself we can reuse. Personally I am not too fond of just downloading via a update centre, and it doesn't seem to support adding more tests in case the plugin provided ones are sub-standard. | ||
| + | - we can write something that compiles from JSON against newer releases - winston and henrik to discuss and try it | ||
| + | eclipsecon - tutorial and session. | ||
| + | - user stories and feedback would be good | ||
| + | mailing lists - why 2? | ||
| + | cannot convert existing subscribers to eclipse - so would have to start from scratch. | ||
| + | in eclipse - user forum, dev list - no user list - plugin developers - not eclipse. | ||
| + | shall we change the uncaught exception message in hudson - to mail eclipse dev list - WINSTON to update | ||
| + | do we need a plugin dev list outside eclipse? have one list is better. start making suggestion to dev to move to dev list. | ||
| + | DECISION: more investigation and discuss in dev list | ||
| + | java.net - user list - continue? | ||
| + | eclispelink/aspectj both have user and dev mailing lists. - can we? is there an archive for browsing. | ||
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| + | svnkit - upgrade on fly is hard to accomplish - need to host SVN outside eclipse (github) and have users install it. M2 - winston to experiment on how best to achieve this? Geoff to log ER | ||
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| + | if remove SVN - shall we remove git and CVS too? perhaps unbundle CVS completely if we are doing this. but many eclipse projects are still using CVS at the moment. | ||
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| + | same with maven2 - on first install rather than loading additional plugins that are not used. | ||
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| + | on upgrade - prompt to refresh too? winston to investigate if this is more problematic once a Hudson home is present. | ||
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| + | update center - although maven2 is turned off - still asked if want to upgrade -(cos bundled) - another annoyance solved if external. | ||
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| − | + | Susan Duncan | |
| + | Geoff Waymark | ||
| + | Stuart McCulloch | ||
| + | Henrik | ||
| + | Brian Fry | ||
| + | Lucas Panjer | ||
| + | Winston Prakash | ||
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Agenda
Add or comment on agenda items here, just prefix the item with your name so we can identify you on the call:
- 2.x?
- [henrik]What is the status on the next release on the 2.x line?
- 3.0.0
- [susan] M1 Release
- [susan] Eclipse Move progress
- [susan] Website and wiki
- [susan] Initial Code Contribution
- [susan] Issues migration
- [manfred]Status on the Hudson book and strategy going forward
- [henrik] Can the supporting images/icons be released from copyright restrictions? Enough so that if a OSS plugin book starts it can re-use some of the styling.
- [henrik] Status of eclipse gerrit rollout
- [henrik] Status of new hudson-on hudson ? Mayby we should not move the actual hudson jobs,as I have most of them working already ready to load using the jobcreator tool
- [henrik] Last time winston said he had "How to" for almost all extension points, can they be put online?
- [henrik] What is our recommended plugin development going forward?
- Do we recommend using @Extention or JSR330?
- Are we moving away from Descriptor/Descripable and @DataBoundConstructor (stapler stuff)?
- If we are is there any documentation on what the JSR330 replacements are ? (reading the sisu docs is not enough)
- [henrik] Could we use something like : https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Plugin+Compatibility+Tester. I think it would be a good idea, but I am not sure how much of the solution itself we can reuse. Personally I am not too fond of just downloading via a update centre, and it doesn't seem to support adding more tests in case the plugin provided ones are sub-standard.
Minutes
rough notes first!
Add or comment on agenda items here, just prefix the item with your name so we can identify you on the call:
- 2.x?
- [henrik]What is the status on the next release on the 2.x line?
- 3.0.0
- [susan] M1 Release
- [susan] Eclipse Move progress
- [susan] Website and wiki
- [susan] Initial Code Contribution
- [susan] Issues migration
- [manfred]Status on the Hudson book and strategy going forward
- [henrik] Can the supporting images/icons be released from copyright restrictions? Enough so that if a OSS plugin book starts it can re-use some of the styling.
- [henrik] Status of eclipse gerrit rollout - lucas send bug out
- [henrik] Status of new hudson-on hudson ? Mayby we should not move the actual hudson jobs,as I have most of them working already ready to load using the jobcreator tool - all but 3/4 cleared up plugins depending on snaps
- [henrik] Last time winston said he had "How to" for almost all extension points, can they be put online? - winston to mail out. winston will send them out.
- [henrik] What is our recommended plugin development going forward?
jsr330 (but latest tutorial not using it)
- Do we recommend using @Extention or JSR330? for m2 - convert extension points to JSR330. then write and publish a plugin to encourage. if anyone already has notes, please let us know. (very little JSR330 doc) start with bundled plugins.
how to migrate old style - how descriptor describle fits it
- Are we moving away from Descriptor/Descripable ? winston, cannot get rid of descriptoo/describable as will break existing plugins and needed with Jelly
- If we are is there any documentation on what the JSR330 replacements are ? (reading the sisu docs is not enough) - not much, hence winston will document for plugin developers.
- [henrik] Could we use something like : https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Plugin+Compatibility+Tester. I think it would be a good idea, but I am not sure how much of the solution itself we can reuse. Personally I am not too fond of just downloading via a update centre, and it doesn't seem to support adding more tests in case the plugin provided ones are sub-standard.
- we can write something that compiles from JSON against newer releases - winston and henrik to discuss and try it
eclipsecon - tutorial and session. - user stories and feedback would be good
mailing lists - why 2? cannot convert existing subscribers to eclipse - so would have to start from scratch. in eclipse - user forum, dev list - no user list - plugin developers - not eclipse. shall we change the uncaught exception message in hudson - to mail eclipse dev list - WINSTON to update do we need a plugin dev list outside eclipse? have one list is better. start making suggestion to dev to move to dev list. DECISION: more investigation and discuss in dev list java.net - user list - continue?
eclispelink/aspectj both have user and dev mailing lists. - can we? is there an archive for browsing.
svnkit - upgrade on fly is hard to accomplish - need to host SVN outside eclipse (github) and have users install it. M2 - winston to experiment on how best to achieve this? Geoff to log ER
if remove SVN - shall we remove git and CVS too? perhaps unbundle CVS completely if we are doing this. but many eclipse projects are still using CVS at the moment.
same with maven2 - on first install rather than loading additional plugins that are not used.
on upgrade - prompt to refresh too? winston to investigate if this is more problematic once a Hudson home is present.
update center - although maven2 is turned off - still asked if want to upgrade -(cos bundled) - another annoyance solved if external.
Susan Duncan
Geoff Waymark
Stuart McCulloch
Henrik
Brian Fry
Lucas Panjer
Winston Prakash