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Planning Council/September 6 2017

Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, September 06, 2017, at 1200 Noon Eastern
Dial in: (See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)

Phone Numbers: (Check Asterisk/Numbers for more or current phone numbers.)

For all phone lines: Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
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  • Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
  • SIP clients:
call 710@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 35498.

Members

Planning Council Chair: Melanie Bats

Eclipse Foundation

  • Wayne Beaton
  • Frederic Gurr
  • Mikael Barbero

Strategic Members

  • CA Technologies
  • CEA LIST
  • Codenvy, S.A. (Tyler Jewell)
  • Ericsson AB (Marc Khouzam Marc-Andre Laperle)
  • IBM (Thomas Watson)
  • itemis AG (Alexander Nyssen)
  • OBEO (Melanie Bats)
  • Oracle (Neil Hauge)
  • Red Hat, Inc. (Nick Boldt)
  • Robert Bosch GmbH
  • SAP SE (Stephan Merker)

PMC Representatives

  • Business Intelligence and Reporting Tools (BIRT) PMC (Gary Xue)
  • Data Tools Platform PMC (Brian Payton)
  • Eclipse Cloud Development PMC (Martin Lippert)
  • Eclipse Project PMC (Dani Megert) - R
  • IoT
  • LocationTech Technology
  • Eclipse Modeling Project PMC (Ed Merks)
  • Mylyn (Application Lifecycle Tools) PMC (Sam Davis)
  • PolarSys
  • Eclipse Runtime Project (RT) PMC (Ian Bull)
  • Eclipse Science
  • Service Oriented Architecture PMC (Adrian Mos)
  • Technology PMC (Chris Aniszczyk)
  • Tools Project PMC (Aleksandar Kurtakov)
  • Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project (WTP) PMC (Carl Anderson)

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact Wayne Beaton if questions.

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected

Previous meeting minutes

  • Review previous meeting minutes if you'd like. That is, review them before the meeting, but if questions or issues with previous minutes, this would be a good time to bring them up.

Agenda

  • Oxygen.1 status (by Fred Gurr/Mikael Barbero)
  • Photon update (by Fred Gurr/Mikael Barbero)
  • Java 9 release
  • Brainstorm about the future of the SimRel (by Mélanie Bats)


Notes

Attendance

Aleksandar Kurtakov (Tools Project), Carl Anderson (Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project), Frederic Gurr (Eclipse Foundation), Mélanie Bats (Obeo), Mikael Barbero (Eclipse Foundation), Thomas Watson (IBM), Wayne Beaton (Eclipse Foundation)

Oxygen.1/Photon status (Frederic Gurr /Mikaël Barbero)

Fred sums up the status of the Oxygen.1 release:

  • some problems with the EPP package, it was not provided for the first RC
  • unreliable services for macOS build (UI testing, macOS bundles & DMG files creation and signing). Mikael is trying to replace the actual old MacMini machine by a new one not hosted anymore by the Eclipse infrastruture, there will be two separate machines one for the UI testing and another one for the signing services. As this new infra will not be ready for Oxygen.1, an on demand signing is proposed for people needing signing service.

See the message sent by Mikael on the cross project mailing list for details: https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg14725.html

Next relevant dates for Oxygen.1:

  • Oxygen.1 RC4 EPP Thursday, September 14, 2017
  • Oxygen.1 RC4 Friday, September 15, 2017
  • Oxygen.1 Wednesday, September 27, 2017

Next photon milestone, eveything is ok. Wayne ask for projects on the cross project list to declare there intention to opt-in: https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg14694.html Projects must declare before the M4 milestone. +1 and +2 projects should declare and participate earlier as there is more consequences because of the depending projects. If a project does not declared its intention before M4, it will be out at M5. An email will be sent on cross-project this week by Wayne at this subject.

Next relevant dates for Photon:

  • Photon M2 Friday, September 22, 2017
  • Photon M3 Friday, November 03, 2017
  • Photon M4 Friday, December 15, 2017

Java 9 release

The schedule for the Oxygen Update 1a (Java 9 and JUnit 5) is:

  • Oxygen JDT Official JDK9 release on Thursday, September 21
  • Oxygen.1a Platform RC1 on Friday, September 22
  • Oxygen.1a RC1 on Friday, September 29,
  • Oxygen.1a Platform RC2 on Friday, September 29
  • Oxygen.1a RC2 on Friday October 6
  • Oxygen.1a Wednesday, October 11

Brainstorm about the future of the SimRel (by Mélanie Bats)

The java community decided to move to a new Java release cycle with a new Java release every 6 months in March and September starting from 2018: https://mreinhold.org/blog/forward-faster

Melanie launched a discussion during the August meeting about the future of the release train to evolve to a rolling release: https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-planning-council/msg02779.html

Mélanie asked the Planning Council members to review and comment the following document before the next Plannning Council meeting in October: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R3RhAKMFbtBrv3KcyLV48mQJRs59GHao7XEbzZM07Jw/edit?usp=sharing