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Planning Council/December 02 2009


Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, December 02, 2009, at 1700 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1200 NYC / 1700 London / 1800 Berlin
Dial-in: For the call-in numbers, see the "Project Review" number on Foundation Portal page.


PMC (and Strategic) Reps

Chris Aniszczyk Technology (PMC)
John Arthorne Eclipse (PMC)
Oliver Cole Tptp (PMC) Y
Brian Payton Datatools (PMC) Y
 ?Doug Gaff? Dsdp (PMC)
Anthony Hunter Tools (PMC)
Oisin Hurley Stp (PMC) Y
Ed Merks Modeling (PMC) Y
Thomas Watson Rt (PMC) Y
David Williams WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair) Y
Gary Xue Birt (PMC) Y

Strategic Reps

Cedric Brun OBEO (Strategic Developer) Y
Stefan Daume Cloudsmith Inc.(Strategic Developer) Y
Neil Hauge Oracle (Strategic Developer) Y
Kaloyan Raev SAP AG (Strategic Developer) Y
Markus Knauer Innoopract (Strategic Developer) Y
Christian Kurzke Motorola (Strategic Developer)


Wayne Beaton Eclipse Foundation (appointed)
Mike Milinkovich Eclipse Foundation (appointed)

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time


 ? Nokia (Strategic Developer) X
 ? CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer) X
 ? brox IT-Solutions GmbH (Strategic Developer) X

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members we have not heard from in a year or so, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.


Any issues or news about SR2?

None raised.


Criteria and Process


main planning document

Made current. Added SR dates (exactly one day early that Galileo's to keep Monday to Friday patterns).

Notes: some suggestions made, such as to emphasize the repeating pattern of dates (fourth Wednesday of June, forth Fridays of September and February). Decided to pull 'participating projects' table into its own page.

Was approved, by the 'hearing no objection' method.


Eclipse Simultaneous Release Requirements.

Removed 'maturity' requirement. Tweaked capabilities requirement. Added Accessibility requirement per advice of Cross Project Team. General cleanup.

Notes: Some general comments made, but unanimously approved by roll-call vote. (As promised, Ed did follow up with email, and he even approved! :) Oisin and Cedric had to leave call early, before the vote, but I will follow up on mailing list.

One comment was that we might need some "summary" of the requirements, such as a one page checklist. It is believed the eventual "reporting app" will provide this sort of view, but if not we can write a summary later.

Another comment was that Helios itself should have a Retention Policy explicitly stated. Tom will followup with proposed wording.

Another comment was that there is no 'helios' field for projects to mark in Portal. Request was made this morning, and Karl has updated, and it should be on 12/3, after the next Portal update code rolls out.

Proposed (initial) Cross-Project Teams


John Arthorne (Platform)
Thomas Hallgren (Buckminster)


See Planning_Council/Cross_Project_Teams/Accessibility

Their advice was incorporated into requirements document.

Their work is done. Much thanks to Tammy, Kentarou, Neil, and Kaloyan.


Tim deBoer (IBM/WTP)
Oleg Besedin (Platform)

Have decided not needed ... improvement is possible (with work) but not enough interest.

Structure of Common Discovery Site

users vs. extenders (minimum runtimes vs. SDKs)
runtime targets vs. tools
hierarchical categories (are more levels required?)

How to track

Web App (form based). Need concrete proposal for sizing.

ToDo Items

(volunteers welcome)

  • coordinate community input for next year's name (Oliver says last year this was started "shortly before EclipseCon" ... so, no rush).

Next Meeting

January 6, Wednesday, Noon Eastern Time.


Helios Simultaneous Release

Planning Council Members

Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO

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