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=== Announcements And Special Reports ===
 
=== Announcements And Special Reports ===
  
* Please update [[WTP Smoke Test Scenarios R31]]
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* Please [http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/Package_Testing/Results/JavaEEIDE/20090521 test EPP JEE Package], if you are able.
  
* We (PMC) have decided to submit one set of review materials for 3.1 Review.  
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* We (PMC) have decided to not to advocate a "3.0.6" maintenance release, though we are sure there will be some patches required post 3.0.5.
:: So no need to press "submit" after you fix up Project level IP logs
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:: PLs will still need to provide input/sections
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:: Due 5/29 ... I'll get drafts started within the week.
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=== WTP Calendar ===
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* We (PMC) and the Eclipse Planning Council have decided to have a more uniform look to the Provider information in the about box. We do '''not''' have to do any mass changes to all the plugins and all features, but any "branding" features (those that show up in the about box) should use common branding; same icon and same Provider name: "Eclipse Web Tools Platform". See [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273772 bug 273772] for new icons, etc.
<googlecalendar width="640" height="500" title="WTP Calendar">23u09qluqisen61r5r585ke1uc@group.calendar.google.com</googlecalendar>
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::This will likely be done by during RC2 and RC3 unless anyone objects.
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::One implications is that our current "branding" plugins of "o.e.wst" and "o.e.jst" will be going away.
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::Another is that our "assembly features" will be changing. These are the container features, o.e.wst and o.e.jst.
  
== Focus on Quality (Neil) - On hold for now ==
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''Konstantin recommended that ALL features point to a branding plugin, so users can more easily see that's installed, what's not. (Or, put another way, the about box list is not very user friendly). I think that'd might take more review than we may have time for, and there has been improvements in 3.5 we should see, and want to avoid too much last minute churn. Immediate conclusion is that current ones that specify branding will be changed to be consistent. ''
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=== WTP Calendar ===
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<googlecalendar width="640" height="500" title="WTP Calendar">23u09qluqisen61r5r585ke1uc@group.calendar.google.com</googlecalendar>
  
:*Focus Item:
 
  
:*Upcoming Focus item
 
  
:*Past Focus Items
 
::*[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_severity&y_axis_field=product&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=WebTools&target_milestone=---&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=nowords&keywords=helpwanted&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&emailtype1=regexp&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=2000-01-01&chfieldto=2009-04-01&chfield=%5BBug+creation%5D&chfieldvalue=&format=table&action=wrap&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=%7C%2C Untargeted severity "Major" and higher bugs opened before April 1st, 2009] (54, 29, 20)
 
::*Options:
 
:::*Target to a specific release or "future" if planning to fix but not in the next release
 
:::*Adjust severity as appropriate
 
::*[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_severity&y_axis_field=product&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=WebTools&product=ATF&product=Dali+JPA+Tools&product=Java+Server+Faces&product=Web+Tools&product=WTP+Common+Tools&product=WTP+Datatools&product=WTP+EJB+Tools&product=WTP+Incubator&product=WTP+Java+EE+Tools&product=WTP+Releng&product=WTP+ServerTools&product=WTP+Source+Editing&product=WTP+Webservices&product=WTP+Website&target_milestone=---&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=2000-01-01&chfieldto=2008-10-01&chfield=%5BBug+creation%5D&chfieldvalue=&format=table&action=wrap&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1&field0-1-0=attachments.isobsolete&type0-1-0=equals&value0-1-0=0 Untargeted bugs with patches attached opened before October 1st, 2008] (51, 47, 38, 34, 23)
 
::*Options:
 
:::*Mark invalid patches as obsolete
 
:::*Target bugs to a release or "future" if not a current release
 
::*[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_severity&y_axis_field=product&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=WebTools&target_milestone=---&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=nowords&keywords=helpwanted&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&emailtype1=regexp&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=2000-01-01&chfieldto=2008-06-01&chfield=%5BBug+creation%5D&chfieldvalue=&format=table&action=wrap&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=%7C%2C Untargeted severity "Major" and higher bugs opened before June 1st, 2008] (64, 36, 21, 9, 0)
 
::*Options:
 
:::*Target to a specific release or "future" if planning to fix but not in the next release
 
:::*Adjust severity as appropriate
 
  
 
== WTP 3.0.5 ==
 
== WTP 3.0.5 ==
  
* Ready to declare 3.0.5 RC2?  
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* Ready to declare 3.0.5 RC3?  
::[[WTP_Smoke_Test_Results_R305_051409 | May 14, 2009]] >= [http://build.eclipse.org/webtools/committers/wtp-R3.0-M/20090514023324/M-3.0.5-20090514023324/ M-3.0.5-20090514023324]
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::[[WTP_Smoke_Test_Results_R305_052109 | May 21, 2009]] >= [http://build.eclipse.org/webtools/committers/wtp-R3.0-M/20090521045405/M-3.0.5-20090521045405/ M-3.0.5-20090521045405]
  
* PMC Review required (2 votes now): [http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/3.0.5/pmc-bug-approval.php 3.0.5 PMC Vote Summary]
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* PMC Review required (3 votes now): [http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/3.0.5/pmc-bug-approval.php 3.0.5 PMC Vote Summary]
  
 
* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=hotbug&classification=WebTools&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Hotbugs]
 
* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=hotbug&classification=WebTools&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Hotbugs]
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== WTP 3.1 ==
 
== WTP 3.1 ==
  
* RC1 due next Tuesday!  
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* RC2 due next Tuesday!  
* We'll start a weekly Monday/Tuesday rhythm for 3.1 RC rampdown
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* [http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/3.1.0/pmc-bug-approval.php PMC Review]  
* [http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/3.1.0/pmc-bug-approval.php PMC Review] has started.
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* Bug Triage
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Reference:
:: There are still approximately [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bugidtype=include&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&classification=WebTools&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field-1-0-0=classification&field-1-1-0=target_milestone&field-1-2-0=bug_status&field0-0-0=noop&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&query_format=advanced&remaction=&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&target_milestone=3.1%20M7&type-1-0-0=anyexact&type-1-1-0=anyexact&type-1-2-0=anyexact&type0-0-0=noop&value-1-0-0=WebTools&value-1-1-0=3.1%20M7&value-1-2-0=NEW%2CASSIGNED%2CREOPENED&value0-0-0=&votes=&order=bugs.priority%2Cmap_components.name%2Cbugs.delta_ts%2Cbugs.delta_ts%2Cbugs.priority%2Cbugs.bug_id&query_based_on= 7 bugs] targeted to M7?!
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:: All [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=WebTools&target_milestone=3.1&target_milestone=3.1+RC1&target_milestone=3.1+RC2&target_milestone=3.1+RC3&target_milestone=3.1+RC4&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit open 3.1 bugs]([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=target_milestone&y_axis_field=product&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&classification=WebTools&target_milestone=3.1&target_milestone=3.1+M1&target_milestone=3.1+M2&target_milestone=3.1+M3&target_milestone=3.1+M4&target_milestone=3.1+M5&target_milestone=3.1+M6&target_milestone=3.1+M7&target_milestone=3.1+RC1&target_milestone=3.1+RC2&target_milestone=3.1+RC3&target_milestone=3.1+RC4&target_milestone=2.1&target_milestone=2.1+M1&target_milestone=2.1+M2&target_milestone=2.1+M3&target_milestone=2.1+M4&target_milestone=2.1+M5&target_milestone=2.1+M6&target_milestone=2.1+M7&target_milestone=2.1+RC1&target_milestone=2.1+RC2&target_milestone=2.1+RC3&target_milestone=2.1+RC4&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&format=table&action=wrap table])
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[http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=webtools Project Plans]
  
Let's review:
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Angel pointed out the target environments link was wrong (pointing to 3.4). The correct one
 
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is http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse#target_environments
[http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=webtools Project Plans]
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and Raghu agreed to update our plan document.
  
 
and ...  
 
and ...  
 
''Konstantin volunteered to pursue questions with EMO on how to treat the people who are not current committers, but for which cvs shows some code touching''.
 
 
and he did, see [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06915.html wtp-dev list message] for details (but usually, not an issue that requires action).
 
  
 
Project Leads please update "automatic" IP Logs. See [[Development_Resources/Automatic IP Log]]
 
Project Leads please update "automatic" IP Logs. See [[Development_Resources/Automatic IP Log]]
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:[http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=webtools.jsf jsf]
 
:[http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=webtools.jsf jsf]
 
:[http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=webtools.dali dali]
 
:[http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=webtools.dali dali]
 
 
=== Ramp down ===
 
 
Reference our [[WTP_3.1_Ramp_down_Plan_for_Galileo| ramp down plan and policies]]
 
 
Should we participate in RC2? Ans: Yes (but expect to be pretty small, since 25th is U.S. Holiday)
 
  
 
=== Schedule ===
 
=== Schedule ===
 
  
 
Our initial schedule was based on [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg02686.html Platform's proposed schedule].
 
Our initial schedule was based on [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg02686.html Platform's proposed schedule].
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== References ==
 
== References ==
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[[WTP_3.1_Ramp_down_Plan_for_Galileo| ramp down plan and policies]]
  
 
See also the [[WTP Meeting Archive-Reference Page]].
 
See also the [[WTP Meeting Archive-Reference Page]].

Latest revision as of 14:58, 21 May 2009

WTP Development Status Meeting

Attendees

Project Leads
Konstantin Y
Tim
Keith
Nitin
Chuck
Kaloyan Y
Raghu
Neil Y
David Y
Committers
Bob
Carl Y
Dave
Naci
Larry
Kate
Angel Y
Valentin Y
Gary
Paul
Nick Y
Gerry
Gabriel
Eric Y
Kiril
Friends
Chris Y
Elson

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.

Announcements And Special Reports

  • We (PMC) have decided to not to advocate a "3.0.6" maintenance release, though we are sure there will be some patches required post 3.0.5.
  • We (PMC) and the Eclipse Planning Council have decided to have a more uniform look to the Provider information in the about box. We do not have to do any mass changes to all the plugins and all features, but any "branding" features (those that show up in the about box) should use common branding; same icon and same Provider name: "Eclipse Web Tools Platform". See bug 273772 for new icons, etc.
This will likely be done by during RC2 and RC3 unless anyone objects.
One implications is that our current "branding" plugins of "o.e.wst" and "o.e.jst" will be going away.
Another is that our "assembly features" will be changing. These are the container features, o.e.wst and o.e.jst.

Konstantin recommended that ALL features point to a branding plugin, so users can more easily see that's installed, what's not. (Or, put another way, the about box list is not very user friendly). I think that'd might take more review than we may have time for, and there has been improvements in 3.5 we should see, and want to avoid too much last minute churn. Immediate conclusion is that current ones that specify branding will be changed to be consistent.

WTP Calendar



WTP 3.0.5

  • Ready to declare 3.0.5 RC3?
May 21, 2009 >= M-3.0.5-20090521045405

3.0.5 schedule:

April 10 - M build
April 24 - M build
May 8 - RC1
All changes after May 8 require PMC approval (1 vote)
May 15 - RC2
All changes after May 15 require PMC approval (2 votes)
May 22 - final build
May 29 - 3.0.5 GA

WTP 3.1

Reference:

Project Plans

Angel pointed out the target environments link was wrong (pointing to 3.4). The correct one is http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse#target_environments and Raghu agreed to update our plan document.

and ...

Project Leads please update "automatic" IP Logs. See Development_Resources/Automatic IP Log

common
servertools
sourceediting
webservices
jeetools
ejbtools
jsf
dali

Schedule

Our initial schedule was based on Platform's proposed schedule.

The official "must do" schedule is the +2 category in the Galileo Simultaneous Release.

Normally, our milestone are one week after the Platform's delivery. Exceptions noted below.

3.0.1 Early Maintenance Release Aug 15
M1 -> Aug 22 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release)
3.0.2 Coordinated Maintenance Release Sep 24
M2 -> Sept 26 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release) (updated)
M3 -> Nov 7 (short milestone, since "making up" for added week above)
3.0.3 Early Maintenance Release Nov 14
M4 -> Dec 19
M5 -> Feb 6
3.0.4 Coordinated Maintenance Release Feb 25
M6 -> Wednesday, March 18 Feature Complete, API Freeze, UI Freeze, NLS, Accessibility
(EclipseCon March 23-27)
M7 -> Tuesday, May 5 Performance tuning, documentation, bug fixing
RC1 -> Tuesday, May 19 Serious bugs only, focus on stability.
RC2 -> Tuesday, May 26 Serious bugs only, focus on stability.
RC3 -> Tuesday, June 2 Very serious bugs only.
RC4 -> Tuesday, June 9 Very very serious bugs only.
RC5 -> Tuesday, June 16 Hopefully no changes from RC4. Prepare web pages, update sites, etc.
GA -> Wednesday, June 24

Other business

Bob Fraser and Nova the look and feel: (see bug 261721)

Bob reported about ready, but will be a few weeks, since he'll be out a week. There was some discussion of what to delete from website (e.g. delete phoenix and nova prototype pages).


References

ramp down plan and policies

See also the WTP Meeting Archive-Reference Page.