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:*Concurrency presentation (Gary - will present this week??)
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:*Concurrency presentation (Gary - will present this week)
 
:*Focus Item:
 
:*Focus Item:
 
::*[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_severity&y_axis_field=product&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=WebTools&product=ATF&product=Dali+JPA+Tools&product=Java+Server+Faces&product=Web+Tools&product=WTP+Common+Tools&product=WTP+Datatools&product=WTP+EJB+Tools&product=WTP+Incubator&product=WTP+Java+EE+Tools&product=WTP+Releng&product=WTP+ServerTools&product=WTP+Source+Editing&product=WTP+Webservices&product=WTP+Website&target_milestone=---&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=2000-01-01&chfieldto=2008-10-01&chfield=%5BBug+creation%5D&chfieldvalue=&format=table&action=wrap&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1&field0-1-0=attachments.isobsolete&type0-1-0=equals&value0-1-0=0 Untargeted bugs with patches attached opened before October 1st, 2008] (Last week 47 ; Currently ~ 47)
 
::*[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_severity&y_axis_field=product&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=WebTools&product=ATF&product=Dali+JPA+Tools&product=Java+Server+Faces&product=Web+Tools&product=WTP+Common+Tools&product=WTP+Datatools&product=WTP+EJB+Tools&product=WTP+Incubator&product=WTP+Java+EE+Tools&product=WTP+Releng&product=WTP+ServerTools&product=WTP+Source+Editing&product=WTP+Webservices&product=WTP+Website&target_milestone=---&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=2000-01-01&chfieldto=2008-10-01&chfield=%5BBug+creation%5D&chfieldvalue=&format=table&action=wrap&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1&field0-1-0=attachments.isobsolete&type0-1-0=equals&value0-1-0=0 Untargeted bugs with patches attached opened before October 1st, 2008] (Last week 47 ; Currently ~ 47)
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== WTP 3.0.5 ==
 
== WTP 3.0.5 ==
  
nothing to discuss yet.  
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Take a breath.
  
 
== WTP 3.1 ==
 
== WTP 3.1 ==
  
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Ready to declare weekly build?
  
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[http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Smoke_Test_Results_R31_022609 February 26, 2009]
  
 
=== Issues to watch moving up to M6 prereqs ===
 
=== Issues to watch moving up to M6 prereqs ===
  
 
*Common Navigator changes: may change again in M6. See [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=252293 bug 252293: LabelProviders do not obey override rules]
 
*Common Navigator changes: may change again in M6. See [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=252293 bug 252293: LabelProviders do not obey override rules]
 
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*JDT Compiler changes from I20090217-2200: [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-dev/msg08535.html eclipse-dev post]
 
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=== Schedule ===
 
=== Schedule ===
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::RC5 -> Jun 19 Hopefully no changes from RC4. Prepare web pages, update sites, etc.
 
::RC5 -> Jun 19 Hopefully no changes from RC4. Prepare web pages, update sites, etc.
 
::GA  -> Jun 24
 
::GA  -> Jun 24
 
 
 
  
 
== Other business ==
 
== Other business ==
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(see bug [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=261721 261721])
 
(see bug [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=261721 261721])
  
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Any more to discuss on XSL Graduation?
  
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:: agreed to move into source editing now. Focus on XML Project post Galileo.
  
 
== Advanced Topics:  ==
 
== Advanced Topics:  ==
  
Gary Karasiuk and Concurrancy
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Gary Karasiuk and [http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/concurrency/Concurrency-wtp.pdf Concurrency]
  
== Teams Status and Focus for Coming Week ==
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Excellent presentation and discussion.
  
==== Source Editing ====
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Dave Carver also recommended 'Clean Code' by Robert Martin.
* Ongoing triaging of incoming bug reports
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* Planning and working on M6
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==== Server Tools====
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Some problem areas in WTP were mentioned:
  
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Brian: models, especially emf lazy initialization (implies no immutable).
  
==== Web Services/WSDL ====
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Gary: classpath manipulations
#Ongoing triage of incoming and existing bugs.
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#Fixing and verifying bugs.
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==== Java EE ====
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Chuck asked if there could be better ways to debug who is holding a lock, that is, how to find out who's supposed to be notifying a monitor.
  
:[[JEE Status Meetings]]
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Some discussion that scheduling rules were good for some things, but in some cases, can make things worse. If I understood it correctly, they are good if and only if everyone uses them, and only them, but they don't "mix" well with normal Java threading (Please correct notes if I misunderstood).
 
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==== Dali JPT ====
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*JPT 2.0
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**Working on:
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***EclipseLink support
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***Bugs for M7
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***Performance
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==== JSF ====
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* Feature exceptions
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* Bug Fixes
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==== releng ====
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* triage/planning
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== References ==
 
== References ==
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:;*[[WTP Development Status Meetings]]
  
 
:*[[WTP/Build/WTP Build Rhythm Schedule|WTP Build Rhythm Schedule]]
 
:*[[WTP/Build/WTP Build Rhythm Schedule|WTP Build Rhythm Schedule]]
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:;*[http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_plan_3_4.html Eclipse 3.4 Project Plan] for the [[Ganymede Simultaneous Release]].
 
:;*[http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_plan_3_4.html Eclipse 3.4 Project Plan] for the [[Ganymede Simultaneous Release]].
 
:;*[[Eclipse/Galileo_Plan]]
 
:;*[[Eclipse/Galileo_Plan]]
:;*[[WTP Development Status Meetings]]
 
 
:;*[[WTP Performance Tests]]
 
:;*[[WTP Performance Tests]]
 
:;*[[WTP:_Tweaking_Access_Rules | Tweaking the Access Rules for WTP]]
 
:;*[[WTP:_Tweaking_Access_Rules | Tweaking the Access Rules for WTP]]

Latest revision as of 17:38, 26 February 2009

WTP Development Status Meeting

Attendees

Project Leads
Konstantin Y
Tim R
Nitin Y
Kathy
Chuck Y
Kaloyan Y
Raghu Y
Neil Y
David Y
Philippe
Committers
Bob
Carl Y
Dave Y
Naci
Larry
Kate
Angel
Valentin
Keith
Gary Y
Paul
Nick Y
Gerry
Kiril
Friends
Chris
Eric
Elson

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.

Announcements And Special Reports

Congratulations and thank you for WTP 3.0.4!

WTP Calendar


Focus on Quality (Neil)

  • Concurrency presentation (Gary - will present this week)
  • Focus Item:
  • Mark invalid patches as obsolete
  • Target bugs to a release or "future" if not a current release
  • Upcoming Focus item
  • Past Focus Items
  • Target to a specific release or "future" if planning to fix but not in the next release
  • Adjust severity as appropriate

WTP 3.0.5

Take a breath.

WTP 3.1

Ready to declare weekly build?

February 26, 2009

Issues to watch moving up to M6 prereqs

Schedule

Our schedule, based on Platform's proposed schedule.

Normally, our milestone are one week after the Platform's delivery. Exceptions noted below.

3.0.1 Early Maintenance Release Aug 15
M1 -> Aug 22 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release)
3.0.2 Coordinated Maintenance Release Sep 24
M2 -> Sept 26 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release) (updated)
M3 -> Nov 7 (short milestone, since "making up" for added week above)
3.0.3 Early Maintenance Release Nov 14
M4 -> Dec 19
M5 -> Feb 6
3.0.4 Coordinated Maintenance Release Feb 25
(EclipseCon March 23-27)
M6 -> Mar 20 Feature Complete, API Freeze, UI Freeze, NLS, Accessibility
M7 -> May 8 Performance tuning, documentation, bug fixing
RC1 -> May 22 Serious bugs only, focus on stability.
RC2 -> May 29 WTP will likely not participate in an RC2, based on feedback from last year that RC2 came too soon, needed more fixing, less testing
RC3 -> Jun 5 Very serious bugs only.
RC4 -> Jun 12 Very very serious bugs only.
RC5 -> Jun 19 Hopefully no changes from RC4. Prepare web pages, update sites, etc.
GA -> Jun 24

Other business

Bob Fraser and Nova the look and feel: (see bug 261721)

Any more to discuss on XSL Graduation?

agreed to move into source editing now. Focus on XML Project post Galileo.

Advanced Topics:

Gary Karasiuk and Concurrency

Excellent presentation and discussion.

Dave Carver also recommended 'Clean Code' by Robert Martin.

Some problem areas in WTP were mentioned:

Brian: models, especially emf lazy initialization (implies no immutable).

Gary: classpath manipulations

Chuck asked if there could be better ways to debug who is holding a lock, that is, how to find out who's supposed to be notifying a monitor.

Some discussion that scheduling rules were good for some things, but in some cases, can make things worse. If I understood it correctly, they are good if and only if everyone uses them, and only them, but they don't "mix" well with normal Java threading (Please correct notes if I misunderstood).

References

In general, the minimum requirement is that if you branch a plug-in, you need to branch all the plug-ins in the corresponding map file. This is to make it easier for others to know what to load, to "be current" in a maintenance branch. It is fine to branch everything in a sub-project if you choose to, but still need to correspond to what's in a map file, and the map file should be updated to explain what it's used for. Map files can be re-organized some, if that helps make it easier to organize and understand what teams are working on what.
The names for branches should follow the pattern of 'R3_0_maintenance'. This will be the name for all 3.0.x maintenance work (not just the first, 3.0.1 maintenance work). Note that JSF and JPA code may use R2_0_maintenance, but their map files, will still be branched using R3_0_maintenance.
  • Instructions for tagging existing and new WTP wiki pages can be found at WTP's Category page; remember, we can create subcategories as well
  • This Week's Smoke Test Results
WTP Smoke Test Results R30
Information about process for milestone bugzilla line item planning has been added to the WTP Bugs, Workflow, and Conventions document.
PMC Candidate Review Request Checklist - See the updated PMC Review document with attention to the "How To Prepare a PMC Defect Candidate" section
Adopter Migration Information for WTP 2.0 - Please add any details for your component.
  • Website
Documentation on Setting up your system for Web Tools Web site development and Using Web Tools Phoenix PHP templates is on the wiki at Web Tools Web Site Development.
  • Bug Day
Monitor and participate in Bug Day if you would like.
Mark any applicable bugs with keyword "bugday", but only if you'll have a representative on hand to respond through Bugzilla or in IRC
Current WTP Bug Day bugs (~53)


Project Meta data, for Project leads, especially, see "information about ..." from your subproject web page left nav bar.
Go to Foundation Portal
Login with committer ID
Click on "[maintain] Project Info meta-data"
Changes coming to IP Log management (more automated, but more for Project Leads to do?): See Development Resources/Automatic IP Log

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