WTP Development Status Meeting
Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Announcements And Special Reports
- EclipseCon 2009 Call For Participation
- Beginning our Auto IP Log Practice
- EclipseWorld trip report (materials are available)
- Reminder: Eclipse Summit coming up! (Nov. 19th, 20th)
- Planning council trip report: implications for our Galileo release
- Implications for our WTP Galileo release
- similar to past ones
- M4 first measured milestone
- More emphasis on localization, accessibility, non-API usage, defining and packaging capabilities
- Eclipsecon 2009 call for participation
- DaveC => XSL Tutorial submitted
- Thanks Nitin for the old help for new friend doc
- Auto IP Log
- link to full documentation to the automatic IP Log, also available under project info, eclipse portal page, project leads should bookmark
- IPLog flag in bugzilla, change that to a + if someone submits a patch who is not a committer
- Kathy: used to use contributed keyword? should use IPLog w/ a + sigh instead
- David: Starting now, and back in time for anything over the last few months
- last year's contributed
- Tim: set the IPLog and + sign on the patch or the bug?
- David: most specific thing, should do it on the patch, since patch only has 1 person's name attached to it
- Kaloyan: still use contributed?
- David: No need to remove if its already there, but no need to keep using it now
- Kosta: a committer on 1 subproject contributes to another project where she/she is not a committer on, then should that be marked as well?
- David: yes, its at a subproject level
- Kathy: where would these be listed eventually? IP log for various subproject?
- David: yes that is where it should be listed
- Nitin: For sse, its listing login name but not the actual person's name
- David: Name optional when sign up for bugzilla id, so it's not actually required, will take that question and try to find out
- Tim: Mine is showing up like that too
- David: could be timing related, when people became committers or became not committers, will look into that bugzilla id vs name. Will ask around if something could be done there or improve the report
- Don't hesitate to ask if you have questions on wtp-dev, the doc is very detailed as well, if can't find who to ask, then David can direct
- Gary: what if someone submits a patch, and its not used, fixed it up and used a new one, then what to do?
- David: if it is not used should be make obsolete, if using a modified a version then yes okay to count as IPLog+, should also give feedback to the sumitter to better patch submission process
- Attendance is way down from previous years, webtools classes was comparable to previous years, so still quite popular and well attended, material is available on the web, link posted
- Eclipse Summit
- upcoming: Kaloyan is presenting, Cameran for JSF
- David compliance will be driven by bugzilla, so can tell milestone by milestone
- Gary: who sets these must do and should dos? such as performance, how can we make it a must do?
- David: needs a champion on the planning council
- Gary: devote a milestone to performance?
- David: gets tricky if we start to pick out 1 area and make it a must do, as each project has its own objectives, its hard to dictate somethings encourage for us in WTP first to do it better
- 10/03 M build
- 10/17 M build
- 10/24 RC1 (PMC review starts after RC1, initially one vote)
- 10/31 RC2 (after RC2, two PMC votes)
- 11/7 RC3 (after RC3, three PMC votes)
- 11/14 3.0.3 Release
- PMC Approval list request
Build & Smoketest
- Not yet available
- Smoketest Results
- Final Test week next week 11/10
- Please update testplan
- Focus should be on verifying fixed bugs next week
- Only regression bugs found during testing or stopship will be considered by PMC
- Test results posted by 3pm EST Friday
Bug Lists for 3.0.3
- Blockers & Criticals (~2)
- All 3.0.3 Hotbugs (~1)
- In tabular form:
- Current 3.0.3 & 2.0.3 targeted bugs (~2)
- Web Tools
- Number Fixed for 3.0.3 (~159)
- Java Server Faces
- Dali JPA Tools
- SAP hotbug 251809: will have QA results tomorrow from SAP
- David: I'm good once the problem is good
- Tim: approve
- Chuck: likely to cause problems?
- Carl: code is passing through alot, but it is a specific area of fix is isolated
- will be checked into the build, while awaiting QA results tomorrow, Kaloyan will send out a note to releng with the results tomorrow. If bad, then will revert
Two issues came up when discussing the planning process
- How to handle "future" milestone target? Turns out we have discussed and documented this before, see WTP_Bugs, Workflow and Conventions#The meaning of "Future" milestone target.
- How can we better incorporate bugs-to-fix in 3.1 planning? Subsequent to meeting, I suggested that leads/committers should set the 3.1 milestone target for bugs that ideally should be fixed in 3.1, to help "prime the pot". For example, nearly all voted on bugs and "major" bugs should be so marked. I've added more bugzilla queries to WTP 3.1 Project Plan to assist.
- New format First draft 9/20, Final copy 10/30
- Please finish filling in the New and Noteworthy for M3 by Wednesday the 5th
- org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui will be moving to 1.1.0 when M4 begins, prepare accordingly
Adjusted schedule, based on Platform's proposed schedule.
Normally, our milestone are one week after the Platform's delivery. Exceptions noted below.
- 3.0.1 Early Maintenance Release Aug 15
- M1 -> Aug 22 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release)
- 3.0.2 Coordinated Maintenance Release Sep 24
- M2 -> Sept 26 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release) (updated)
- M3 -> Nov 7 (short milestone, since "making up" for added week above)
- 3.0.3 Early Maintenance Release Nov 14
- M4 -> Dec 19
- M5 -> Feb 6
- 3.0.4 Coordinated Maintenance Release Feb 25
- (EclipseCon March 23-27)
- M6 -> Mar 20 Feature Complete, API Freeze, UI Freeze, NLS, Accessibility
- M7 -> May 8 Performance tuning, documentation, bug fixing
- RC1 -> May 22 Serious bugs only, focus on stability.
- RC2 -> May 29 WTP will likely not participate in an RC2, based on feedback from last year that RC2 came too soon, needed more fixing, less testing
- RC3 -> Jun 5 Very serious bugs only.
- RC4 -> Jun 12 Very very serious bugs only.
- RC5 -> Jun 19 Hopefully no changes from RC4. Prepare web pages, update sites, etc.
- GA -> Jun 24
Build & Smoketest
- Awaiting fix for Junit error
- Test results
Bug List for 3.1
- 3.1 & 2.1 enhancements (~107)
- 3.1 & 2.1 targeted bugs (~296)
- In tabular form:
- Current 3.1 & 2.1 targeted bugs (~312)
- Blockers & Criticals (~2)
- 3.1 & 2.1 hotbugs (~0)
- Thre New Incubator proposals
- Visual Editor => going under initial review, and approval to check code into CVS
- XML Security => going through IP review
- XQuery => final paper work, done IP review
Build subscription information
- Build notification list added: Angel, Nitin, Neil, Raghu
- Kaloyan: WTP performance call on Mondays moved to today as a section on WTP Performance
- Last meeting defined open action items, listed under WTP performance wiki page
- Anyone has any comments on those to note there
- Gary: Questions on instruction, running for a development environment?
- Kaloyan: Yes for now dev only
Teams Status and Focus for Coming Week
The minutes of the meetings are posted. Next meeting is next Monday same time. See details on the wiki page: WTP Performance Tests
- Ongoing triaging of incoming bug reports
- Working on 3.0.3 and M3
- Deciding overall themes and plan for 3.1
- Ongoing triage of incoming and existing bugs.
- Fixing and verifying bugs.
- JPT 2.0
- Working on:
- EclipseLink support
- Bugs for M7
- Working on:
- Feature exceptions
- Bug Fixes
- In general, the minimum requirement is that if you branch a plug-in, you need to branch all the plug-ins in the corresponding map file. This is to make it easier for others to know what to load, to "be current" in a maintenance branch. It is fine to branch everything in a sub-project if you choose to, but still need to correspond to what's in a map file, and the map file should be updated to explain what it's used for. Map files can be re-organized some, if that helps make it easier to organize and understand what teams are working on what.
- The names for branches should follow the pattern of 'R3_0_maintenance'. This will be the name for all 3.0.x maintenance work (not just the first, 3.0.1 maintenance work). Note that JSF and JPA code may use R2_0_maintenance, but their map files, will still be branched using R3_0_maintenance.
- Instructions for tagging existing and new WTP wiki pages can be found at WTP's Category page; remember, we can create subcategories as well
- This Week's Smoke Test Results
- Build Declaration Process Refined - See WTP Build Process and Procedures
- Information about process for milestone bugzilla line item planning has been added to the WTP Bugs, Workflow, and Conventions document.
- PMC Candidate Review Request Checklist - See the updated PMC Review document with attention to the "How To Prepare a PMC Defect Candidate" section
- Adopter Migration Information for WTP 2.0 - Please add any details for your component.
- Documentation on Setting up your system for Web Tools Web site development and Using Web Tools Phoenix PHP templates is on the wiki at Web Tools Web Site Development.
- Bug Day
- Monitor and participate in Bug Day if you would like.
- Mark any applicable bugs with keyword "bugday", but only if you'll have a representative on hand to respond through Bugzilla or in IRC
- Current WTP Bug Day bugs (~53)
- Project Meta data, for Project leads, especially, see "information about ..." from your subproject web page left nav bar.
- Go to Foundation Portal
- Login with committer ID
- Click on "[maintain] Project Info meta-data"
- Changes coming to IP Log management (more automated, but more for Project Leads to do?): See Development Resources/Automatic IP Log