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Tools PMC Meeting 2013-12-11
Logistics
Meeting Title: | Tools PMC Conference Call |
Date & Time: | Wednesday, December 11, 2013, at 1100 AM Eastern |
Dial in: | (See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, phone numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)
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Agenda
- Get acquainted.
- Attendees: Doug, Andy, Greg, Eric, Alex, David
- We discussed "Where's John?" :)
- Discussed "role of PMC" ... what's expected of new members? Doug and David mentioned the following specifics, but also admitted "we" have been doing a limited amount of things -- and their degree of "work" or "initiative" is up to them to define.
- Routine things:
- - Final approval on committer elections
- - Approve IP requests
- - Review and approve "Release requests".
- - Monitor project's activities, and initial termination review, if warranted.
- Less routine:
- - act as "ambassadors" to grow Eclipse in general and Tools projects when appropriate.
- - make suggestions to EMO if some aspect of process or infrastructure can be improved.
- - subscribe to other Top Level PMC lists and look for opportunities to "connect" projects (or, "introduce" them to each other).
- - monitor cross-project list and cross-project bugzilla component, if not already, to stay aware of general issues effecting any Tools project.
- - its nice to follow dev lists and bugzilla components of all (or several) Tools projects to stay aware of their activities.
- - follow our general, Top Level "Tools bugzilla component"
- We discussed a few "themes" from our new members that deserve on-going discussion:
- * Do we need to refine (or, at least document) some of our "approval" or PMC voting conventions?
- * "Why Tools?" In general, why should projects join Eclipse Foundation, and given that, what's pros and cons of being in "Tools" vs. some other project?
- * Some perceived "problems" with "Eclipse"
- - "looks out of date"
- - many languages (such as Groovy) have to "patch" JDT
- - how to get improvements contributed without "big backers" investing heavily in long term efforts? (Or, how to get some big backers to invest heavily. :)
- Next meeting: Second Wednesday, 1/8/2014, 11 AM Eastern.