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Somewhere around guideline 1.8/1.9 should mention guidelines for translated messages. In particular, when to use single quote and double quote (see discussion in [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=147075 bug 147075]).  It should also suggest that error messages not go into too much implementation detail or use technical language that end users will not typically understand. Also, I think the details of guideline 1.9 are incorrect.  We never show details such as plug-in id and version in error dialogs.  Perhaps this intended to say that errors in the '''log file''' should have those details (John Arthorne)
 
Somewhere around guideline 1.8/1.9 should mention guidelines for translated messages. In particular, when to use single quote and double quote (see discussion in [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=147075 bug 147075]).  It should also suggest that error messages not go into too much implementation detail or use technical language that end users will not typically understand. Also, I think the details of guideline 1.9 are incorrect.  We never show details such as plug-in id and version in error dialogs.  Perhaps this intended to say that errors in the '''log file''' should have those details (John Arthorne)
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I think the details in 1.9 are correct, it is a ready for websphere guideline I seem to remember. It does however only refer to programming errors and not user errors. Maybe the text should be a bit more explicit about what is meant by programming errors. If your application is just about to die with a null pointer exception it should tell the user exactly what piece of code did it. (Phill Perryman)
  
 
In the past commands were called actions and someone has done a global replace of action for command but not changed the "an" to an "a" so it now reads "an command" throughout the article instead of "a command". (Phill Perryman)
 
In the past commands were called actions and someone has done a global replace of action for command but not changed the "an" to an "a" so it now reads "an command" throughout the article instead of "a command". (Phill Perryman)
  
Can you please include the colour palette file or links to them. Re-creating the full 256 colour palette by hand would be difficut to ay the least. (Phill Perryman)
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Can you please include the colour palette file or links to them. Re-creating the full 256 colour palette by hand would be difficut to ay the least. Also my Eclipse (3.2) uses more than 2 colours for disabled icons and I can's seem to see any non colour enabled icons. Likewise your screen captures show non colour icons so do not look like the 3.2 Eclipse. Don't forget a link to the palette in 2.9 as well. Not sure what 2.15 means I only see colour and disabled icons.(Phill Perryman)
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Guideline 1.6 (sentence style) it does not mention that eclipse almost always adds a colon to the end of its labels when they prefix a control such as text or combo and that postfix labels have no terminator.(Phill Perryman)
  
Guideline 1.6 (sentence style) it does not mention that eclipse almost always adds a colon to the end of its labels when they prefix a control such as text or combo and that postfix labels have no terminator.
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Guidelines 3.4 and 3.5 contradict each other so should probably be a single recommendation with 3.4 having a providing... clause at the end.(Phill Perryman)

Revision as of 04:11, 4 August 2006

Question regarding 1.5.5.3.2 "Titlebar icons": Why are we documenting the behavior of a widget on a specific platform with specific theme enabled? These values are not guaranteed even just looking at windows alone. (Randy Hudson)

Somewhere around guideline 1.8/1.9 should mention guidelines for translated messages. In particular, when to use single quote and double quote (see discussion in bug 147075). It should also suggest that error messages not go into too much implementation detail or use technical language that end users will not typically understand. Also, I think the details of guideline 1.9 are incorrect. We never show details such as plug-in id and version in error dialogs. Perhaps this intended to say that errors in the log file should have those details (John Arthorne)

I think the details in 1.9 are correct, it is a ready for websphere guideline I seem to remember. It does however only refer to programming errors and not user errors. Maybe the text should be a bit more explicit about what is meant by programming errors. If your application is just about to die with a null pointer exception it should tell the user exactly what piece of code did it. (Phill Perryman)

In the past commands were called actions and someone has done a global replace of action for command but not changed the "an" to an "a" so it now reads "an command" throughout the article instead of "a command". (Phill Perryman)

Can you please include the colour palette file or links to them. Re-creating the full 256 colour palette by hand would be difficut to ay the least. Also my Eclipse (3.2) uses more than 2 colours for disabled icons and I can's seem to see any non colour enabled icons. Likewise your screen captures show non colour icons so do not look like the 3.2 Eclipse. Don't forget a link to the palette in 2.9 as well. Not sure what 2.15 means I only see colour and disabled icons.(Phill Perryman)

Guideline 1.6 (sentence style) it does not mention that eclipse almost always adds a colon to the end of its labels when they prefix a control such as text or combo and that postfix labels have no terminator.(Phill Perryman)

Guidelines 3.4 and 3.5 contradict each other so should probably be a single recommendation with 3.4 having a providing... clause at the end.(Phill Perryman)

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