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* Issue "in community" about having two streams of EPP builds. See {{bug|389175}}.
 
* Issue "in community" about having two streams of EPP builds. See {{bug|389175}}.
 
: The goal in our meeting to decide what action to take and/or how to respond in the bug.
 
: The goal in our meeting to decide what action to take and/or how to respond in the bug.
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:In mailing list, Ian provided these references to the issue, which I wanted to paste in here, to make sure easy to find.
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::http://mmilinkov.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/juno-performance/
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::http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg08120.html
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::http://www.jroller.com/andyl/entry/something_is_really_broken_with
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::https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385272
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::https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=389175
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::https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=389215
  
 
== Kepler ==
 
== Kepler ==

Revision as of 10:48, 3 October 2012

Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, October 03, 2012, at 1200 Eastern
Dial in: (See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)

Phone Numbers:

  • Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-454-1403
  • North America (toll free) 1-877-369-7806
  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) +49-692-2224-6059
  • France (local call anywhere in France) +33-17-070-8535
  • UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
  • Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
  • SIP clients:
call 710@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 35498.

Members and Attendees

PMC (and Strategic) Reps
Chris Aniszczyk Technology (PMC)
John Arthorne Eclipse (PMC)
Steffen Pingel Mylyn (ALM) PMC
Brian Payton Datatools (PMC)
Doug Schaefer Tools (PMC)
Adrian Mos SOA (PMC)
Ed Merks Modeling (PMC)
Ian Bull (Plus Jesse, transition) Rt (PMC)
David Williams WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair)
Gary Xue Birt (PMC)
Wayne Beaton Eclipse Foundation (appointed)
Strategic Reps
Cedric Brun OBEO (Strategic Developer)
Neil Hauge Oracle (Strategic Developer)
Kaloyan Raev SAP AG (Strategic Developer)
Igor Fedorenko Sonatype (Strategic Developer)
Markus Knauer Innoopract (Strategic Developer)
Achim Loerke BREDEX (Strategic Developer)
(PMC rep) Actuate (Strategic Developer) X
(PMC rep) IBM (Strategic Developer) X
Inactive
[no name] CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer) X

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected

Announcements

  •  ?

Juno

  • SR1 out and on time. Thanks!
well, sort of. "Updates" of EPP packages had to be disabled, due to a bug for Mac users, where the update operation would delete the eclipse.ini file.
Looks like solution nearly in hand and (I'm assuming) EPP will need to respin at least EPP repo (but, we should not have to respin common repo.
Unsure of plans (or recommendations) for re-spinning EPP downloadable packages. They are essentially correct, but (I think) if no respin then those that unzip and SR1 package will immediately be offered and update (that basically does nothing ... just a few IU versions change). I think. I don't think that'd be so bad ... but ... final call up to EPP (i.e Markus).
The surprising thing is that this problem was not noticed during testing. Guess no one well tests EPP updates on Mac's?
  • Issue "in community" about having two streams of EPP builds. See bug 389175.
The goal in our meeting to decide what action to take and/or how to respond in the bug.
In mailing list, Ian provided these references to the issue, which I wanted to paste in here, to make sure easy to find.
http://mmilinkov.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/juno-performance/
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg08120.html
http://www.jroller.com/andyl/entry/something_is_really_broken_with
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385272
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=389175
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=389215

Kepler

Kepler Requirements Planning

Begin discussion of requirements, if changes needed. To the extent possible, I suggest we start with high level issues this month (such as, should any be added, removed?) and perhaps finish up with wording changes for clarification (if any) next month.
Didn't discuss much. I brought up issue of low compliance to "greediness" issue, and as far as I know, to define everything in features is the only way for adopters to provide patches ... so ... either I need education, or better educate others on why important? Or ... maybe others don't need patches? What's alternative? New release? (which, adopters can not do "on their own", typically, such as for a "hot fix" for one customer).

Other Business

Next Meeting

  • November 7, 2012 (our regular "first Wednesday" meeting, at Noon Eastern).


Reference

Kepler Wiki page
Juno Wiki page
Planning Council/Indigo retrospective
Planning Council Members
Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO