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* create (and update) [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=helios helios container plan] (Wayne (re) volunteered)
  
*create (and update) [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=helios helios container plan] (Wayne (re) volunteered)
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* provide concrete instructions for (new) license-consistency requirement ... before M6? (John Arthorne).
  
*coordinate community input for next year's name (Oliver says last year this was started "shortly before EclipseCon" ... so, no rush).
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* coordinate community input for next year's name (Oliver says last year this was started "shortly before EclipseCon" ... so now's the time!.
 
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*provide concrete instructions for (new) license-consistency requirement (John Arthorne).
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== Other business  ==

Revision as of 10:07, 3 March 2010

Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, March 03, 2010, at 1700 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1200 NYC / 1700 London / 1800 Berlin
Dial-in: For the call-in numbers, see the "Project Review" number on Foundation Portal page.

Attendees

PMC (and Strategic) Reps

Chris Aniszczyk Technology (PMC)  
John Arthorne Eclipse (PMC)
Oliver Cole Tptp (PMC)
Brian Payton Datatools (PMC)
Doug Gaff ??? Dsdp (PMC)
Anthony Hunter Tools (PMC)
Oisin Hurley Stp (PMC)
Ed Merks Modeling (PMC)
Thomas Watson Rt (PMC)
David Williams WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair)
Gary Xue Birt (PMC)

Strategic Reps

Cedric Brun OBEO (Strategic Developer)
Stefan Daume Cloudsmith Inc.(Strategic Developer)
Neil Hauge Oracle (Strategic Developer)
Kaloyan Raev SAP AG (Strategic Developer)
Markus Knauer Innoopract (Strategic Developer)
Christian Kurzke Motorola (Strategic Developer)  

Appointed

Wayne Beaton Eclipse Foundation (appointed)  
Mike Milinkovich Eclipse Foundation (appointed)


Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time

Inactive

 ? Nokia (Strategic Developer) X
 ? CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer) X
 ? brox IT-Solutions GmbH (Strategic Developer) X


Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members we have not heard from in a year or so, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.


Galileo

Assessment of SR2

Potential (near?) negative impact on adopters:

Some "late"
Modeling EMF ?CDO? missed deadline
DTP final zips late (sort of)?
Not all projects had maintenance/rebuilds (do we need to explicitly "plan" for that?)
EclipseLink (thought they would not need an SR2, but after all decided they will need maintenance ... in March or so! ... apparently, this team has pattern of creating their service release shortly after the rest of us release?)
PDT (PHP Tools) didn't have an SR2, but I saw one user on mailing list saying "he sure thought they needed one, based on important fixes made in Helios, that could be back ported ... its a long time to wait" (I've no idea if he was accurate ... just raising as an example that caught my attention).
Potential for some Orbit Jars to not be consistent in some packages vs. others, if not everyone re-builds or re-packages. (Just one or two substantial changes, this time, but all others changed signatures).
There were nearly equal numbers of projects that supplied service, vs. those that did not
service released in SR2
  1. actf.build
  2. birt.build
  3. cdt.build
  4. dltk.build
  5. dsdp-tm.build
  6. dtp.build
  7. ecf.build
  8. eclipselink.build
  9. ep.build
  10. epp-udc.build
  11. equinox.build
  12. gef.build
  13. gmf.build
  14. jwt.build
  15. m2m-atl.build
  16. m2t-jet.build
  17. mylyn.build
  18. rap.build
  19. stp.build
  20. subversive.build
  21. swordfish.build
  22. tptp.build
  23. webtools.build
no service released with SR2
  1. buckminster.build
  2. dsdp-tm.build
  3. emf-cdo.build
  4. emf-compare.build
  5. emf-emf.build
  6. emf-net4j.build
  7. emf-teneo.build
  8. emf-transaction.build
  9. emft-ecoretools.build
  10. emft-mint.build
  11. emft-mwe.build
  12. m2m-qvtoml.build
  13. m2t-xpand.build
  14. mat.build
  15. mdt-ocl.build
  16. mdt-uml2.build
  17. mdt-uml2tools.build
  18. mdt-xsd.build
  19. pdt.build
  20. riena.build
  21. tmf-xtext.build


Any other concerns with SR2?

Good things:

Maintained "old" content (SR1) in repository (in addition to new)
Rolled out P2 artifacts before P2 metadata (instead of artifacts and metadata visible at same time)
Any other positive things with SR2 to document?

Helios

I want to recommend "guidelines" that may become "required" next year (but not for Helios)
I want to recommend naming of /<project>/repository/<release>/[SRn | datetimestamp]/
where 'project' is high level project (Top level? except Tools and Technology?)
where 'release' is Yearly Release name ... only for those in yearly release.
  • Also, do we agree that projects in release train can omit feature update URL, if they would like to (since the common one is built into platform). We need less "repository locations" clutter. Risk is it would be a little harder to provide off-cycle maintenance (users would need to add project location to their list).

Cross-Project Teams

Aggregation

Planning Council/Cross Project Teams/Aggregation

Previously planned meeting didn't happen ... and after some email exchanges, nothing concrete seemed needed.


Tracking progress and compliance

Planning Council/Cross Project Teams/Tracking

Review readiness of current version on Portal

Comments? Ok to move forward? Does anyone prefer Plan B or Plan C?


ToDo Items

  • provide concrete instructions for (new) license-consistency requirement ... before M6? (John Arthorne).
  • coordinate community input for next year's name (Oliver says last year this was started "shortly before EclipseCon" ... so now's the time!.

Other business

  • Reminder: face-face EclipseCon meeting 2:00 to 3:00 (local time) on the Sunday before EclispeCon (3/21) in the Bayshore room of the Hyatt Santa Clara.
  • Followed by "joint meeting" with other councils.

Next Meeting

EclispeCon 3/21 2:00 PM Pacific Time, in the Bayshore room of the Hyatt Santa Clara
April 7, Wednesday, Noon Eastern Time.

Reference

Helios Simultaneous Release

Planning Council Members

Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO

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