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Planning Council/June 08 2016

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Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, June 8, 2016, at 1200 Noon Eastern
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Members and Attendees

PMC (and Strategic) Reps
Martin Lippert Cloud (PMC)
Chris Aniszczyk Technology (PMC)
Dani Megert Eclipse (PMC)
Sam Davis Mylyn (ALM) PMC
Brian Payton Datatools (PMC)
Doug Schaefer Tools (PMC)
Ian Bull Rt (PMC)
Chuck Bridgham WTP (PMC)
Wayne Beaton Eclipse Foundation (appointed)
David Williams (appointed Chair) Y
Strategic Reps
Marc Khouzam Ericsson
Alexander Nyssen Itemis
Nick Boldt (and Max) Redhat (Strategic Developer)
Remi Schnekenburger CEA List (Strategic Developer)
Cedric Brun OBEO (Strategic Developer)
Neil Hauge Oracle (Strategic Developer)
Stephan Merker SAP AG (Strategic Developer)
Markus Knauer EPP (appointed)
(has PMC rep; Dani Megert) IBM (Strategic Developer) X
Inactive
[no name] CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer) X
(was Gary Xue) Birt (PMC) X
(has/had PMC rep) Actuate (Strategic Developer) X
(was Rajeev Dayal) Google (Strategic Developer) X
Ed Merks Modeling (PMC) X
Adrian Mos (Marc Dutoo ) SOA (PMC) X

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected

Announcements

  • Welcome Marc Khouzam as the Ericsson representative to Planning Council.
  • Any others?

Previous meeting minutes

  • Review previous meeting minutes if you'd like. That is, review them before the meeting, but if questions or issues with previous minutes, this would be a good time to bring them up.

Neon maintenance

  • Dates (and RCs) for Neon.1 (etc.)


Oxygen Planning

  • There has been a lot of discussion about "giving up release name" and using "date" instead.

ACTION ITEM: Wayne to discuss with Ian on how best to get more data from our community of users.

old (ongoing) stuff

  • Release Policy vs. Release mechanics. This is being tracked in bug 483322.
In M6 we changed to have (nearly) all features to be "root features.
Now what? That is, can we "stop" adding "reference repositories" via feature p2.inf files?
  • "Rolling release" issue.
I have sometimes heard it suggested we allow more of a "continuous release". Is this something we should discuss? Should we have some long term planning for it? Such as, what would it take to accomplish that?
This could be planned with or without the "beta stream" mechanisms sometimes discussed.
Did not discuss much during this meeting, other than to note similarity to above issue.
  • Should the ability to update from yearly release to yearly release be a 'requirement'?
Impossible now, for Neon. Right? (for EPP Packages) Do we still need "streamless-URL" now? I am assuming "no".
What would this take? (Such as features are never "just removed" but are replaced or transitioned?)
Preferences, views, etc. have to "migrate" (if their ID changes).
What testing would projects have to do?
May become "defacto requirement" once bug 483786 is implemented.
For Neon we will not have a "streamless" URL, since "won't work" for upgrading to Neon for the EPP packages.

New Business

Next Meeting

  • August 3, 2016 - Regular First Wednesday Meeting -- We always skip July, since we "just shipped", and due to popular holidays.
  • Other announcements:

Reference

Neon Wiki page
Planning Council Members
Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO

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