Skip to main content
Jump to: navigation, search

Difference between revisions of "Planning Council/June 07 2017"

(Created page with "== Logistics == {| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" border="1" |- | Meeting Title: | '''Planning Council Conference Call''' |- | Date & Time: | Wednesday, June 07, 2017,...")
 
Line 26: Line 26:
 
|}
 
|}
  
== Members and Attendees ==
+
== Attendees ==
 +
*Wayne Beaton (EF)
 +
*Stephan (SAP)
 +
*Michael Barbero
 +
*Sam (Mylyn)
 +
*Carl (WTP)
 +
*Tom Watson (IBM)
 +
*Dani Megert (Eclipse)
 +
*Gary (BIRT)
 +
*Alex Kurtakov (Tools)
 +
*Melanie Bats (OBEO)
 +
=== Regrets ===
 +
*Alexander Nyssen
 +
*Martin Lippert
 +
*Adrian Mos
 +
== Agenda ==
 +
=== Oxygen ===
 +
Build seems to be in good shape.
  
=== Eclipse Foundation ===
+
{Bug|517935} Potential issues. Lucene 5 and 6. Not an issue with the release per se, but could manifest if somebody tries to add features (third party) that pull in Lucene 5.
*  Wayne Beaton, interim chair
+
   
* Frederic Gurr
+
Eclipse PMC discussed adopting new Jetty version very late. Eclipse PMC decided not to move to the latest. May adopt in point release. '''Recommendation''', please nobody update Jetty in the simultaneous release. Recommendation has been made to the community via cross-project-dev-issues.
*  Mickael Barbero
+
  
=== Strategic Members ===
+
Action Item (Wayne, Fred): put the Oxygen.n dates into the calendar (https://wiki.eclipse.org/Oxygen/Simultaneous_Release_Plan)
*  CA Technologies
+
*  CEA LIST
+
*  Codenvy, S.A. (Tyler Jewell)
+
*  Ericsson AB (<strike>Marc Khouzam</strike> Marc-Andre Laperle)
+
*  IBM (Thomas Watson)
+
*  itemis AG (Alexander Nyssen)
+
*  OBEO (Melanie Bats)
+
*  Oracle (Neil Hauge)
+
*  Red Hat, Inc. (Nick Boldt)
+
*  Robert Bosch GmbH
+
*  SAP SE (Stephan Merker)
+
  
=== PMC Representatives ===
+
=== Java 9 ===
*  Business Intelligence and Reporting Tools (BIRT) PMC (Gary Xue)
+
Dani: JPMS JSR was voted down. New vote coming up.
*  Data Tools Platform PMC (Brian Payton)
+
*  Eclipse Cloud Development PMC (Martin Lippert)
+
*  Eclipse Project PMC (Dani Megert)
+
*  IoT
+
*  LocationTech Technology
+
*  Eclipse Modeling Project PMC (Ed Merks)
+
*  Mylyn (Application Lifecycle Tools) PMC (Sam Davis)
+
*  PolarSys
+
*  Eclipse Runtime Project (RT) PMC (Ian Bull)
+
*  Eclipse Science
+
*  Service Oriented Architecture PMC (Adrian Mos)
+
*  Technology PMC (Chris Aniszczyk)
+
*  Tools Project PMC (Aleksandar Kurtakov)
+
*  Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project (WTP) PMC (Carl Anderson)
+
  
<small>Note: "Inactive" refers to [http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMembersWithTag.php?TagID=strategic Strategic Members] or PMCs we have not heard from for a while and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact Wayne Beaton if questions.</small>
+
Java 9 GA will likely move to Sept. 21 (Dani figures that date is 80% likely). If the second vote on JPMS is “no”, then the next delay will be longer (at least three months).
  
<small>Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.</small><br/><small>Y = Yes, attended</small><br/><small>N = No, did not</small><br/><small>R = regrets sent ahead of time</small><br/><small>D = delegated</small><br/><small>X = not expected</small>
+
Proposal to move Oxygen.1 to match the Java 9 release date.
  
== Previous meeting minutes ==
+
Current proposal to have a switch (on by default) to give warning when an attempt is made to access internal (or otherwise inaccessible) APIs.
  
* Review [[Planning_Council| previous meeting minutes]] if you'd like. That is, review them before the meeting, but if questions or issues with previous minutes, this would be a good time to bring them up.  
+
Eclipse JDT is focused on how the documentation is captured. The EG has filled many of the holes.
  
== Agenda ==
+
Oxygen.1 is early September (9th?). Should we move the Oxygen.1 release to match the Java 9 date?
* Java 9 Delayed
+
 
* Updating the Legal Documentation
+
'''Action''' (Wayne): Set up a call with stakeholders (including marketing team) to sort out what we should do? (see options below).
 +
 
 +
Can’t just drop in the Java 9 code and go. Could impact the Java 8 compiler. We need to test.
 +
 
 +
Proposal: On September 21. JDT produces a release candidate build that includes Java 9. Move the Oxygen.1 release to second week of October.
 +
 
 +
No answer today, but we need to have an answer on the next call.
  
== Notes ==
+
* Option #1: Move the Oxygen.1 date
 +
* Option #2: Add an extra release in October
 +
* Option #3: Roll out Java 9 with Oxygen.2 in December (with Marketplace-based rollout in the interim)

Revision as of 21:29, 27 July 2017

Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, June 07, 2017, at 1200 Noon Eastern
Dial in: (See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)

Phone Numbers: (Check Asterisk/Numbers for more or current phone numbers.)

For all phone lines: Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
  • Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-454-1403
  • North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992
  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) +49-692-2224-6059
  • France (local call anywhere in France) +33-17-070-8535
  • UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
  • Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
  • SIP clients:
call 710@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 35498.

Attendees

  • Wayne Beaton (EF)
  • Stephan (SAP)
  • Michael Barbero
  • Sam (Mylyn)
  • Carl (WTP)
  • Tom Watson (IBM)
  • Dani Megert (Eclipse)
  • Gary (BIRT)
  • Alex Kurtakov (Tools)
  • Melanie Bats (OBEO)

Regrets

  • Alexander Nyssen
  • Martin Lippert
  • Adrian Mos

Agenda

Oxygen

Build seems to be in good shape.

{Bug|517935} Potential issues. Lucene 5 and 6. Not an issue with the release per se, but could manifest if somebody tries to add features (third party) that pull in Lucene 5.

Eclipse PMC discussed adopting new Jetty version very late. Eclipse PMC decided not to move to the latest. May adopt in point release. Recommendation, please nobody update Jetty in the simultaneous release. Recommendation has been made to the community via cross-project-dev-issues.

Action Item (Wayne, Fred): put the Oxygen.n dates into the calendar (https://wiki.eclipse.org/Oxygen/Simultaneous_Release_Plan)

Java 9

Dani: JPMS JSR was voted down. New vote coming up.

Java 9 GA will likely move to Sept. 21 (Dani figures that date is 80% likely). If the second vote on JPMS is “no”, then the next delay will be longer (at least three months).

Proposal to move Oxygen.1 to match the Java 9 release date.

Current proposal to have a switch (on by default) to give warning when an attempt is made to access internal (or otherwise inaccessible) APIs.

Eclipse JDT is focused on how the documentation is captured. The EG has filled many of the holes.

Oxygen.1 is early September (9th?). Should we move the Oxygen.1 release to match the Java 9 date?

Action (Wayne): Set up a call with stakeholders (including marketing team) to sort out what we should do? (see options below).

Can’t just drop in the Java 9 code and go. Could impact the Java 8 compiler. We need to test.

Proposal: On September 21. JDT produces a release candidate build that includes Java 9. Move the Oxygen.1 release to second week of October.

No answer today, but we need to have an answer on the next call.

  • Option #1: Move the Oxygen.1 date
  • Option #2: Add an extra release in October
  • Option #3: Roll out Java 9 with Oxygen.2 in December (with Marketplace-based rollout in the interim)

Back to the top