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== Start annual debrief ==
Feel free to add things to the page before the meeting, if that would facilitate dicussion. We will finish in September if needed.
Be sure to read last years:
== Other Business ==
== Other Business ==

Revision as of 14:12, 30 July 2012


Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, August 01, 2012, at 1200 Eastern
Dial in: NOTE CHANGE: First meeting to use Asterisk service:

Phone Numbers:

  • Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-288-9131
  • North America (toll free) 1-877-253-0615
  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059
  • France (local call anywhere in France) 33-17-070-8535
  • UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
  • SIP clients:
call 710@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 35498.

Members and Attendees

PMC (and Strategic) Reps
Chris Aniszczyk Technology (PMC)
John Arthorne Eclipse (PMC)
Mik Kersten Mylyn (ALM) PMC
Brian Payton Datatools (PMC)
Doug Schaefer Tools (PMC)
Adrian Mos SOA (PMC)
Ed Merks Modeling (PMC)
 ?? Rt (PMC)
David Williams WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair)
Gary Xue Birt (PMC)
Wayne Beaton Eclipse Foundation (appointed)
Strategic Reps
Cedric Brun OBEO (Strategic Developer)
Stefan Daume Cloudsmith Inc.(Strategic Developer)
Neil Hauge Oracle (Strategic Developer)
Kaloyan Raev SAP AG (Strategic Developer)
Igor Fedorenko Sonatype (Strategic Developer)
Markus Knauer Innoopract (Strategic Developer)
Christian Kurzke Motorola (Strategic Developer)
Achim Loerke BREDEX (Strategic Developer)
(PMC rep) Actuate (Strategic Developer) X
(PMC rep) IBM (Strategic Developer) X
[no name] CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer) X

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected


  • Welcome Ian Bull as new Rt PMC representative
  • Change in strategic membership/representatives? Motorola and Cloudsmith no longer strategic members. Talend is.

Juno SR1

  •  ?
  • any thoughts on "non greedy" publishers? (Where did we go wrong?! :) More seriously, Jetty and ECF have made recent changes to be "non-greedy" which I think is good but might cause some churn. dw to send out note to cross-project list this afternoon.
  • On the topic of "non participating project dependencies"
We have discussed and decided this recently: See Planning_Council/March_07_2012#What_to_do_about_Papyrus_.28and_non_released_XWT_dependency.29 and bug 370974. The conclusion was:

A project can not be in the Sim. Release, or Released at all, if they include things that are unreleased from other projects (and this is true of any release, not just Sim. Release).

A project can include releases from other Eclipse projects, even if that other project is itself not part of the Simultaneous Release. This still requires the "other project's release" meets all the requirements for Release and Sim. Release ... signed jars, about.html file, etc. This is conceptually just like including a third party package from Orbit ... the original authors do not "participate" in the Release, but the bundles meet all the release requirements.

dw to send note clarifying policy. For future reference: here is the FAQ about our policies: See SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_FAQ#Policy_FAQs


Start annual debrief


Feel free to add things to the page before the meeting, if that would facilitate dicussion. We will finish in September if needed.

Be sure to read last years: Planning_Council/Indi_retrospective

Other Business


Next Meeting

  • September 5, 2012 (our regular "first Wednesday" meeting, at Noon Eastern).
Conclude (if needed) our yearly "debrief" on what went well, what could be better.
Plan for Kepler


Kepler Wiki page
Juno Wiki page
Planning Council/Indigo retrospective
Planning Council Members
Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO