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== Attendance ==
 
== Attendance ==
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Alex, Dani, Wayne, Fred, Mélanie, Thomas, Nitin
  
 
== Regrets ==
 
== Regrets ==
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* Next release update
 
* Next release update
 
* June & September schedules
 
* June & September schedules
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* Wiki updates
  
 
== Actions follow-up ==
 
== Actions follow-up ==
  
 
:* Dani : will send an email to get updates about marketing activities for 2019-03.
 
:* Dani : will send an email to get updates about marketing activities for 2019-03.
:: '''DONE'''
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:: '''DONE''' Sopot is taking care of that with the foundation.
 
:* All : Please review the June Plan wiki page and the Google calendar dates for 2019-09.  
 
:* All : Please review the June Plan wiki page and the Google calendar dates for 2019-09.  
 
:: '''DONE''' Mélanie will send an email to ask everyone to approve the schedule.
 
:: '''DONE''' Mélanie will send an email to ask everyone to approve the schedule.
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:: '''DONE'''
 
:: '''DONE'''
 
:* All : Review the updates done by Wayne on the participation process.
 
:* All : Review the updates done by Wayne on the participation process.
:: '''TODO'''
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:: '''DONE'''
  
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
  
 
=== Next release update ===
 
=== Next release update ===
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Platform ready to release RC2. Orbit URL was not ready, so a rebuild will be needed but everything is ok.
  
 
=== June & September schedules ===
 
=== June & September schedules ===
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* [https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:SimRel-2019-06 2019-06]
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* [https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:SimRel-2019-09 2019-09]
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* For details see  the Google calendar :
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https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=gchs7nm4nvpm837469ddj9tjlk@group.calendar.google.com&dates=20181001%2F20181231&hl=en&mode=AGENDA
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=== Wiki updates===
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Mélanie has merged the SimRel FAQs [https://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_FAQ Simultaneous_Release_FAQ] & [https://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Cycle_FAQ Simultaneous_Release_Cycle_FAQ] to only one : https://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Cycle_FAQ
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Auto-redirection was done.
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Mélanie has updated to remove the "yearly" notion: https://wiki.eclipse.org/Simultaneous_Release_Roles#Simultaneous_Release_Roles
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If you detect other wiki pages that should be updated, send an email to Mélanie.
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=== Track inactive projects ===
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Wayne raises the fact that a handfull of projects are not paying attention and does not meet the requirements. The idea is that projects should update their aggrcon file to declare that they are in the SimRel. If they do not modify their aggrcon, they will be out. Today, Wayne is taking care of chasing these different projects, pushing a gerrit request to remove the aggrcon file of these projects and then following the thread. It is time consuming for him.
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It was proposed to automatically declare the project as out if the aggr file was not touch. That is not so simple as removing a project could have some important consequences for other projects depending on it. There is a communication aspect that should be taken into consideration.
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It was also proposed to have a clear process to declare the project intent to be in. It already existed in the past and it was not so successful. The idea is to trying to identify who is not taking care instead of punishing everyone with a new process.
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Fred proposed to assist Wayne on the aggcon file tracking.
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Another possibility is to turn off the build a week before removing them officially, in order to detect the consequences.
  
 
=== Actions ===
 
=== Actions ===
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* Need a chair for the next call on April 3rd, Mélanie will not be able to organize/join : Martin Lippert proposed to take care of the call. Thanks again Martin!
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* Mélanie will prepare the plan for the 2019-09 release.
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* All : Review the dates for the 2019-06 & 2019-09 and approve by mail on the mailing list.

Latest revision as of 12:56, 6 March 2019

Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, March 6, 2019, at 11:00 EST
Dial in: Topic: Planning Council Meeting

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Members

Planning Council Chair: Melanie Bats

Eclipse Foundation

  • Wayne Beaton
  • Frederic Gurr
  • Mikael Barbero

Strategic Members

  • CA Technologies
  • CEA LIST
  • Fujitsu Limited
  • IBM (Thomas Watson)
  • Obeo (Melanie Bats)
  • Oracle (Neil Hauge)
  • Payara Services Ltd.
  • Red Hat, Inc. (Nick Boldt)
  • Robert Bosch GmbH
  • SAP SE (Stephan Merker)
  • Tomitribe

PMC Representatives

  • Eclipse Cloud Development PMC (Martin Lippert)
  • Eclipse Project PMC (Dani Megert)
  • Eclipse Enterprise for Java PMC
  • IoT PMC
  • Eclipse Modeling Project PMC (Ed Merks)
  • Mylyn (Application Lifecycle Tools) PMC (Sam Davis)
  • PolarSys PMC
  • Eclipse Runtime Project (RT) PMC
  • Eclipse Science PMC
  • Service Oriented Architecture PMC (Adrian Mos)
  • Eclipse Technology PMC (Gunnar Wagenknecht)
  • Tools Project PMC (Alexander Kurtakov)
  • Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project (WTP) PMC (Nitin Dahyabhai)

Appointed Members

  • Appointed (Mikael Barbero)
  • Appointed (Markus Knauer)
  • Appointed (Mike Milinkovich)
  • Appointed (Sopot Cela)
  • Appointed (Wayne Beaton)

Previous meeting minutes

  • Review previous meeting minutes if you'd like. That is, review them before the meeting, but if questions or issues with previous minutes, this would be a good time to bring them up.

https://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/2019-02-06

Attendance

Alex, Dani, Wayne, Fred, Mélanie, Thomas, Nitin

Regrets

Nick

Agenda

  • Actions follow-up
  • Next release update
  • June & September schedules
  • Wiki updates

Actions follow-up

  • Dani : will send an email to get updates about marketing activities for 2019-03.
DONE Sopot is taking care of that with the foundation.
  • All : Please review the June Plan wiki page and the Google calendar dates for 2019-09.
DONE Mélanie will send an email to ask everyone to approve the schedule.
TODO Review by all
All : Review SimRel-2019-09 wiki page
DONE by Dani
Mélanie prepare the SimRel-2019-09 wiki page
DONE
  • All : Review the updates done by Wayne on the participation process.
DONE

Notes

Next release update

Platform ready to release RC2. Orbit URL was not ready, so a rebuild will be needed but everything is ok.

June & September schedules

  • For details see the Google calendar :

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=gchs7nm4nvpm837469ddj9tjlk@group.calendar.google.com&dates=20181001%2F20181231&hl=en&mode=AGENDA

Wiki updates

Mélanie has merged the SimRel FAQs Simultaneous_Release_FAQ & Simultaneous_Release_Cycle_FAQ to only one : https://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Cycle_FAQ Auto-redirection was done.

Mélanie has updated to remove the "yearly" notion: https://wiki.eclipse.org/Simultaneous_Release_Roles#Simultaneous_Release_Roles

If you detect other wiki pages that should be updated, send an email to Mélanie.

Track inactive projects

Wayne raises the fact that a handfull of projects are not paying attention and does not meet the requirements. The idea is that projects should update their aggrcon file to declare that they are in the SimRel. If they do not modify their aggrcon, they will be out. Today, Wayne is taking care of chasing these different projects, pushing a gerrit request to remove the aggrcon file of these projects and then following the thread. It is time consuming for him. It was proposed to automatically declare the project as out if the aggr file was not touch. That is not so simple as removing a project could have some important consequences for other projects depending on it. There is a communication aspect that should be taken into consideration. It was also proposed to have a clear process to declare the project intent to be in. It already existed in the past and it was not so successful. The idea is to trying to identify who is not taking care instead of punishing everyone with a new process. Fred proposed to assist Wayne on the aggcon file tracking. Another possibility is to turn off the build a week before removing them officially, in order to detect the consequences.

Actions

  • Need a chair for the next call on April 3rd, Mélanie will not be able to organize/join : Martin Lippert proposed to take care of the call. Thanks again Martin!
  • Mélanie will prepare the plan for the 2019-09 release.
  • All : Review the dates for the 2019-06 & 2019-09 and approve by mail on the mailing list.

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