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- 1 What is the Orion project?
- 2 What are the benefits of bringing the development infrastructure to the web?
- 3 What is the current status of the project?
- 4 What is Orion Hub?
- 5 Can Orion be used for real work?
- 6 A web-based IDE was originally announced as part of the e4 effort. How do these early announcements relate to what is currently available in the Orion codebase?
- 7 Which technologies are running behind the scenes of the Orion project?
- 8 What is the relationship between Orion and OSLC?
- 9 What is the relationship between Orion and the Rich Ajax Platform (RAP)?
- 10 Orion is not based on the old Eclipse codebase, so how does the Orion code relate to the “old” Eclipse platform code and the other existing Eclipse projects?
- 11 Is Orion limited to providing a development infrastructure, or is it conceivable to use the Orion code for other purposes, in a similar way the Eclipse code was used for RCP and Runtime Projects?
- 12 What are the next steps for Orion?
What is the Orion project?
Orion is an open source project under the Eclipse top-level project. The project is currently in the Incubation phase. See the original project proposal for details on the scope and goals of the project.
What are the benefits of bringing the development infrastructure to the web?
More and more software and infrastructure is moving to the web and adopting web technologies. The same reasons apply to software development tooling:
- Zero install on the client
- Lower total cost of ownership
- Scalable computing power
- Simple connectivity -- links
- Trivial update mechanism (i.e. refresh the page)
- Powerful rendering engine -- browsers
- Very large and active community
What is the current status of the project?
The current code base has been developed by a handful of developers over a few months. Orion has a fast and scalable code editor that runs on all major desktop browsers. There is a way to navigate files and folders and to search, and work has begun to integrate with Git. For the debugger part, the plan is to integrate well with Firebug and/or WebKit inspector.
What is Orion Hub?
http://orionhub.org is a public beta server of Orion. It is available to the general public for the purpose of evaluating and playing with a stable Orion install. Everyone can request an account by visiting http://eclipse.org/orion. Note that this is a beta install, and there is no guarantee that data stored on this server will be persisted. The Eclipse Foundation reserves the right to delete any and all data from the server. If you are trying it out, you should regularly push your changes to a remote Git repository such as Git Hub, copy your files to another server via SFTP, or export a Zip file with your changes.
Can Orion be used for real work?
Yes, although the available functionality is still quite limited. As of the June 2011 release, Orion has at least the following major limitations:
- There is no support for version control systems other than Git, and the Git support does not yet encompass all the functionality available in eGit or Git command line tools.
- No language refactoring tools, or global search and replace, makes large scale code changes difficult
A web-based IDE was originally announced as part of the e4 effort. How do these early announcements relate to what is currently available in the Orion codebase?
At EclipseCon 2008, almost three years ago, we demoed a prototype of a web-based Eclipse. We decided back then that we were too early and did not continue working on the prototype. The Orion code base is a completely new implementation, focused on web technologies and principles. The idea is to make the web itself the development environment, instead of trying to bring existing desktop IDE concepts to the browser.
Which technologies are running behind the scenes of the Orion project?
What is the relationship between Orion and OSLC?
None today. One of the stated objectives of the OSLC community is creating open, public descriptions of resources and interfaces for sharing the things development teams rely on. As Orion grows and evolves we're going to need to define similar integration points and policies. The obvious place for this relationship is in Orion's access and update of life-cycle artifacts and we anticipate both working with and adopting OSLC specifications for these purposes.
What is the relationship between Orion and the Rich Ajax Platform (RAP)?
Orion does not use the Rich Ajax Platform (RAP). Quoted from the RAP project homepage, "the Rich Ajax Platform lets you build rich, Ajax-enabled Web applications by using the Eclipse development model, plug-ins with the well known Eclipse workbench extension points and a widget toolkit with SWT API. Existing RCP applications can be run as Web applications with only minor changes." Orion is a completely new codebase and has no dependencies on the traditional Eclipse development model with its plug-ins, extension points, Java API, or SWT widget toolkit.
Orion is not based on the old Eclipse codebase, so how does the Orion code relate to the “old” Eclipse platform code and the other existing Eclipse projects?
We are using code from the Eclipse Runtime project for our server. On the client side, we are working on UI components that are fully web based. To the extent possible, we want to make it possible to use these web UI components in the existing desktop Eclipse, for example as views or editors. But the codebases will be separate. We are only starting with Orion, and are at a very early stage. The desktop Eclipse IDE is not going to go away, and is going to be actively developed and maintained for many years to come.
Is Orion limited to providing a development infrastructure, or is it conceivable to use the Orion code for other purposes, in a similar way the Eclipse code was used for RCP and Runtime Projects?
This is definitely conceivable, but not our current focus. We will definitely be thinking about this constantly as we are developing Orion further.
What are the next steps for Orion?
We are currently preparing a proposal to create a formal Orion project at Eclipse. In parallel, we will be improving the current code base based on our own needs, since we are already self-hosting — i.e. using Orion itself to work on the client side of Orion.
We've also made a hosted version of Orion available at orionhub.org so that those who would like to try it can do so with minimal effort.