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* Call convened at [http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=06&day=26&year=2007&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=188 1000 EDT]
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* Previous Meeting: [[Orbit Minutes 070612]]

== Attendees ==
* Christian Damus
* Joel Cayne
* Jeff McAffer
* Pascal Rapicault
* DJ Houghton
* Chris Aniszczyk 
* David Williams

== Discussion ==

===IP Log info===
An IP Log is now generated with each build and is available from the download page. 
* The file is far from complete, please update with info for the bundles that you own. 

===Tests===
We have also added a basic test suite which verifies the layout of bundles.
* some tests are currently fail because their manifest files aren't the right casing
* people need to change manifest casing
* <font color="blue">Action: DJ to enter bug against PDE to validate the casing. (Done - [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=194650 bug 194650]) </font>
* <font color="red">Action: DJ to gather bundles which are failing and will send note to mailing list. </font>
* We need to see if these are tested on Linux.


===New Bundles===
Now that we have declared a "recommended" build, is it ok to start releasing new bundles to Orbit?
* remove for this week
* add nightly builds? requires separate streams
* R-builds are really a packaging problem?
* build it from a status file?
* <font color="blue">Action: Chris to remove 2 new bundles from feature/map file until next week. (Done)</font>

===Conf Calls===
The Eclipse Foundation has a new infrastructure for conference calls. We should start using it for Orbit calls.
* <font color="red">Action: Jeff to co-ordinate and send note with new info.</font>

===Bundle downloads===
Do we want to try and make the GET URLs generated by Orbit be build-independent? That is, not have the build id in it so consumers don't always have to update their map files if there is a new Orbit build and their bundle didn't change?
* <font color="red">Action: DJ to write wiki describing problems.</font>

===Signing Bundles===
There are some problems with signed bundles because not all teams sign. (and Orbit doesn't)
* e.g. platform signs but wtp doesn't sign - same bundle, same qualifier
* signing is not a requirement for Europa
* orbit doesn't sign but always said we should
* probably a couple days or a weeks worth of work to modify build scripts
* <font color="blue">Action: David to send a note to cross-project warning people of potential problems. (Done)</font>
* only happens when you have people unzipping on top of a signed version

===R-builds===
Discussions surrounding Orbit R-Builds.
* when is the next r-build?
* how do we plan for this?
* same as regular project?
* branch releng project to europa_maintenance
* need to tag the map files for each build
* do we really need branches?
* create new map files? had because its based on what people consume
* how about new features? set1 is for europa, something new for maintenance, etc.
* thought from Pascal: have the build produce multiple map files, one for each consumer based on the info in the ip log file

==Next Meeting==
[http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=07&day=24&year=2007&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=188 July 24, 2007 at 1000 EDT], Agenda: [[Orbit Minutes 070724]]

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