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The Machine-to-Machine Industry Working Group is holding weekly calls on Tuesday at 9amET.<br>Participation to these calls is restricted to members of the IWG, but the minutes are public.  
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The Internet of Things Industry Working Group is holding bi-weekly calls on Wednesdays, at 12pm ET.<br>
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Participation to these calls is restricted to members of the IWG, but the minutes are public. We alternate between marketing-focused calls (upcoming events coordination, community outreach, etc.), and technical calls mostly targeting project leads, to synchronize cross-project activities.
  
The meetings are held via teleconference. The regular call-in numbers are shown below (if possible, please used caller paid numbers). There are a few local / toll-free dial in numbers, but you may want to setup a SIP client on your computer if possible.
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The meetings are held via teleconference. The regular call-in numbers are shown below (if possible, please used caller paid numbers). There are a few local / toll-free dial in numbers, but you may want to setup a [https://wiki.eclipse.org/Asterisk#SIP SIP client] on your computer if possible.
  
* Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-454-1403
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* North America 1-866-569-4992
* North America (toll free) 1-877-369-7806
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* Germany 49-692-2224-6059
* Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059
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* France 33-(0)-17-070-8535
* France (local call anywhere in France) 33-17-070-8535
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* UK 0800-033-7806
* UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
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* Switzerland 41-44-580-2115
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* Sweden 46-85-063-8386
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* Italy 003-902-3604-8268
  
 
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SIP clients can call 713@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 68764.
 
SIP clients can call 713@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 68764.
  
= Apr 23, 2013 =
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= June 3, 2015 (Marketing call) =  
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== Participants ==
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* Jens Reimann
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* Ian Skerrett
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* Benjamin Cabé
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* Kai Kreuzer
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* Virgil Dodson
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* James Kirkland (and XX), Red Hat
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* Ian Craggs
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* Alois Zoitl
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* Dave Woodard
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== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
  
* Project updates
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* Introduction of new members
** Koneki
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* IoT Events
** Mihini
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** M2M Summit, JavaOne, IoT Day at EclipseCon Europe and potential Eclipse IoT event in Berlin
** Paho
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** A complete list of IoT events is available at https://wiki.eclipse.org/IoT/M2MIWG/Marketing-Programs#IoT_Events_in_2015
* m2m.eclipse.org permanent demo
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* Update of Virtual IoT Meetup
* Eclipsecon France meeting
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* IoT Case Studies: I'd like to start collecting case studies on how companies are using Eclipse IoT technology.
* Upcoming events
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* Other topics?
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== Introduction of new members ==
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* James and XX from Red Hat introduced themselves.
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* Other new members who recently joined include Azul Systems and Verisign.
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== IoT Events ==
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* We are looking at having an Eclipse booth at M2M Summit and share the cost between Eclipse IoT members
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* IoT World Congress in Barcelona (same event organizer as Mobile World Congress)
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** Call for papers is out
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* IoT Day at EclipseCon Europe, similar to what we did at EclipseCon 2015
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* Industry of Things in Berlin
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** Can we do an Eclipse IoT Day just before or after this show?
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== Virtual IoT ==
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* 350 members and counting
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* Hundreds of replays of the webinars on YouTube
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* Alois is interested to present 4DIAC at the end of September. Benjamin will be in touch to put the presentation in the schedule.
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== IoT Case Studies ==
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* Ian would like to start harvesting case studies and success stories w/ the different projects and technologies of Eclipse IoT
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* Ian will start reaching out to companies and put together a template of the information needed for documenting the case study
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== GitHub issues ==
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* Projects have to use Bugzilla. The reason is Eclipse Fdn does not want to use vendor-specific solution (if a vendor goes away, we have an issue).
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* Ian suggests that PMC leaders Jens and Kai take the issue to the Board level via the Committer Reps
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= May 20, 2015 (Project leads call) =
  
 
== Participants ==
 
== Participants ==
  
* Peter Niblett
 
 
* Benjamin Cabé
 
* Benjamin Cabé
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* Ian Craggs
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* Jens Reimann
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* Kai Kreuzer
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* Marc Mültin
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* Virgil Dodson
 
* Ian Skerrett
 
* Ian Skerrett
* Laurent Barthélémy
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* Dave Woodard
* Cuero Bugot
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* Thomas Schuetz
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* Mats Samuelsson
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* Hilary Thomasson
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* Marco Carrer
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== eTrice introduction ==
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== Agenda ==
  
* Thomas, project lead of Eclipse eTrice
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* Presentation of the new [https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/rise-v2g RiseV2G] IoT Project
* The focus of eTrice is to provide toolset for modeling and code generation for embedded systems
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* IoT Commons, in particular current status regarding Bluetooth LE and USB
* Based on ROOM language, a DSL from telecom industry, that can also be used for machine control
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* Update on Open Source IoT server discussions
* Interest in finding new applications, what would be useful for ppl in the M2M area to use eTrice as a tool
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* LwM2M over MQTT: next steps
* Automotive and machine controls
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* Lots of people interested in using eTrice for various domains: banking, Machine-to-Machine
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* eTrice is good at programming distributing applications
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== Project updates ==
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== RiseV2G ==
  
=== Paho update ===
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* This project aims to implement communication between Electric Vehicals (EVs) and charging stations
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** Based on IEC 15118 standard
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* Quite a community already: car manufacturers, utility, ...
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* Presented at two major international conferences over the last year
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* The protocol is client/server. RiseV2G aims at being integrated in charging stations (server) and the car is the client
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* Implementation is in Java
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* The protocol can be used for other smartgrid usecases like solar panels
  
* Java: creation of a 0.2 release candidate, update of the Eclipse view
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* Code will be hosted on GitHub
* Bug triaging
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* New Python MQTT client contributed
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* Objective-C still under IP review
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* JS client pending
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=== Koneki update ===
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* Marc indicates that there could be interesting collaboration opportunities with Eclipse SmartHome.
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** Kai indicates there is already a new binding in Eclipse SmartHome for Charging Stations (KeyBar(?))
  
* 1.0 M1 released last week: adds support for Lua 5.2, LuaJIT
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== IoT Commons ==
* New and Noteworthy available [[http://wiki.eclipse.org/Koneki/LDT/User_Area/New_Noteworthies/New_Noteworthy_1.0|here]]
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=== Mihini update ===
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* Our goal should will be to work on providing open source implementations of existing APIs (see eg. javax.comm, javax.usb, OSGi Alliance RFCs)
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* If we don't have the API (e.g. Modbus): what should we do?
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* Benjamin will provide a metadata "template" to make it easier to document the dependencies.
  
* Problems with the IP of some libraries (security)
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== IoT Server ==
* Adding GPIO APIs
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== m2m.eclipse.org permanent demo ==
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* Working group members are welcome to join the discussions regarding [[IoT/IoTServerPlatform]]
  
* Sierra team working on setting up hardware and web UI for a 24/7 greenhouse demo
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== LwM2M over MQTT ==
* Same greenhouse should be usable for any server-side platform
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* Axeda interested in having the demo compatible with its platform
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* Thomas: eTrice could be used for simulating the system control, visualizing the changing data
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== EclipseCon France ==
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* Next steps: discussing proper integration of the work being done at IBM India in Leshan
  
* Meeting of the IWG the day before, June 4th
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= Mar 25, 2015 (Project leads call) =
  
== Upcoming Events ==
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== Participants ==
  
* M2M World Congress: Ian and Benjamin to speak. Should Eclipse and partner have a booth
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* Benjamin Cabé
* Ian, Mike Milinkovich and Peter will talk in Atlanta, on May 7th, about OASIS MQTT initiative, M2M...
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* Ian Craggs
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* Julien Vermillard
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* Luca Dazi
  
== Kepler democamps ==
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== Agenda ==
  
* June: democamp and hackathons all around the world
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* Update on the IoT Challenge. Deadline was yesterday and Benjamin will update on the submitted solution and relationship with Eclipse IoT projects.
* Would be great to have people volunteering for demoing Eclipse M2M technologies :)
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* IP and process issues. Quick roundtable on any outstanding CQs or process issues that projects may have.
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* LwM2M over MQTT update.
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== IoT Challenge ==
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* The final entries have been submitted. See http://openiotchallenge.tumblr.com/
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* The results will be announced shortly
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* Many great submissions around MQTT, Kura, MQTT-SN, LwM2M so all the project leads are encouraged to have a look and engage with the participants
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== IP and Process Issues ==
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* Benjamin asks the project leads attending the call if they have process topics to discuss.
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The following topics were discussed during the call:
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* Julien is inquiring about the time it takes to do a formal release, and asks about how long it takes to get an IP log approved, and a release approved.
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** If the project leadership has been managing its contribution properly, and granted that there are no problematic CQs, the IP log is approved in less than a week
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** Once the IP log is approved, at the project review can be scheduled and the review period cannot be less than a week.
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** This [[Development_Resources/HOWTO/Release_Cycle#Release_Review|wiki page and associated diagram]] summarizes very well the workflow.
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** For the record, a project may decide to submit an IP log for approval even when a release isn't planned. This is useful whenever some major contributions or 3rd party libraries are added to the codebase, and in general to avoid rushing a few days before a release.
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* Ian Craggs rises the point of some projects he's been trying to recruit as Paho components, and who are currently hosted on Github. One of the reasons these projects wouldn't move to Eclipse was the fact they would lose Github issues and a very "low barrier" for bugs/feature requests to be reported.
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** Julien highlights that the current situation is pretty messy: some Eclipse projects recently created have Github issues enabled, or have had GH issues disabled by Eclipse webmaster and lost the existing issues that people already opened.
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** Someone has reminded that GH pull requests are very similar to GH issues, and are allowed.
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** If there is a '''legal''' reason to not allow Github issues, the projects would like to know. If there is a technical reason, it seems {{bug|442828|7}} would be a viable answer. In general, the project leaders all expressed that they don't have a clear position from EMO that they can use to explain to their community why GH issues aren't allowed.
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** Ian Craggs notes that a solution to the problem might be to consider Github issues with different levels of contribution, and that in several cases, an issue is just opened as a way to engage the discussion. If a GH issue ends up being an actual contribution, the project leadership could "clone" the conversation on Bugzilla, if that is needed for a legal reason.
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* Still on the topics of Github development, it is note that some projects avec their GitHub wiki enabled.
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** Is this a bug? Or, again, what is EMO's official position?
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* Both Ian and Julien express concerns about libraries coming from the NodeJS or Javascript ecosystem who prove difficult to be cleared, IP-wise (libuv for Mosquitto, Bootstrap or Angular libraries for Leshan...)
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** Julien wonders why Eclipse projects can't use libraries that do not have proper CLAs, but seem to be used widely. "Why is everybody using NodeJS and NodeJS libraries if there is a risk?"
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** Benjamin will reach out to the Orion project leadership to understand better how they work with 3rd party JS dependencies
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== LwM2M over MQTT ==
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* A meeting is scheduled for April 2, to discuss the current prototype implemented by IBM India during the Open IoT Challenge, and prepare next steps.
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* [[IoT/LwM2M_MQTT_Binding/Meeting_minutes|Wiki page]]
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= Feb 12, 2015 (Marketing call) =
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== Participants ==
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* Jens
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* Ian Skerrett
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* Benjamin
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* Dave Woodard
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* Kai Kreuzer
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* Mahdi Ben Alaya
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* Virgil Dodson
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* Ian Craggs
  
= Apr 9, 2013 =
 
  
 
== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
  
* Partners Recruitment* Webinars
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- IoT Challenge results to date
* EclipseCon France (CFP, IWG meetings)
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- IoT Developer Survey - review questions in attached document
* Weekly calls format
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- Web site updates
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- EclipseCon and IoT Day update
  
== Attendees  ==
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== IoT Challenge ==
* Ian Skerrett, Eclipse Fdn
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* Benjamin Cabé, Sierra Wireless,
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* Didier Lahay, Sierra Wireless,
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* Hilary Tomasson, Eurotech
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* Peter Niblett, IBM
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* Andy Piper, CloudFoundry
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* Participants' projects are highlighted on http://openiotchallenge.tumblr.com
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* Four projects are blogging actively and showing interesting results. Several "tips and tricks" and "tutorials" are being created as part of the blogging activity of the participants. Eclipse IoT projects should make sure to relay those in their own mailing lists, wikis, etc.
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* There are several solutions that are using Kura, Leshan, and MQTT/MQTT-SN
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* Deadline for final submissions will be March 23rd (initially Feb 27)
  
== Partners recruitment ==
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== IoT Developer Survey ==
  
* End-to-end demo. Need to communicate about it
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* The survey should help build awareness about Eclipse IoT by writing a report
* #iot on twitter
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* We probably don't want more than 20 questions
* Telefonica has just launched a cloud? m2m-telefonica
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* Question 10 on protocols should probably be split in two sections: messaging protocols and industrial protocols
* Andy reached out to them on Twitter
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* "Is open source an important factor for your IoT solution?" or "What's your organization's view on OSS: never use it, considering using it, ..."
  
* Add to the Eclipse portal
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== Web site updates ==
* Greenhouse is nice to show at events but maybe not really exciting from an industry perspective (oil, power plant, … could be more appropriate)
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* Companies should be able to take the embedded gateway source code and connect it to their cloud
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== Events to target in Q3 ==
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* Benjamin and Ian are working on revamping the iot.eclipse.org website since it's start to show its age and is not adapted anymore to the numbers of projects and technologies we have
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* There should be showable results in the next couple weeks.
  
* M2M World Congress in Nice - end september
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== IoT Day ==
** they are still looking for content
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* 3-5000EUR to share a booth
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* JavaOne
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** same week at M2M World Congress
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** Ian to send more details
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* Connected World - June
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** Eurotech is attending
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* M2M Evolution - part of the ITExpo (US) - end of August
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** Eurotech is attending
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* M2M Summit - Dusseldorf - early october
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* One M2M
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* The help of the Eclipse IoT members to recruit participants is greatly appreciated :)
* JAX
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== Webinars ==
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= Jan 28, 2015 (Project leads call) =
  
* Mihini
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== Agenda ==
* M3DA
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* Paho/MQTT: Hilary to check if Eurotech could do another webinar
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* Update of project release plans.
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* GPG signing update. Benjamin will provide an update on setting up GPG signing for IoT * projects.
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* LWM2M over MQTT – Update on the initial discussions regarding running LwM2M over MQTT https://wiki.eclipse.org/IoT/LwM2M_MQTT_Binding
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* Update on the IoT Challenge
  
  
== F2F meeting at EclipseCon France ==
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== Attendees ==
  
* 4th of June in the afternoon
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* Benjamin
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* Jens
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* Michael Bradley
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* Kai K
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* Mahdi
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* Ian Craggs
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* Marco
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* Virgil
  
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== Update of project release plans ==
  
== Meeting are now moved to bi-weekly ==
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* Paho
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** Paho 1.1 will include:
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*** .Net and WinRT by Paolo Patierno
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*** Formal release of the embedded client
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*** Formal release of the Android service
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*** Service update of all the other clients
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** Next version will be Paho 1.2
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*** to be released in Mars
  
* Benjamin will send an updated invitation
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* SmartHome
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** No release in preparation (there was a release announced in Dec. but it has been withdrawn)
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** Ongoing work on REST API
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*** Automated and interactive documentation of the REST API using Swagger
  
= Apr 2, 2013 =
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* SCADA
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** 0.2 release is out
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*** built on Monday, ongoing testing. To be announced tomorrow.
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*** inclusion of IEC standards is finally a GO!
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** next version will be 0.3
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*** more functionality back-ported from OpenSCADA
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*** deprecate old functionality
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*** to be released in ~6 months
  
== Agenda ==
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* Kura
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** Kura released just before Christmas a 1.1
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*** support for openJDK Device I/O API
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*** support for USB HID
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*** service release of the network management bits
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*** upgrade to Paho 1.1
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** Moving forward, a 1.1.1 is planned for February
  
* EclipseCon feedback (M2M sessions, F2F meeting)
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* Mahdi
* M3DA/MQTT convergence
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** OM2M first release planned for March
* EclipseCon France
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*** CoAP and HTTP bindings
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*** better SQL/database abstraction
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*** backend interface
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** After that (Sept), a bridge to OneM2M will be added + a GUI
  
== Attendees  ==
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== Project release schedule ==
*Hilary Tomasson, Eurotech
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*Benjamin Cabé, Sierra Wireless
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== Misc. ==
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* Eclipse release train: every project joins and tools+plugins are synchronized
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* However for IoT we don't really have one single set of tools, but it would be great to provide a better view (calendar?) of what is in the pipe for the projects
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** PMI improvement?
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** Jens suggests that this is a manual web page on iot.eclipse.org, or it could use the PMI API
  
Call was very short since most people didn't show up (Easter holiday)
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== GPG Signing update ==
Benjamin reminded Hilary that EclipseCon France call for papers is running until the 15th and that it would be interesting to get more M2M content submitted.
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* https://wiki.eclipse.org/GPG
  
= Feb 19, 2013 (proposed agenda)=
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== LwM2M over MQTT ==
* Starting API Work.
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* MqGnatt contribution
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* https://wiki.eclipse.org/IoT/LwM2M_MQTT_Binding
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== IoT Challenge ==
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* http://openiotchallenge.tumblr.com
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* Gift cards have been sent to 10 projects.
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* Eclipse IoT Projects are encouraged to monitor Twitter and help the participants with any questions they may have
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= Jan 15, 2015 (Marketing call) =
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== Agenda ==
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* IoT Developer Survey
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* IoT Challenge
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* Web site updates
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* Eclipse IoT Day in Dresden Germany
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* IoT Day in Grenoble, France
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== Attendees ==
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* Benjamin Cabé
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* Ian Skerrett
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* Jens Reimann
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* Dave Woodard
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* Julien Vermillard
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* Bernd Fischer
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* Mahdi Ben Alaya
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== IoT Developer Survey ==
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* Goal is to understand what's going on in the market, and esp. for developers
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* Jens volunteered to help elaborate the questions
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== IoT Challenge ==
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* Deadline to enter is January 17
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* We have around 20 entries so far so we expect to end up with 30+
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* Participants will have to blog about their project and we will be promoting the content
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== Web site updates ==
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* iot.eclipse.org needs some love
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* On the home page:
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** List the projects
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** Improve the contact form
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* Benjamin and Ian will draft an update for the website
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== Eclipse IoT Day in Dresden Germany ==
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* Eclipse and IoT Workshop on March 18th
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* Looking for speakers
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* 50+ participants
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* SmartHome, EclipseSCADA, Vorto
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* Bernd will promote the event on the Eclipse mailing list
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== IoT Day in Grenoble, France ==
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* March 30-31 in Grenoble
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* See https://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_IoT_Day_Grenoble_2015
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* One day sessions, one day workshop (OpenHAB, MQTT, RIOT OS)
  
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= Feb 12, 2013=
 
* There is general consensus that the Continua sequence diagrams can serve as starting point for REST mapping and API work. We will look for means to get that work going in one or more of the projects, on the next call.  Axeda's work on the scenarios will factor into this as well.
 
* Arlen is still intending to contribute McGnatt. It could  as a "best practices implementation" in combination with some new documentation.
 
* Possible Webinars
 
** It was proposed that a whitepaper and/or webinar on Device Management/Provisioning with respect to the Eclipse work, would be of value.  Mats will look further into this.
 
** A security webinar to outline and discuss security solutions in end-to-end M2M application development
 
* An introduction to the Lua MQTT client, and the platforms and applications it is being used on.   
 
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= Feb 5, 2013=
 
== Attendees  ==
 
*Mats Samuelsson, Axeda
 
*Patrick Dempsey, Band XI
 
*Hilary Tomasson, Eurotech
 
*Scott de Deugd, IBM
 
==Continuation: discussion of MQTT related topics raised by Axeda==
 
* Scott gave update on OASIS TC. Last date to join the TC is March 18th.
 
* There was some feedback from review of Continua Sequence Diagrams that it looks like useful input to the API work. No next steps were agreed to but we will revisit this again after Phil and Mats have the opportunity to update the Scenarios and Problems.
 
* Discussion of MQTT related topics raised by Axeda but not covered last week.
 
**Lua: Axeda would like to contribute to Lua Client. Scott suggested their project lead call into the bi-weekly Paho calls for an introduction to Andy Gelme.
 
**Best Practices: There still are no volunteers for such a document but Mats said Axeda is interested in taking a lead to get this moving. There was some discussion of integration this with the pending MqGnatt contribution from Cirrus Link so we will discuss again when Arlen can make the cal.
 
* Ian pointed out a potential new contributions from m2m.io (https://twitter.com/kylemroche/status/297462594699157505). It looks that discussion has moved to the MQTT Google Group.
 
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= Jan 29, 2013 =
 
== Attendees  ==
 
*Mats Samuelsson, Axeda
 
*Phil Lombardi, Axeda
 
*Joe Biron, Axeda
 
*Patrick Dempsey, Band XI
 
*Arlen Nipper, Paho
 
*Benjamin Cabé, Sierra Wireless
 
*Scott de Deugd, IBM
 
==Discussion of MQTT related topics raised by Axeda==
 
*''High level positioning of the MQTT protocol'' (e.g. "long haul" networks). Scott and Arlen gave a brief overview of the discussion the OASIS C charter which led to describing a number of characteristics of MQTT and network topographies it is designed for. While it is well suited for wireless/constrained networks between an M2M gateway/edge and an enterprise type server, we probably want to avoid precluding its uses there, or in other network topologies. The IWG should pursue this as the topic of a white paper and it will be discussed again around MQTT-s (see note below)
 
*''Client ID:
 
**The behavior to disconnect existing clients if a client connects to the broker with the same client ID is not ideal. It would be nice if the protocol specified that the broker should auto-assign an unused client ID. Perhaps this could be an option sent in one of the header fields?
 
**It would be great if the client ID could hold at a minimum a UUID length of characters.''
 
**It was not clear that this needs to be part of the MQTT protocol Axeda will work this into a requirement set so that the IWG can understand the problem and work on a recommend solution in the Eclipse projects. Phil will take a look at the existing M2M use cases in the form of [http://wiki.eclipse.org/Machine-to-Machine/M2MIWG/M2M_Scenarios Scenarios and Problems], to see if they can be modified to include the situations Axeda anticipates. 
 
*''MQTT-S: The community needs a public reference implementation of MQTT-S. When we performed our research on MQTT around October of 2012 we were unable to find any public implementations of MQTT-S. I remember seeing that the reason for this is that there are legal issues surrounding the MQTT-S spec somewhere on the MQTT Google Group.''
 
**Scott gave an overview of the OASIS Standardization effort and how it is positioned with Paho. Community feedback so far is that MQTT-S is important, yet out of scope of the OASIS Technical Committee. It is withing the scope of Paho and agreed to take this discussion outside the IWG calls to develop a recommendation.
 
*The remaining topics brought up were deferred to a future call.
 
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Latest revision as of 04:21, 4 June 2015

The Internet of Things Industry Working Group is holding bi-weekly calls on Wednesdays, at 12pm ET.
Participation to these calls is restricted to members of the IWG, but the minutes are public. We alternate between marketing-focused calls (upcoming events coordination, community outreach, etc.), and technical calls mostly targeting project leads, to synchronize cross-project activities.

The meetings are held via teleconference. The regular call-in numbers are shown below (if possible, please used caller paid numbers). There are a few local / toll-free dial in numbers, but you may want to setup a SIP client on your computer if possible.

  • North America 1-866-569-4992
  • Germany 49-692-2224-6059
  • France 33-(0)-17-070-8535
  • UK 0800-033-7806
  • Switzerland 41-44-580-2115
  • Sweden 46-85-063-8386
  • Italy 003-902-3604-8268

Participant conference extension: 713, then enter pin 68764

SIP clients can call 713@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 68764.

June 3, 2015 (Marketing call)

Participants

  • Jens Reimann
  • Ian Skerrett
  • Benjamin Cabé
  • Kai Kreuzer
  • Virgil Dodson
  • James Kirkland (and XX), Red Hat
  • Ian Craggs
  • Alois Zoitl
  • Dave Woodard


Agenda

  • Introduction of new members
  • IoT Events
  • Update of Virtual IoT Meetup
  • IoT Case Studies: I'd like to start collecting case studies on how companies are using Eclipse IoT technology.
  • Other topics?


Introduction of new members

  • James and XX from Red Hat introduced themselves.
  • Other new members who recently joined include Azul Systems and Verisign.

IoT Events

  • We are looking at having an Eclipse booth at M2M Summit and share the cost between Eclipse IoT members
  • IoT World Congress in Barcelona (same event organizer as Mobile World Congress)
    • Call for papers is out
  • IoT Day at EclipseCon Europe, similar to what we did at EclipseCon 2015
  • Industry of Things in Berlin
    • Can we do an Eclipse IoT Day just before or after this show?

Virtual IoT

  • 350 members and counting
  • Hundreds of replays of the webinars on YouTube
  • Alois is interested to present 4DIAC at the end of September. Benjamin will be in touch to put the presentation in the schedule.

IoT Case Studies

  • Ian would like to start harvesting case studies and success stories w/ the different projects and technologies of Eclipse IoT
  • Ian will start reaching out to companies and put together a template of the information needed for documenting the case study

GitHub issues

  • Projects have to use Bugzilla. The reason is Eclipse Fdn does not want to use vendor-specific solution (if a vendor goes away, we have an issue).
  • Ian suggests that PMC leaders Jens and Kai take the issue to the Board level via the Committer Reps

May 20, 2015 (Project leads call)

Participants

  • Benjamin Cabé
  • Ian Craggs
  • Jens Reimann
  • Kai Kreuzer
  • Marc Mültin
  • Virgil Dodson
  • Ian Skerrett
  • Dave Woodard

Agenda

  • Presentation of the new RiseV2G IoT Project
  • IoT Commons, in particular current status regarding Bluetooth LE and USB
  • Update on Open Source IoT server discussions
  • LwM2M over MQTT: next steps

RiseV2G

  • This project aims to implement communication between Electric Vehicals (EVs) and charging stations
    • Based on IEC 15118 standard
  • Quite a community already: car manufacturers, utility, ...
  • Presented at two major international conferences over the last year
  • The protocol is client/server. RiseV2G aims at being integrated in charging stations (server) and the car is the client
  • Implementation is in Java
  • The protocol can be used for other smartgrid usecases like solar panels
  • Code will be hosted on GitHub
  • Marc indicates that there could be interesting collaboration opportunities with Eclipse SmartHome.
    • Kai indicates there is already a new binding in Eclipse SmartHome for Charging Stations (KeyBar(?))

IoT Commons

  • Our goal should will be to work on providing open source implementations of existing APIs (see eg. javax.comm, javax.usb, OSGi Alliance RFCs)
  • If we don't have the API (e.g. Modbus): what should we do?
  • Benjamin will provide a metadata "template" to make it easier to document the dependencies.

IoT Server

LwM2M over MQTT

  • Next steps: discussing proper integration of the work being done at IBM India in Leshan

Mar 25, 2015 (Project leads call)

Participants

  • Benjamin Cabé
  • Ian Craggs
  • Julien Vermillard
  • Luca Dazi

Agenda

  • Update on the IoT Challenge. Deadline was yesterday and Benjamin will update on the submitted solution and relationship with Eclipse IoT projects.
  • IP and process issues. Quick roundtable on any outstanding CQs or process issues that projects may have.
  • LwM2M over MQTT update.

IoT Challenge

  • The final entries have been submitted. See http://openiotchallenge.tumblr.com/
  • The results will be announced shortly
  • Many great submissions around MQTT, Kura, MQTT-SN, LwM2M so all the project leads are encouraged to have a look and engage with the participants

IP and Process Issues

  • Benjamin asks the project leads attending the call if they have process topics to discuss.

The following topics were discussed during the call:

  • Julien is inquiring about the time it takes to do a formal release, and asks about how long it takes to get an IP log approved, and a release approved.
    • If the project leadership has been managing its contribution properly, and granted that there are no problematic CQs, the IP log is approved in less than a week
    • Once the IP log is approved, at the project review can be scheduled and the review period cannot be less than a week.
    • This wiki page and associated diagram summarizes very well the workflow.
    • For the record, a project may decide to submit an IP log for approval even when a release isn't planned. This is useful whenever some major contributions or 3rd party libraries are added to the codebase, and in general to avoid rushing a few days before a release.
  • Ian Craggs rises the point of some projects he's been trying to recruit as Paho components, and who are currently hosted on Github. One of the reasons these projects wouldn't move to Eclipse was the fact they would lose Github issues and a very "low barrier" for bugs/feature requests to be reported.
    • Julien highlights that the current situation is pretty messy: some Eclipse projects recently created have Github issues enabled, or have had GH issues disabled by Eclipse webmaster and lost the existing issues that people already opened.
    • Someone has reminded that GH pull requests are very similar to GH issues, and are allowed.
    • If there is a legal reason to not allow Github issues, the projects would like to know. If there is a technical reason, it seems bug 442828 comment 7 would be a viable answer. In general, the project leaders all expressed that they don't have a clear position from EMO that they can use to explain to their community why GH issues aren't allowed.
    • Ian Craggs notes that a solution to the problem might be to consider Github issues with different levels of contribution, and that in several cases, an issue is just opened as a way to engage the discussion. If a GH issue ends up being an actual contribution, the project leadership could "clone" the conversation on Bugzilla, if that is needed for a legal reason.
  • Still on the topics of Github development, it is note that some projects avec their GitHub wiki enabled.
    • Is this a bug? Or, again, what is EMO's official position?
  • Both Ian and Julien express concerns about libraries coming from the NodeJS or Javascript ecosystem who prove difficult to be cleared, IP-wise (libuv for Mosquitto, Bootstrap or Angular libraries for Leshan...)
    • Julien wonders why Eclipse projects can't use libraries that do not have proper CLAs, but seem to be used widely. "Why is everybody using NodeJS and NodeJS libraries if there is a risk?"
    • Benjamin will reach out to the Orion project leadership to understand better how they work with 3rd party JS dependencies

LwM2M over MQTT

  • A meeting is scheduled for April 2, to discuss the current prototype implemented by IBM India during the Open IoT Challenge, and prepare next steps.
  • Wiki page

Feb 12, 2015 (Marketing call)

Participants

  • Jens
  • Ian Skerrett
  • Benjamin
  • Dave Woodard
  • Kai Kreuzer
  • Mahdi Ben Alaya
  • Virgil Dodson
  • Ian Craggs


Agenda

- IoT Challenge results to date - IoT Developer Survey - review questions in attached document - Web site updates - EclipseCon and IoT Day update

IoT Challenge

  • Participants' projects are highlighted on http://openiotchallenge.tumblr.com
  • Four projects are blogging actively and showing interesting results. Several "tips and tricks" and "tutorials" are being created as part of the blogging activity of the participants. Eclipse IoT projects should make sure to relay those in their own mailing lists, wikis, etc.
  • There are several solutions that are using Kura, Leshan, and MQTT/MQTT-SN
  • Deadline for final submissions will be March 23rd (initially Feb 27)

IoT Developer Survey

  • The survey should help build awareness about Eclipse IoT by writing a report
  • We probably don't want more than 20 questions
  • Question 10 on protocols should probably be split in two sections: messaging protocols and industrial protocols
  • "Is open source an important factor for your IoT solution?" or "What's your organization's view on OSS: never use it, considering using it, ..."

Web site updates

  • Benjamin and Ian are working on revamping the iot.eclipse.org website since it's start to show its age and is not adapted anymore to the numbers of projects and technologies we have
  • There should be showable results in the next couple weeks.

IoT Day

  • The help of the Eclipse IoT members to recruit participants is greatly appreciated :)

Jan 28, 2015 (Project leads call)

Agenda

  • Update of project release plans.
  • GPG signing update. Benjamin will provide an update on setting up GPG signing for IoT * projects.
  • LWM2M over MQTT – Update on the initial discussions regarding running LwM2M over MQTT https://wiki.eclipse.org/IoT/LwM2M_MQTT_Binding
  • Update on the IoT Challenge


Attendees

  • Benjamin
  • Jens
  • Michael Bradley
  • Kai K
  • Mahdi
  • Ian Craggs
  • Marco
  • Virgil

Update of project release plans

  • Paho
    • Paho 1.1 will include:
      • .Net and WinRT by Paolo Patierno
      • Formal release of the embedded client
      • Formal release of the Android service
      • Service update of all the other clients
    • Next version will be Paho 1.2
      • to be released in Mars
  • SmartHome
    • No release in preparation (there was a release announced in Dec. but it has been withdrawn)
    • Ongoing work on REST API
      • Automated and interactive documentation of the REST API using Swagger
  • SCADA
    • 0.2 release is out
      • built on Monday, ongoing testing. To be announced tomorrow.
      • inclusion of IEC standards is finally a GO!
    • next version will be 0.3
      • more functionality back-ported from OpenSCADA
      • deprecate old functionality
      • to be released in ~6 months
  • Kura
    • Kura released just before Christmas a 1.1
      • support for openJDK Device I/O API
      • support for USB HID
      • service release of the network management bits
      • upgrade to Paho 1.1
    • Moving forward, a 1.1.1 is planned for February
  • Mahdi
    • OM2M first release planned for March
      • CoAP and HTTP bindings
      • better SQL/database abstraction
      • backend interface
    • After that (Sept), a bridge to OneM2M will be added + a GUI

Project release schedule

  • Eclipse release train: every project joins and tools+plugins are synchronized
  • However for IoT we don't really have one single set of tools, but it would be great to provide a better view (calendar?) of what is in the pipe for the projects
    • PMI improvement?
    • Jens suggests that this is a manual web page on iot.eclipse.org, or it could use the PMI API

GPG Signing update

LwM2M over MQTT


IoT Challenge

  • http://openiotchallenge.tumblr.com
  • Gift cards have been sent to 10 projects.
  • Eclipse IoT Projects are encouraged to monitor Twitter and help the participants with any questions they may have

Jan 15, 2015 (Marketing call)

Agenda

  • IoT Developer Survey
  • IoT Challenge
  • Web site updates
  • Eclipse IoT Day in Dresden Germany
  • IoT Day in Grenoble, France

Attendees

  • Benjamin Cabé
  • Ian Skerrett
  • Jens Reimann
  • Dave Woodard
  • Julien Vermillard
  • Bernd Fischer
  • Mahdi Ben Alaya

IoT Developer Survey

  • Goal is to understand what's going on in the market, and esp. for developers
  • Jens volunteered to help elaborate the questions

IoT Challenge

  • Deadline to enter is January 17
  • We have around 20 entries so far so we expect to end up with 30+
  • Participants will have to blog about their project and we will be promoting the content

Web site updates

  • iot.eclipse.org needs some love
  • On the home page:
    • List the projects
    • Improve the contact form
  • Benjamin and Ian will draft an update for the website

Eclipse IoT Day in Dresden Germany

  • Eclipse and IoT Workshop on March 18th
  • Looking for speakers
  • 50+ participants
  • SmartHome, EclipseSCADA, Vorto
  • Bernd will promote the event on the Eclipse mailing list

IoT Day in Grenoble, France



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