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== Agenda == | == Agenda == | ||
* Where are we at wrt to our M5 goals? | * Where are we at wrt to our M5 goals? | ||
| − | * Are we adding support for source.bundles.txt? | + | ** Are we adding support for source.bundles.txt? |
| + | ** Do we want to review the namespaces and id used in MD (e.g.: osgi.packages, flavor, etc.)? | ||
| + | ** Do we change the JRE level? | ||
| + | ** Translation? | ||
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* What will be the shape of the other downloads: RCP, delta packs? | * What will be the shape of the other downloads: RCP, delta packs? | ||
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== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
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* John Arthorne | * John Arthorne | ||
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* DJ Houghton | * DJ Houghton | ||
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* Simon Kaegi | * Simon Kaegi | ||
| + | * Susan McCourt | ||
| + | * Tim Mok | ||
| + | * Andrew Overholt | ||
| + | * Pascal Rapicault | ||
| + | * Dave Stevenson | ||
| + | * Curtis Windatt | ||
| + | * Darin Wright | ||
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| + | == Minutes == | ||
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| + | * Graduation review | ||
| + | ** scheduled for Feb 13 | ||
| + | ** ip log + slides need to be ready for Feb 6 | ||
| + | ** not clear whether we have to do package renames before graduation | ||
| + | ** PMC questions - compatibility, install shape, layering UM on p2 | ||
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| + | *Eclipse M5 | ||
| + | ** where are we at? | ||
| + | ** simon has released profile delta code | ||
| + | ** still need to change the Director API because it doesn't handle property changes, only IU level changes | ||
| + | ** Director should be updated to match the API changes in the Planner | ||
| + | ** do we really need the director API? its an aggregator to avoid multiple calls for headless stuff | ||
| + | ** need to clean up the Engine#perform method... too many operand arguments in the API | ||
| + | ** tighten up the api of the profile in the profile registry | ||
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| + | * Performance | ||
| + | ** we added individual source bundles to the build which slowed things down | ||
| + | ** how to fix this in p2? | ||
| + | ** we aren't going to put the source bundles into the bundles.txt | ||
| + | ** pde isn't happy because it can't find the source bundles anymore (looks in the bundles.txt) | ||
| + | ** old-style install isn't happy because the source features can't find the source bundles so the dependancies aren't satisfied | ||
| + | ** talked about having a source-bundles.txt which contains the list of source bundles | ||
| + | ** can modify PDE to look at this file | ||
| + | ** would have to update UM to look into this file too | ||
| + | ** what happens at uninstall time? what happens when you uninstall the source feature? | ||
| + | ** PDE might be out of sync if there is an uninstall and the user doesn't restart | ||
| + | ** probably has the same problem today | ||
| + | ** do we want to write the source-bundles.txt for M5? | ||
| + | ** we will try to do it - Pascal to investigate | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Installer | ||
| + | ** john created it | ||
| + | ** working with Kim on getting it included in the build | ||
| + | ** hard to get content to test it with | ||
| + | ** update site is stale... contains stale metadata | ||
| + | ** had 6 builds listed but only artifacts for 2 or 3 | ||
| + | ** brings in all optional dependencies which aren't singletons | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Builds | ||
| + | ** how often do we want to run our builds? | ||
| + | ** have to run from tags | ||
| + | ** 9pm Ottawa time | ||
| + | ** Pascal to tag | ||
| + | |||
| + | * UI work | ||
| + | ** looking ok for M5 | ||
| + | ** clean-up inside the UI | ||
| + | ** is anyone working on the code to switch between the old and new UI? | ||
| + | ** Tim to work on that (not started yet) | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Signature verification and trusting | ||
| + | ** Tim working on this right now | ||
| + | ** caching JARs locally done, awaiting to be reviewed | ||
| + | ** Pascal to review | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Running the manual tests | ||
| + | ** Simon to run them | ||
| + | ** Andrew to run on linux | ||
| + | ** wait to run them on the tues i-build | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Translation | ||
| + | ** Dave looking at this | ||
| + | ** will prob be able to get the metadata generated for it (for M5) | ||
| + | ** Dave and Susan to sync up w.r.t. what this means to the ui | ||
| + | ** would like to have a pseudo-translation available for testing | ||
| + | |||
| + | * JRE | ||
| + | ** Simon to change the level of the JRE that we are shipping with | ||
| + | ** we should change the description so people who are using 1.6, are able to run with it | ||
| + | ** would be nice to be able to ship with a JRE (download it) | ||
| + | ** also need to discover what the user is running with | ||
| + | ** can point to a JRE dir and run the generator and it will zip it up but in this it can't figure out that its a JRE, only a native thing | ||
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| + | * Update Manager compatibility | ||
| + | ** DJ needs another set of eyes to look at the reconciler | ||
| + | ** problems when adding the dropins bundle to a provisioned SDK | ||
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| + | * Products | ||
| + | ** product iu from product metadata | ||
| + | ** Pascal to ask Andrew to look into this | ||
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| + | * MAC | ||
| + | ** support for mac launching | ||
| + | ** Pascal to get help with this | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Delivering a provisioned SDK | ||
| + | ** would like to have a provisioned SDK available as a download | ||
| + | ** time permitting for M5 | ||
| + | |||
| + | * pack200 | ||
| + | ** support for pack200 is now in | ||
| + | ** need to verify we do the right things, download the right files, put them in the right place, etc. | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Shape of downloads | ||
| + | ** currently we have JDT, PDE, etc downloads | ||
| + | ** zip files which you extract over-top a platform install | ||
| + | ** are they relevant in p2? | ||
| + | ** p2 requires the bundles.txt file to be updated | ||
| + | ** if someone is creating a custom product based on multiple zips from Eclipse, then these zips would still be useful | ||
| + | ** ideally, they should be obsolete | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Shared install | ||
| + | ** coming along ok | ||
| + | ** ran into a few problems | ||
| + | ** Andrew to provide patch to Simon w.r.t. profile properties | ||
Latest revision as of 13:06, 28 January 2008
See Equinox p2 Meetings for complete index.
Agenda
- Where are we at wrt to our M5 goals?
- Are we adding support for source.bundles.txt?
- Do we want to review the namespaces and id used in MD (e.g.: osgi.packages, flavor, etc.)?
- Do we change the JRE level?
- Translation?
- What will be the shape of the other downloads: RCP, delta packs?
Attendees
- John Arthorne
- DJ Houghton
- Simon Kaegi
- Susan McCourt
- Tim Mok
- Andrew Overholt
- Pascal Rapicault
- Dave Stevenson
- Curtis Windatt
- Darin Wright
Minutes
- Graduation review
- scheduled for Feb 13
- ip log + slides need to be ready for Feb 6
- not clear whether we have to do package renames before graduation
- PMC questions - compatibility, install shape, layering UM on p2
- Eclipse M5
- where are we at?
- simon has released profile delta code
- still need to change the Director API because it doesn't handle property changes, only IU level changes
- Director should be updated to match the API changes in the Planner
- do we really need the director API? its an aggregator to avoid multiple calls for headless stuff
- need to clean up the Engine#perform method... too many operand arguments in the API
- tighten up the api of the profile in the profile registry
- Performance
- we added individual source bundles to the build which slowed things down
- how to fix this in p2?
- we aren't going to put the source bundles into the bundles.txt
- pde isn't happy because it can't find the source bundles anymore (looks in the bundles.txt)
- old-style install isn't happy because the source features can't find the source bundles so the dependancies aren't satisfied
- talked about having a source-bundles.txt which contains the list of source bundles
- can modify PDE to look at this file
- would have to update UM to look into this file too
- what happens at uninstall time? what happens when you uninstall the source feature?
- PDE might be out of sync if there is an uninstall and the user doesn't restart
- probably has the same problem today
- do we want to write the source-bundles.txt for M5?
- we will try to do it - Pascal to investigate
- Installer
- john created it
- working with Kim on getting it included in the build
- hard to get content to test it with
- update site is stale... contains stale metadata
- had 6 builds listed but only artifacts for 2 or 3
- brings in all optional dependencies which aren't singletons
- Builds
- how often do we want to run our builds?
- have to run from tags
- 9pm Ottawa time
- Pascal to tag
- UI work
- looking ok for M5
- clean-up inside the UI
- is anyone working on the code to switch between the old and new UI?
- Tim to work on that (not started yet)
- Signature verification and trusting
- Tim working on this right now
- caching JARs locally done, awaiting to be reviewed
- Pascal to review
- Running the manual tests
- Simon to run them
- Andrew to run on linux
- wait to run them on the tues i-build
- Translation
- Dave looking at this
- will prob be able to get the metadata generated for it (for M5)
- Dave and Susan to sync up w.r.t. what this means to the ui
- would like to have a pseudo-translation available for testing
- JRE
- Simon to change the level of the JRE that we are shipping with
- we should change the description so people who are using 1.6, are able to run with it
- would be nice to be able to ship with a JRE (download it)
- also need to discover what the user is running with
- can point to a JRE dir and run the generator and it will zip it up but in this it can't figure out that its a JRE, only a native thing
- Update Manager compatibility
- DJ needs another set of eyes to look at the reconciler
- problems when adding the dropins bundle to a provisioned SDK
- Products
- product iu from product metadata
- Pascal to ask Andrew to look into this
- MAC
- support for mac launching
- Pascal to get help with this
- Delivering a provisioned SDK
- would like to have a provisioned SDK available as a download
- time permitting for M5
- pack200
- support for pack200 is now in
- need to verify we do the right things, download the right files, put them in the right place, etc.
- Shape of downloads
- currently we have JDT, PDE, etc downloads
- zip files which you extract over-top a platform install
- are they relevant in p2?
- p2 requires the bundles.txt file to be updated
- if someone is creating a custom product based on multiple zips from Eclipse, then these zips would still be useful
- ideally, they should be obsolete
- Shared install
- coming along ok
- ran into a few problems
- Andrew to provide patch to Simon w.r.t. profile properties