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= Meeting Minutes =
 
= Meeting Minutes =
'''March 6, 2013''' -
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'''March 6, 2013''' - McQ, John, Martin, Andrew
 
* Martin: '''{{bug|402509}} context menu filtering'''
 
* Martin: '''{{bug|402509}} context menu filtering'''
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** AI Martin ask engineers document what we're doing today
 
* Martin: '''{{bug|397896}} EPP vs Classic''' - how to proceed
 
* Martin: '''{{bug|397896}} EPP vs Classic''' - how to proceed
** Martin's recent finding on Marketplace
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** Martin's recent findings on Marketplace
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*** There's p2, Marketplace, Packages in the Open but they are only parts of the solution
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*** There's commercial installers from EclipseSource (Yoxos), Genuitec, IBM
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*** John: p2 simplified UI (eg Webtools Server Adaptors; Mylyn)
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** What's missing ? David too booked ?
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* John: '''CBI Builds in Kepler''' - SDK in good shape but repo and Equinox downloadpage not quite right yet, some might take until M6
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* John: '''Delete old Platform/UI Branches''' - any PMC Policy ? No, convert branches to tags
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* John: '''API Freeze next week''' - some (modest) new Eclipse 4 API's
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** McQ recommends going for a "complete, but minimal subset of what people will want to do", rather than too many convenience methods
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** John: Some API has been provisional for 3 years - can't make wholesale changes now for the fun of it
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*** May phase in some changes by adding @noreference rather than deleting stuff
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*** In some cases there's pressure to use interfaces rather than classes, in order to be able and leverage Java 8 constructs
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* Orion - anybody going to JSConf ?
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'''February 27, 2013''' - John, Andrew, Dani
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* Nothing noteworthy
  
 
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Contents

Documents

Some documents written and/or used by the PMC:

Meeting Schedule

The Eclipse Project PMC has a weekly phone meeting every wednesday at 10.30am EST.

Meeting Minutes

March 6, 2013 - McQ, John, Martin, Andrew

  • Martin: bug 402509 context menu filtering
    • AI Martin ask engineers document what we're doing today
  • Martin: bug 397896 EPP vs Classic - how to proceed
    • Martin's recent findings on Marketplace
      • There's p2, Marketplace, Packages in the Open but they are only parts of the solution
      • There's commercial installers from EclipseSource (Yoxos), Genuitec, IBM
      • John: p2 simplified UI (eg Webtools Server Adaptors; Mylyn)
    • What's missing ? David too booked ?
  • John: CBI Builds in Kepler - SDK in good shape but repo and Equinox downloadpage not quite right yet, some might take until M6
  • John: Delete old Platform/UI Branches - any PMC Policy ? No, convert branches to tags
  • John: API Freeze next week - some (modest) new Eclipse 4 API's
    • McQ recommends going for a "complete, but minimal subset of what people will want to do", rather than too many convenience methods
    • John: Some API has been provisional for 3 years - can't make wholesale changes now for the fun of it
      • May phase in some changes by adding @noreference rather than deleting stuff
      • In some cases there's pressure to use interfaces rather than classes, in order to be able and leverage Java 8 constructs
  • Orion - anybody going to JSConf ?

February 27, 2013 - John, Andrew, Dani

  • Nothing noteworthy

February 20, 2013 - McQ, John, Dani, Martin, Andrew

  • John: Orion Release Review, please give feedback

February 13, 2013


February 6, 2013 - John, Dani, Martin

  • John: M5a and SR2 RC4
  • John: Pawel and Platform / Debug work (Pin & Clone)
    • Only adopt when it's really ready and satisfies all criteria, otherwise not into Kepler
    • Maybe pull out Debug plugins into a feature of their own ?

January 30, 2013 - McQ, John, Dani, Martin, Andrew

  • John: SR2 RC3 looking good - want to know about any remaining issues
  • Dani: Java 8 Update - Markus Keller will move from JDT UI to JDT Core, taking over JSR-308
  • John: NODE Dependency in Orion (exempt pre-req)
    • Not shipping NODE ourselves, pushing to NODE package manager instead (or clone from git)
    • Andrew: Is it a workswith ?
    • Martin: Is there any overlap with the Java portion ?
      • The server code is completely distinct from Java, but the same client can interact with both

January 24, 2013 -

  • Martin: 4.3 and 3.8 dual-stream - Webtools project plan
    • egit, mylyn, dtp have been doing both n + n-1 for a long time
    • Technically, running on both should be possible if Platform API is used (except for the changes in Theming)
    • The Eclipse Community needs to advance the latest (4.3)
    • IBM product teams have been told not to forward at all if they can't forward to 4.x - shipping on 4.2
    • John: Having wider ranges of tolerance is something we should be able to do (otherwise our plugin system is failing)
    • John: Java8 will be the first killer feature in 4.x
  • Dani: Java 8
    • Will provide feature patches as soon as it makes sense - early draft, participating in expert group
    • Want to have the compiler and editor ready when Java 8 goes GA - initial refactoring etc in SR1 - full feature set in the next release
  • John: CBI update
    • Consider switch after M5

January 17, 2013 - McQ, John, Martin

  • John: bug 397896 EPP vs Classic
    • Could volunteer to own the EPP package from Platform POV
    • Then Wayne would own the decision of RCP/RAP vs Classic - what's the difference, keep both or unify
  • John: Test Failures on I-Builds
    • Move away tests that have been failing for 9 months
    • Dani: Most tests are actually down to 0 failures
  • John: CBI / Maven Builds
    • Appears to be fragile at the moment - Maven .micro releases are breaking the build!

January 10, 2013 - McQ, John, Dani, Martin

  • McQ: CBI - Switching Platform build to CBI for SR2 is not doable
    • Want to make CBI work for Juno since it's the LTS stream
    • CBI SDK builds are good at this point, it's only a couple of minor issues (shape of repos, download page, ...
    • When to switch to CBI in the Kepler Stream ? - Proposal do do it immediately
  • CBI patches waiting for Platform to pick up

January 3, 2013 - McQ, Andrew, John, Dani

  • Andrew will recommend good conferences to promote Orion

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