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= Documents =
 
= Documents =
 
 
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= Meeting Schedule =
 
= Meeting Schedule =
  
The [http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/team-leaders.php Eclipse Project PMC] has a weekly phone meeting '''every wednesday at 10.30am EST'''.
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The [http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/team-leaders.php Eclipse Project PMC] has a weekly phone meeting '''every Tuesday at 11.00am EST'''.
  
 
= Meeting Minutes =
 
= Meeting Minutes =
'''January 26, 2011:''' - Dani, John, Martin,
 
* Dani: {{bug|330534}} '''ObjectTeams Contribution''' - JDT might allow using their namespace as an exception, couple p2 bugs pending
 
** If the p2 solution cannot be done, OT/J will need to remain off the train
 
* Martin: Concerned about '''Eclipse 3.x quality''', many regressions and not being addressed
 
** {{bug|320329}} ThreadJob#waitForRun can spin when blockingJob is not RUNNING
 
*** '''Platform Runtime: Regression''' introduced in 3.6, can have severe Performance impact, reported 10-Jul, commenters unsure about approach to fix
 
*** A buggy contribution was accepted, and then the contributor left
 
*** John spent a lot of time.. there was a fix that didn't work
 
*** Dani: Could the contribution be pulled out? - No because it's new API (yield())
 
*** Contributor was quite good originally but then just switched teams and was no longer available
 
*** The new testcase from Markus Schorn might help narrowing down the case quickly
 
** {{bug|335153}} Regression: p2 downloads are much slower due to picking remote artifacts even when a local file: URL is available
 
*** '''p2: Regression''' introduced in 3.6, reported 24-Jan, testcase + patch attached, response pending
 
** {{bug|332840}} Wrong error about API change (Regression; works with 3.7M3)
 
*** '''API Tooling: Regression''' introduced in 3.7M4, reported 17-Dec, Olivier:  "I'll take a look" but no response since
 
** {{bug|332838}} Bogus potential null pointer access warning (regression; works with 3.6)
 
*** '''JDT: Regression''' introduced in 3.7M4, reported 17-Dec, Ayushman: "I'll investigate" but no response since
 
** {{bug|332507}} [regression] incomplete build path reported on o.e.rse.subsystem.shells.local
 
*** '''PDE UI: Regression''' introduced in 3.7M4, reported 14-Dec, initial traffic but no followup since 16-Dec
 
** {{bug|335466}} Regression: category.xml processing fails when "name" contains special chars
 
*** Just detected recently
 
** {{bug|313899}} [Progress] Every user-job causes a busy cursor to be shown for a minimum of 250ms
 
*** '''Platform UI''': Patch provided on 21-May, no response whatsoever from Platform UI
 
** John: There had been a fair bit of turnover, new committers getting up to speed ... having less experienced people is a fact
 
*** Identifying key bugs in the big bug database takes a lot of experience
 
** Dani: M5 is the Major feature freeze, so new feature / API work has highest priority ... so quality drop is somewhat expected in M5
 
** Even for regressions... if the regression is less critical than new bugs, it goes behind
 
** '''RESOLUTION:''' Make the important bugs visible to the component leads or PMC. It's natural that we sometimes need to ping on a bug. M5 is a problematic time.
 
* John: {{bug|335374}} '''Redhat 6 as a Reference Platform'''
 
** SWT team doing some final testing, then will put only RH6 on the Ref Platform list
 
* John: '''OpenJDK as a Reference Platform''' - Oracle is interested and might contribute testing
 
  
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See https://github.com/eclipse-platform/.github/wiki/PMC-Meeting-minutes for new minutes
''' January 19, 2011:''' - McQ, John, Jeff, Dani, Martin
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* Jeff will be unavailable for meeting next 6-7 weeks
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* John: How do we interpret "under the direction of the PMC" in [http://www.eclipse.org/legal/EclipseLegalProcessPoster.pdf Eclipse legal process]?
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** McQ: Not about approval, but about PMC being aware
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** Jeff: Goal is to indicate "Working with an Eclipse mindset", ie in close collaboration with a committer ... contributor must be aware of IP due diligence guidelines from the beginning of evolution of the code. We want to avoid introducing IP leaks by accepting legacy code that was written before assuming an Eclipse mindset.
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** McQ: This is about understanding the direction of Eclipse as a whole. Request a PMC +1 on the bug as work is being started. PMC should work with committer to ensure that contributor has been instructed about IP rules.
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March 30, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Lars
''' January 12, 2011:''' -  
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* Discussion about simplification of the Github repo structure
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* Currently no plan to provide a Github for user to report issues, we rather
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* For pull request there should no need to open a bug report / GH issue,  all present PMC members agreed, to be discussed next week with Jay and MQ.
  
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February 16, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ
''' January 5, 2011:''' - McQ, John, Dani, Jeff, Martin
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* IP log done for 2022-03, process might be removed by the foundation in the future
* Dani: Component Lead progress? - Portal still doesn't have the correct list of components
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* Auto-closed policy can now be decided by project, project committer can vote on it
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* Support of additional architecture LoongArch and FreeBSD was discussed, for now we expect the builds outside of Eclipse.org for these architures
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** building Eclipse might get easier with planned enhancements in Tycho
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* Bug reports from Bugzilla are not planned to be moved to Github, will continue to exist in Bugzilla
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'''January 19, 2022''' - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ
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* Eclipse aggregator build is currently migrated to Github
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* Github migration work of the aggregator is documented in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=577323
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* The most important PGP work items are done with the help of Ed Merks, some secondary issues are still missing, e.g. such features are shown as unsigned
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* JFR Event are discussed in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=578055, PMC members should check so that we can discuss it next week
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'''January 12, 2022''' - Alex, Tom, Jay, McQ
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* Move to PGP signed content news to IDE WG and Planning Council
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** Well received so far
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** 2022-03 to has the implementation, 2022-06 to do full switch
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** we use PGP for content not delivered to Simrel
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** Ed helps with implementation/bug fixes
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** only concern is critical CVE - that would require either help or PGP signed content being pushed to 2022-03
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*** To be further discussed if such an issue happens
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* ECF relation
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** Project is heavily under resourced
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** No one knows good reason to still be using Apache Httpclient, Java HttpClient is not tried out and the previous JVM Http code had severe limitations
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** Development falling out on Platform releng for updates to Apache Httpclient, Windows proxy support and etc. is a no-go
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** Possible plan
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*** Create Java Httpclient based connector for ECF or enhance the current default one to use Httpclient and not Httpconnection - removes need to update Apache Httpclient dependency, take care of windows specific bundles with JNA dependency and so on
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*** If previous doesn't uncover limitation in Java's Httpclient stop shipping Apache Httpclient connector
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*** Assuming 2 previous complete - look if it makes sense to not have ECF as a dependency at all to skip one cyclic dependency
  
 
= Archive =
 
= Archive =
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2021 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2021]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2020 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2020]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2019 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2019]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2018 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2018]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2017 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2017]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2016 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2016]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2015 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2015]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2014 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2014]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2013 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2013]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2012 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2012]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2011 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2011]]
 
* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2010 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2010]]
 
* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2010 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2010]]
 
* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2009 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2009]]
 
* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2009 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2009]]

Latest revision as of 10:39, 28 September 2022

Documents

Some documents written and/or used by the PMC:

Meeting Schedule

The Eclipse Project PMC has a weekly phone meeting every Tuesday at 11.00am EST.

Meeting Minutes

See https://github.com/eclipse-platform/.github/wiki/PMC-Meeting-minutes for new minutes

March 30, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Lars

  • Discussion about simplification of the Github repo structure
  • Currently no plan to provide a Github for user to report issues, we rather
  • For pull request there should no need to open a bug report / GH issue, all present PMC members agreed, to be discussed next week with Jay and MQ.

February 16, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ

  • IP log done for 2022-03, process might be removed by the foundation in the future
  • Auto-closed policy can now be decided by project, project committer can vote on it
  • Support of additional architecture LoongArch and FreeBSD was discussed, for now we expect the builds outside of Eclipse.org for these architures
    • building Eclipse might get easier with planned enhancements in Tycho
  • Bug reports from Bugzilla are not planned to be moved to Github, will continue to exist in Bugzilla


January 19, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ

January 12, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, McQ

  • Move to PGP signed content news to IDE WG and Planning Council
    • Well received so far
    • 2022-03 to has the implementation, 2022-06 to do full switch
    • we use PGP for content not delivered to Simrel
    • Ed helps with implementation/bug fixes
    • only concern is critical CVE - that would require either help or PGP signed content being pushed to 2022-03
      • To be further discussed if such an issue happens
  • ECF relation
    • Project is heavily under resourced
    • No one knows good reason to still be using Apache Httpclient, Java HttpClient is not tried out and the previous JVM Http code had severe limitations
    • Development falling out on Platform releng for updates to Apache Httpclient, Windows proxy support and etc. is a no-go
    • Possible plan
      • Create Java Httpclient based connector for ECF or enhance the current default one to use Httpclient and not Httpconnection - removes need to update Apache Httpclient dependency, take care of windows specific bundles with JNA dependency and so on
      • If previous doesn't uncover limitation in Java's Httpclient stop shipping Apache Httpclient connector
      • Assuming 2 previous complete - look if it makes sense to not have ECF as a dependency at all to skip one cyclic dependency

Archive

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