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= Documents =
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Some documents written and/or used by the PMC:
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* [[E4/Graduation_4.0]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Unix Groups]]
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= Meeting Schedule =
 
= Meeting Schedule =
  
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The [http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/team-leaders.php Eclipse Project PMC] has a weekly phone meeting '''every wednesday at 10.30am EST'''.
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The [http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/team-leaders.php Eclipse Project PMC] has a weekly phone meeting '''every Tuesday at 11.00am EST'''.
  
 
= Meeting Minutes =
 
= Meeting Minutes =
  
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'''Mar 3, 2010:''' -
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See https://github.com/eclipse-platform/.github/wiki/PMC-Meeting-minutes for new minutes
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* Martin: Remove org.eclipse.update.configurator and related bundles from SDK? As per {{bug|304505}} it makes Eclipse slow even when off.
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March 30, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Lars
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'''Feb 24, 2010:''' - Dani, Martin, McQ
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* Discussion about simplification of the Github repo structure
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* Dani: Remove Java 7 support as a plan item due to (a) legal reasons and (b) Java 7 not being finished when Eclipse 3.6 ships
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* Currently no plan to provide a Github for user to report issues, we rather
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* For pull request there should no need to open a bug report / GH issue,  all present PMC members agreed, to be discussed next week with Jay and MQ.  
  
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February 16, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ
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'''Feb 17, 2010:''' - Martin, Dani, John
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* IP log done for 2022-03, process might be removed by the foundation in the future
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* Martin: {{bug|196337}} Pushing CDT Spawner into the Platform?
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* Auto-closed policy can now be decided by project, project committer can vote on it
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** John, Dani: Platform could only accept it when there is use for it in the SDK. Otherwise it would just bloat the Platform
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* Support of additional architecture LoongArch and FreeBSD was discussed, for now we expect the builds outside of Eclipse.org for these architures
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** Recommended best practice: Keep Spawner living in CDT, but put it into a separate bundle such that it can be used by others out of Helios or other p2 Repos
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** building Eclipse might get easier with planned enhancements in Tycho
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** The [[Nexus Project]], which was once meant to collect such micro functionality to be shared between projects was never successful. Similar requests (e.g. faceted projects) are consumed as individual bundles through p2 today, no matter in which project they have their home where they are developed.
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* Bug reports from Bugzilla are not planned to be moved to Github, will continue to exist in Bugzilla
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* Martin: {{bug|301563}} Fast project import from snapshot data - UI or not?
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** John: Want some UI in the Platform in order to test it more easily, e.g. an export wizard
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* John: Webkit
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** Foundation is considering allowing LGPL for exempt prereqs, but not for works-with .. missing a policy for dealing with LGPL works-with
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** John: Our original reason for marking works-with is that the SWT browser can use either Mozilla or WebKit. However our long term direction is WebKit-only due to brittleness of the Mozilla API which keeps breaking us. There is an increasing number of distros bundling these WebKit libraries so there is a reasonable chance going forward that the library will already be present on the user's machine.
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** Martin: Exempt works-with (optional) prereq is perfectly fine for Webkit, since there is a chance it's already there on a Platform (similar to Mozilla)
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** Classifying it as such makes most sense for Product builders, who look at the prereqs to understand what they need to bundle with their Eclipse based product.
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** PMC agreed to reclassify these libraries as exempt pre-req.
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'''Feb 10, 2010:''' - John, Dani, McQ
 
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* We agreed to list WebKitGTK and libsoup 2.4 as works-with prerequisites
 
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* We need to find consensus on {{bug|243582}} (embedding source info in binaries)
 
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* Discussed moving Ubuntu version on the plan from 9.04 to 10.04. It is too early to make this decision because release candidates of 10.04 are not yet available, but we will continue to monitor it and make the decision to move up (or not) later in the 3.6 cycle
 
  
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'''January 19, 2022''' - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ
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'''Feb 03, 2010:''' - Dani, Martin
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* Eclipse aggregator build is currently migrated to Github
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* Dani: {{Bug|301563}} -  Fast project import from snapshot data
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* Github migration work of the aggregator is documented in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=577323
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** Has the feature been verified to really return the expected performance gain? - Martin: Yes, Cisco reports 10 minute -> 5 seconds improvement by using the feature on project import on their view (65000 files)
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* The most important PGP work items are done with the help of Ed Merks, some secondary issues are still missing, e.g. such features are shown as unsigned
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** Is the feature valuable without Index contributions from JDT / CDT? - Martin: Yes, even "plain" projects benefit when there are linked resources pointing to web folders through RSE/EFS since they can be browsed immediately and refresh can be reduced to what's really needed. But most benefit is gained when there is also a shared index to be imported for immediate use.
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* JFR Event are discussed in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=578055, PMC members should check so that we can discuss it next week
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** Dani proposed checkin into a branch for easier merge / review - Martin: Will start working with patches
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** AI Martin: Contact Sharon regarding IP review (reserve a slot)
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'''January 12, 2022''' - Alex, Tom, Jay, McQ
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'''Jan 27, 2010:''' - John, Dani, McQ, Martin
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* Move to PGP signed content news to IDE WG and Planning Council
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* Dani: Markus Keller taking over JDT UI
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** Well received so far
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* John: M6 Splashscreen for Eclipsecon: {{bug|297355}}
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** 2022-03 to has the implementation, 2022-06 to do full switch
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* McQ: Removing Builds - SWT needs Linux-Motif, so only WPF about to be removed
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** we use PGP for content not delivered to Simrel
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** In discussions with Microsoft, it turned out that WPF is not required to get full Windows 7 experience under Win32
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** Ed helps with implementation/bug fixes
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** XAML for styling was meant to be a cool idea but never got flying
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** only concern is critical CVE - that would require either help or PGP signed content being pushed to 2022-03
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** Socialize people with this -- find whether people are inerested in contributing on this, if yes then we should support them
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*** To be further discussed if such an issue happens
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* Still working the IBM approval process for travelling to Eclipsecon
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* ECF relation
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* Avoid merging major feature work after a milestone's Tuesday test pass
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** Project is heavily under resourced
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** No one knows good reason to still be using Apache Httpclient, Java HttpClient is not tried out and the previous JVM Http code had severe limitations
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** Development falling out on Platform releng for updates to Apache Httpclient, Windows proxy support and etc. is a no-go
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'''Jan 20, 2010:''' - John, Dani, McQ, Martin
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** Possible plan
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* McQ: Contacted Steve N, still interested but unlikely to get more energy for investing into Eclipse
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*** Create Java Httpclient based connector for ECF or enhance the current default one to use Httpclient and not Httpconnection - removes need to update Apache Httpclient dependency, take care of windows specific bundles with JNA dependency and so on
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* John: 3.5.2 test pass tomorrow, but yesterday's I-build been a mess
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*** If previous doesn't uncover limitation in Java's Httpclient stop shipping Apache Httpclient connector
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* McQ: Message about supporting Open JDK in a blog ... status should be "nice that it works but it's not a reference platform"
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*** Assuming 2 previous complete - look if it makes sense to not have ECF as a dependency at all to skip one cyclic dependency
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'''Jan 13, 2010:''' - John, Dani, McQ, Martin
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* McQ: U Manitoba students to help with technical communication (documentation, website, ...) for e4
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* Dani: New way of contributing Capabilities for Helios... are we OK? - John: yes, Platform Capabilities are in the SDK feature
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** FYI: Incubating projects are
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* Martin: Documenting the Platforms we routinely test on
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** Unittest / Perftest machines are know. When John updated the Reference Platform doc, he made sure that he knows at least one committer on each platform
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** A poll to know what Platform(s) are actively used (by committers) on milestone granularity would be very helpful - John going to set that up
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'''Jan 6, 2010:''' - John, Dani, McQ, Jeff
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* Agreed on 3.5.2 [http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/plans/freeze_plan_3_5_2.php freeze plan]
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** Note RC2 is a week earlier to avoid colliding with Helios M5 week
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* Discussed Helios plan updates 2 {{bug|298200}}
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** Update Java 7 plan item to indicate only working on publicly available bits. Some progress made on getting access to specs but going slowly.
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** Update reference JRE's to latest version of each JRE
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* Jeff will be away for next six weeks (vacation)
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* McQ to contact Steve to see if he still wishes to remain on PMC
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= Archive =
 
= Archive =
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2021 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2021]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2020 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2020]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2019 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2019]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2018 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2018]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2017 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2017]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2016 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2016]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2015 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2015]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2014 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2014]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2013 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2013]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2012 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2012]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2011 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2011]]
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* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2010 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2010]]
 
* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2009 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2009]]
 
* [[Eclipse/PMC/Minutes 2009 | Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2009]]

Latest revision as of 10:39, 28 September 2022

Documents

Some documents written and/or used by the PMC:

Meeting Schedule

The Eclipse Project PMC has a weekly phone meeting every Tuesday at 11.00am EST.

Meeting Minutes

See https://github.com/eclipse-platform/.github/wiki/PMC-Meeting-minutes for new minutes

March 30, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Lars

  • Discussion about simplification of the Github repo structure
  • Currently no plan to provide a Github for user to report issues, we rather
  • For pull request there should no need to open a bug report / GH issue, all present PMC members agreed, to be discussed next week with Jay and MQ.

February 16, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ

  • IP log done for 2022-03, process might be removed by the foundation in the future
  • Auto-closed policy can now be decided by project, project committer can vote on it
  • Support of additional architecture LoongArch and FreeBSD was discussed, for now we expect the builds outside of Eclipse.org for these architures
    • building Eclipse might get easier with planned enhancements in Tycho
  • Bug reports from Bugzilla are not planned to be moved to Github, will continue to exist in Bugzilla


January 19, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, Lars, McQ

January 12, 2022 - Alex, Tom, Jay, McQ

  • Move to PGP signed content news to IDE WG and Planning Council
    • Well received so far
    • 2022-03 to has the implementation, 2022-06 to do full switch
    • we use PGP for content not delivered to Simrel
    • Ed helps with implementation/bug fixes
    • only concern is critical CVE - that would require either help or PGP signed content being pushed to 2022-03
      • To be further discussed if such an issue happens
  • ECF relation
    • Project is heavily under resourced
    • No one knows good reason to still be using Apache Httpclient, Java HttpClient is not tried out and the previous JVM Http code had severe limitations
    • Development falling out on Platform releng for updates to Apache Httpclient, Windows proxy support and etc. is a no-go
    • Possible plan
      • Create Java Httpclient based connector for ECF or enhance the current default one to use Httpclient and not Httpconnection - removes need to update Apache Httpclient dependency, take care of windows specific bundles with JNA dependency and so on
      • If previous doesn't uncover limitation in Java's Httpclient stop shipping Apache Httpclient connector
      • Assuming 2 previous complete - look if it makes sense to not have ECF as a dependency at all to skip one cyclic dependency

Archive

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This page was last modified 10:39, 28 September 2022 by Lars Vogel. Based on work by Alexander Kurtakov, Jayaprakash Arthanareeswaran and McQ and others.

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