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Face to Face meeting at EclipseCon 2010

Attendees

• Motorola (Christian Kurzke, Eric Cloninger, Ruth, Daniel Franco, Guilherme)
• Nokia (Ronnie King, Gorkem (lead ERCP), Warren Paul)
• RIM (Adam Abramski, Jon Dearden, Ken Wallis)
• Symbian (Paul Beusterien)
• Eclipse Foundation (Ian, Doug Schaeffer)

Project representatives:

• MTJ: Christian Kurzke
• Sequoyah: Eric Cloninger
• CDT: Doug Schaeffer
• ERCP: Gorkem

Pulsar review of scope

In the 2009 review, we had 3 main topics: MTJ, CDT and WebTooling, from which we accomplished the MTJ package.

Due to significant changes in the mobile landscape, we should refocus. maybe:

• Java (incl. J2ME, RIM, Android)
• Native (Symbian, Android Native, Meego?)
• Web (Symbian Web UI, etc.)

Ronnie: Should we maintain the focus of Pulsar on a "product".

DougS: proposed a new "mobile" Platform focused plugin fest.

John D: What is our long-term goal, are we creating products or frameworks.

Ian: Successful example: Eclipse "Team Provider" Framework

Ken: Pulsar is solving a too "high level" problem, common code is not used enough. Pulsar should be more of a "portal"

EricC: Who creates a product?: RIM, not strongly branded bundled, and includes a update site. Motodev Studio, installer & update site, Nokia: similar, branded tool.

Driving Commonality

what would member companies want from Pulsar

Nokia: Interest in MTJ (for S40) and Native Symbian development. Also discussons with Meego.

• interest in Native, C++ development:
  • Project Build (signing, multiple targets),
  • Discovery of devices (over BT, USB, wifi, etc),
  • Publishing to developer portals
  • tooling around Meego

• MTJ
  • MIDP 3 support, which would include CDC support

Symbian Foundation:

• Native - similar to Nokia.

• Web Tooling
  • Symbian is looking to fund development of a Web Development environment
    • Chrominum based, support development cycle including packaging, deploy, debug, etc.
  • very cross platform.
  • Ian reached out to JIL (no interest) and BONDI (curious)

Sony Ericsson:

• currently doesnt have a branded product
• interest to improve Android Tooling
  • e.g. Profiling, Code coverage, UI development

RIM:

• Java
  • J2ME+Rim

• Web
  • Widgets (packaged HTML/Javascript) packaging, deployment
  • First class application on device
  • shares packaging, signing, etc.
  • uses JSDT, XUL runner
  • has proprietary debugging protocol between JavaScript engine and IDE (emulator working, device planned)

Possible common features

• Possible SDK management
• Signing
• Common UI code/Frameworks for common tasks
  • Could possibly be shared from WTP project, which already has abstractions / connectors to server infrastructure