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== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
 
* '''Call is Open, Anybody can join.'''
 
* '''Call is Open, Anybody can join.'''
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** Wind River - Doug Schaefer, Martin Oberhuber
* '''Call is Open, Anybody can join.'''
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* Signed up:
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** Wind River - Doug Schaefer, Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf
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** Embarcadero - Kenn Hussey
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** Freescale - Serge Beauchamp
 
** Freescale - Serge Beauchamp
** NVidia - Eric Frey
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** IBM - John Arthorne, Szymon Brandys, Chris Recoskie
** Google - Terry Parker, Tom Ball, Sergey Prigogin
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** IBM - John Arthorne, Szymon Brandys, Pawel Pogorzelski, Mike Wilson, Boris Bokowski, Chris Recoskie,
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** Nokia - Ken Ryall
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** Broadcom - James Blackburn
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== Agenda/Notes ==
 
== Agenda/Notes ==
 
'''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the meeting</font>'''
 
'''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the meeting</font>'''
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* Serge to blog about his changes - will do once tried out with the downloadable e4 builds
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* John: Should make sure to prepare a build for M1 (Feb-6) that actually works (also discussed in the e4 [[E4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20090108]])
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* Chris - {{bug|215261}}: who would care about the new physical/logical API?
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** Intended for external tools (distinguish physical files from stuff in a database / archive / webserver etc)
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** Should not break any existing functionality
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** Doug wants to get rid of special logical/physical handling in CDT
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** Martin: the "adapter" approach seems to be in line with what Java7 file system API does with attributes (PosixAttributes, Win32Attributes, ...): when I know that I need to feed an external tool, try to adapt the IFileStore to an IPhysicalFileStore
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* Doug wants to do "CDT Remote" tutorial at EclipseCon without RSE
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** Chris: Problems with drag&drop / copy&paste from project explorer into remote FS
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** Martin: Needs to file + prioritize RSE bug
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** Doug wants an EFS implementation for quick turnaround / testing - something to drive into e4 resources
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* Special @since tags for API Reports?
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** Martin: might not be necessary thanks to API Tooling Reports, but will continue investigation
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** @since tags: put the version of the bundle (e.g. 3.100); should be easy to search&replace if going for different version number
  
 
=== Review of Action Items ===
 
=== Review of Action Items ===
 
* Last Meeting: [[E4/Resources/Meeting/12-Dec-2008]]
 
* Last Meeting: [[E4/Resources/Meeting/12-Dec-2008]]
** (old) '''Martin''' create SearchCVS service for e4 resources
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** [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Chris''' raised {{bug|215261}} on EFS changes for external tools
** (old) '''Doug''' to work on getting people on IRC
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** [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''John''' check plugins in e4 repository which are not in the Mapfile and purge dead ones
** (old) '''Chris''' to raise bug on EFS changes for external tools
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** [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Serge''' commit {{Bug|229633}} project path variable changes
** (old) '''Serge''' commit {{Bug|229633}} project path variable changes
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** Open items moved to [[#Action Items]]
** '''Doug''' document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform)
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** '''John''' check plugins in e4 repository which are not in the Mapfile and purge dead ones
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** '''Ken''' put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
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** '''Ken''' have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on {{bug|249745}} regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
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** '''Martin''' add mapfile and website projects to the [http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/e4/releng/org.eclipse.e4.resources.releng/e4.resources.psf?view=co e4.resources.psf] team project set
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** '''Martin''' send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list
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** '''Martin''' have Google Calendar send a meeting invite for the next meeting
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=== Status Update ===
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=== Current work items (master bugs) ===
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* {{bug|252647}} - Master plan item for e4 flexible resources (referenced on [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse e3.5 project plan])
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** {{bug|252996}} - Serge: Resource Tree Filters - ''ready to commit to e4 for review''
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** {{bug|245412}} - Martin: Physically nested projects - many related bugs e.g. James Blackburn {{bug|253898}} LaunchManager
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** {{Bug|233939}} - Martin: Alias Management for symlinks - James Blackburn filed {{bug|253912}} common IResource for all aliases
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** {{Bug|229633}} - Serge: Linked resources with relative path / variable-based; grouping feature - will start committing soon
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** {{Bug|253705}} - Szymon: Support for "branched" file systems (EFS for iSeries) - no coding yet but collected some iFS material
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** {{bug|255425}} - Terry: Support for transactions when modifying ProjectDescription
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* Metadata: Sharing/Linking/Inheritance of project settings? Pluggable Project Persistence? What to do for Build stuff
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** Modeled Preferences
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* Faceted Project Framework - Eric Frey been looking at it, looks very interesting on the surface, would like to see it in CDT
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* Lightweight Resources: Terry Parker (tried TPTP now for profiling, now using JProfiler (slows down by 5-10x) - got pulled off into something else
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* Remote File System: Chris Recoskie (currently releasing PTP/RDT, will jump on e4 later, no news)
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** {{bug|253777}} Support async programming patterns in Core
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** EFS Performance: tons of stat requests, should Resource layer do more caching or will we want a caching EFS implementation such as [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00873.html Hadoop DFS]?
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* Workspace Concept Separation
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** '''John''' separate workspace from instance area
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** {{bug|245405}} workspace description files for pushing workspace prefs to team members / facilitated on-boarding
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** {{bug|245399}} multi-workspace
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It looks like we're building things bottom up.
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=== Discussion ===
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* [[E4/Resources/Definitions of Terms]] what is a workspace?
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
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* (old) '''Martin''' create SearchCVS service for e4 resources
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* (old) '''Martin''' add mapfile and website projects to the [http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/e4/releng/org.eclipse.e4.resources.releng/e4.resources.psf?view=co e4.resources.psf] team project set
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* (old) '''Martin''' send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list
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* (old) '''Martin''' have Google Calendar send a meeting invite for the next meeting** (old) '''Doug''' to work on getting people on IRC
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* (old) '''Doug''' document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform)
 +
* (old) '''Ken''' put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
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* (old) '''Ken''' have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on {{bug|249745}} regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
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* '''Serge''' to blog about how to consume his resources changes from the e4 builds
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
* Next [[E4/Resources/Meeting/23-Jan-2009]] (2 weeks after)
 
* Next [[E4/Resources/Meeting/23-Jan-2009]] (2 weeks after)

Latest revision as of 12:39, 9 January 2009

Meeting Title: E4 Resources meeting
Date & Time: Friday Jan 9, 2009 at 1600 UTC / 11am EST / 8am PST
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Attendees

  • Call is Open, Anybody can join.
    • Wind River - Doug Schaefer, Martin Oberhuber
    • Freescale - Serge Beauchamp
    • IBM - John Arthorne, Szymon Brandys, Chris Recoskie

Agenda/Notes

Feel free to edit, but not during the meeting

  • Serge to blog about his changes - will do once tried out with the downloadable e4 builds
  • John: Should make sure to prepare a build for M1 (Feb-6) that actually works (also discussed in the e4 E4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20090108)
  • Chris - bug 215261: who would care about the new physical/logical API?
    • Intended for external tools (distinguish physical files from stuff in a database / archive / webserver etc)
    • Should not break any existing functionality
    • Doug wants to get rid of special logical/physical handling in CDT
    • Martin: the "adapter" approach seems to be in line with what Java7 file system API does with attributes (PosixAttributes, Win32Attributes, ...): when I know that I need to feed an external tool, try to adapt the IFileStore to an IPhysicalFileStore
  • Doug wants to do "CDT Remote" tutorial at EclipseCon without RSE
    • Chris: Problems with drag&drop / copy&paste from project explorer into remote FS
    • Martin: Needs to file + prioritize RSE bug
    • Doug wants an EFS implementation for quick turnaround / testing - something to drive into e4 resources
  • Special @since tags for API Reports?
    • Martin: might not be necessary thanks to API Tooling Reports, but will continue investigation
    • @since tags: put the version of the bundle (e.g. 3.100); should be easy to search&replace if going for different version number

Review of Action Items

Action Items

  • (old) Martin create SearchCVS service for e4 resources
  • (old) Martin add mapfile and website projects to the e4.resources.psf team project set
  • (old) Martin send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list
  • (old) Martin have Google Calendar send a meeting invite for the next meeting** (old) Doug to work on getting people on IRC
  • (old) Doug document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform)
  • (old) Ken put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
  • (old) Ken have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on bug 249745 regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
  • Serge to blog about how to consume his resources changes from the e4 builds

Next Meeting

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