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== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
* '''Call is Open, Anybody can join.'''
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* Signed up:
 
* Signed up:
** Wind River - Doug Schaefer, Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf
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** Wind River - Doug Schaefer, Martin Oberhuber
** Embarcadero - Kenn Hussey
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** Freescale - Serge Beauchamp
 
** Freescale - Serge Beauchamp
** NVidia - Eric Frey
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** IBM - John Arthorne, Chris Recoskie
** Google - Terry Parker, Tom Ball, Sergey Prigogin
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** SAP -  
** IBM - John Arthorne, Szymon Brandys, Pawel Pogorzelski, Mike Wilson, Boris Bokowski, Chris Recoskie,
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** Nokia - Ken Ryall
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** Broadcom - James Blackburn
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== Agenda/Notes ==
 
== Agenda/Notes ==
 
'''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the meeting</font>'''
 
'''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the meeting</font>'''
  
=== Review of Action Items ===
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* '''Martin''' - Update from yesterday's [[e4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20090122]] call:
* Last Meeting: [[E4/Resources/Meeting/9-Jan-2009]]
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** Request that the Resources team inform the e4 UI team about any "user-visible" changes or changes in workflow. We should strive for consistency, and a single "story" of getting things done rather than multiple competing concepts.
* (old) '''Martin''' create SearchCVS service for e4 resources
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** '''John''' has direct contact to Kevin McGuire and can act as the link, install e4 with serge's patches and show it to Kevin
* (old) '''Martin''' add mapfile and website projects to the [http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/e4/releng/org.eclipse.e4.resources.releng/e4.resources.psf?view=co e4.resources.psf] team project set
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** M1 (feb 6) build will go on the EclipseCon stick, so if we want to show anything it should go in there
* (old) '''Martin''' send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list
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* (old) '''Martin''' have Google Calendar send a meeting invite for the next meeting** (old) '''Doug''' to work on getting people on IRC
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* (old) '''Doug''' document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform)
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* (old) '''Ken''' put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
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* (old) '''Ken''' have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on {{bug|249745}} regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
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* '''Serge''' to blog about how to consume his resources changes from the e4 builds
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* Open items moved to [[#Action Items]]
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=== Current work items (master bugs) ===
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* '''Serge''' to backport his changes for {{bug|252996}} resource filters, {{Bug|229633}} virtual groups and relative links into 3.5 ?
* {{bug|252647}} - Master plan item for e4 flexible resources (referenced on [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse e3.5 project plan])
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** John: Serge's current e4 work can be installed into 3.5, so if products want to leverage that they can install it into a 3.5 product
** {{bug|252996}} - Serge: Resource Tree Filters - ''ready to commit to e4 for review''
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** Could see the work backported in early 3.6
** {{bug|245412}} - Martin: Physically nested projects - many related bugs e.g. James Blackburn {{bug|253898}} LaunchManager
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** Proper support of the infrastructure (drag and drop, etc) requires changes in many other plugins... how to announce that? How to get those other bundles modified for e4? - '''AI Serge''' send an E-Mail to the e4 list
** {{Bug|233939}} - Martin: Alias Management for symlinks - James Blackburn filed {{bug|253912}} common IResource for all aliases
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*** John: We can accept more plugins in e4, but the more we have the more merge issues we'll have. If Eric Moffat already has a repository for his backward compatibility work, we should re-use his bundles
** {{Bug|229633}} - Serge: Linked resources with relative path / variable-based; grouping feature - will start committing soon
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*** Martin: experiment with better tooling for merges such as git - behind the scenes as a start
** {{Bug|253705}} - Szymon: Support for "branched" file systems (EFS for iSeries) - no coding yet but collected some iFS material
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** {{bug|255425}} - Terry: Support for transactions when modifying ProjectDescription
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** {{bug|215261}} - Chris: EFS logical/physical API
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* Metadata: Sharing/Linking/Inheritance of project settings? Pluggable Project Persistence? What to do for Build stuff
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** {{bug|255371}} Modeled Preferences
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* Faceted Project Framework - Eric Frey been looking at it, looks very interesting on the surface, would like to see it in CDT
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* Lightweight Resources: Terry Parker (tried TPTP now for profiling, now using JProfiler (slows down by 5-10x) - got pulled off into something else
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* Remote File System: Chris Recoskie (currently releasing PTP/RDT, will jump on e4 later, no news)
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** {{bug|253777}} Support async programming patterns in Core
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** EFS Performance: tons of stat requests, should Resource layer do more caching or will we want a caching EFS implementation such as [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00873.html Hadoop DFS]?
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* Workspace Concept Separation
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** '''John''' separate workspace from instance area
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** {{bug|245405}} workspace description files for pushing workspace prefs to team members / facilitated on-boarding
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** {{bug|245399}} multi-workspace
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It looks like we're building things bottom up.
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* '''Chris''' - discussion on {{bug|215261}} physical store stuff
  
=== Discussion ===
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* '''Doug''' - still wants to do a simple EFS implementation for remote (next week)
  
* [[E4/Resources/Definitions of Terms]] what is a workspace?
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=== Review of Action Items ===
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* Last Meeting: [[E4/Resources/Meeting/9-Jan-2009]]
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Martin''' add mapfile and website projects to the [http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/e4/releng/org.eclipse.e4.resources.releng/e4.resources.psf?view=co e4.resources.psf] team project set
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* Open items moved to [[#Action Items]]
  
 
== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
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* (old) '''Martin''' create SearchCVS service for e4 resources - started on database, query missing '''AI mail e4-dev'''
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* (old) '''Martin''' send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list - pending {{bug|261874}} AC discussion about provisional API
 +
* (old) '''Martin''' have Google Calendar send a meeting invite for the next meeting - pending webmaster setup in mailing list admin interface
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* (old) '''Doug''' to work on getting people on IRC - pending WR IT
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* (old) '''Doug''' document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform) - '''AI Serge''' to send E-Mail
 +
* (old) '''Ken''' put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
 +
* (old) '''Ken''' have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on {{bug|249745}} regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
 +
* (old) '''Serge''' to blog about how to consume his resources changes from the e4 builds
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* '''John''' to show Serge's work to Kevin
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* '''Serge''' to e-mail e4-dev about adding changes to more (UI) bundles in support of his resources changes
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
* Next [[E4/Resources/Meeting/6-Feb-2009]] (2 weeks after)
 
* Next [[E4/Resources/Meeting/6-Feb-2009]] (2 weeks after)

Latest revision as of 12:43, 23 January 2009

Meeting Title: E4 Resources meeting
Date & Time: Friday Jan 23, 2009 at 1600 UTC / 11am EST / 8am PST
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Attendees

  • Signed up:
    • Wind River - Doug Schaefer, Martin Oberhuber
    • Freescale - Serge Beauchamp
    • IBM - John Arthorne, Chris Recoskie
    • SAP -

Agenda/Notes

Feel free to edit, but not during the meeting

  • Martin - Update from yesterday's e4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20090122 call:
    • Request that the Resources team inform the e4 UI team about any "user-visible" changes or changes in workflow. We should strive for consistency, and a single "story" of getting things done rather than multiple competing concepts.
    • John has direct contact to Kevin McGuire and can act as the link, install e4 with serge's patches and show it to Kevin
    • M1 (feb 6) build will go on the EclipseCon stick, so if we want to show anything it should go in there
  • Serge to backport his changes for bug 252996 resource filters, bug 229633 virtual groups and relative links into 3.5 ?
    • John: Serge's current e4 work can be installed into 3.5, so if products want to leverage that they can install it into a 3.5 product
    • Could see the work backported in early 3.6
    • Proper support of the infrastructure (drag and drop, etc) requires changes in many other plugins... how to announce that? How to get those other bundles modified for e4? - AI Serge send an E-Mail to the e4 list
      • John: We can accept more plugins in e4, but the more we have the more merge issues we'll have. If Eric Moffat already has a repository for his backward compatibility work, we should re-use his bundles
      • Martin: experiment with better tooling for merges such as git - behind the scenes as a start
  • Chris - discussion on bug 215261 physical store stuff
  • Doug - still wants to do a simple EFS implementation for remote (next week)

Review of Action Items

Action Items

  • (old) Martin create SearchCVS service for e4 resources - started on database, query missing AI mail e4-dev
  • (old) Martin send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list - pending bug 261874 AC discussion about provisional API
  • (old) Martin have Google Calendar send a meeting invite for the next meeting - pending webmaster setup in mailing list admin interface
  • (old) Doug to work on getting people on IRC - pending WR IT
  • (old) Doug document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform) - AI Serge to send E-Mail
  • (old) Ken put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
  • (old) Ken have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on bug 249745 regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
  • (old) Serge to blog about how to consume his resources changes from the e4 builds
  • John to show Serge's work to Kevin
  • Serge to e-mail e4-dev about adding changes to more (UI) bundles in support of his resources changes

Next Meeting

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