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== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
* '''Call is Open, Anybody can join.'''
 
 
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* Signed up:
 
* Signed up:
** Wind River - Doug Schaefer, Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf
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** Wind River - Martin Oberhuber
** Embarcadero - Kenn Hussey
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** Google - Terry Parker
** Freescale - Serge Beauchamp
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** IBM - Szymon Brandys, John Arthorne
** NVidia - Eric Frey
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** Google - Terry Parker, Tom Ball, Sergey Prigogin
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** IBM - John Arthorne, Szymon Brandys, Pawel Pogorzelski, Mike Wilson, Boris Bokowski, Chris Recoskie,
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** Nokia - Ken Ryall
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** Broadcom - James Blackburn
 
** Broadcom - James Blackburn
** SAP -
 
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== Agenda/Notes ==
 
== Agenda/Notes ==
 
'''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the meeting</font>'''
 
'''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the meeting</font>'''
* [[IRC]]: #eclipse-e4 parallel to the meeting
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* [[IRC]] irc://#eclipse-e4 parallel to the meeting
* Martin: Nothing new from last [[e4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20090319]] call
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* Update from yesterday's [[e4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20090319]] call
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** Martin: Resources are the only ones who are branching. Lets fix our merge strategies among ourselves.
 +
** Serge talked about Common Navigator changes - '''AI Serge''' to open bug to continue discussion.
 +
 
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* Status of {{bug|268107}} merging up to m6
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** Szymon - 30..40 files to review, knew all the changes, just 10-15 minutes;
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** Szymon is fine with merging resources part weekly on green I-build; UI part is likely more painful sine changes not known
 +
** James to merge the UI part with git?
 +
** Paul Webster proposes using a branch in e4 -- allows using
 +
*** Suggest talking at the e4 bof
 +
 
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* John hopes that split stream situation is only for a brief period -- suggests moving stuff early into 3.6
 +
** UI merge set should be small after m7
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** Only fork if we really think we want to work on it right away -- dont fork unnecessarily
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*** Maybe do Common Navigator work in e4 after M7
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** Repositories are separate because IP rules are weaker in e4 as its incubating
  
 
=== Review of Action Items ===
 
=== Review of Action Items ===
 
* Last Meeting: [[E4/Resources/Meeting/6-Mar-2009]]
 
* Last Meeting: [[E4/Resources/Meeting/6-Mar-2009]]
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Doug''' document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform) -- documented now on [[e4/Install]] as well as [http://sergebeauchamp.blogspot.com/2009/01/latest-e4-resource-changes.html Serge's blog] both of which are prominently referenced from [[e4]]
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''John''' to show Serge's work to Kevin -- Kevin looked at [http://sergebeauchamp.blogspot.com/2009/01/latest-e4-resource-changes.html Serge's blog] which was sufficient
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Szymon''' add background info on {{bug|253705}} support for branched file systems - can give more info on request
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''James''' create [[Git for Committers#Merging HEAD changes to e4]] with simple instructions how to get git up and running as a committer
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Martin''' to ask on e4-dev for cloning CNF into e4 repository as soon as possible (John to do it?)
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Martin''' to ask Ken Ryall about his action items
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Martin, Serge,''' to CC on bugzilla e4.resources-inbox@eclipse.org (using [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/userprefs.cgi bugzilla preferences])
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** No clear process; Occasionally open all inbox and sort by most recently changed
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** Not much traffic so it's relatively easy to track - only 8 open at the moment
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* Open items moved to [[#Action Items]]
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== Action Items ==
 
* (old) '''Martin''' create SearchCVS service for e4 resources - started on database, query missing '''AI mail e4-dev'''
 
* (old) '''Martin''' create SearchCVS service for e4 resources - started on database, query missing '''AI mail e4-dev'''
 
* (old) '''Martin''' send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list - pending {{bug|261874}} AC discussion about provisional API
 
* (old) '''Martin''' send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list - pending {{bug|261874}} AC discussion about provisional API
* (old) '''Doug''' document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform)
 
 
* (old) '''Ken''' put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
 
* (old) '''Ken''' put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
 
* (old) '''Ken''' have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on {{bug|249745}} regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
 
* (old) '''Ken''' have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on {{bug|249745}} regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
* (old) '''John''' to show Serge's work to Kevin
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* '''Serge''' to open bug for forking common navigator into e4
* '''Szymon''' add background info on {{bug|253705}} support for branched file systems
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* '''James''' create a Wiki page with simple instructions how to get git up and running as a committer
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* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Martin''' to ask on e4-dev for cloning CNF into e4 repository as soon as possible (John to do it?)
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* '''Martin''' to ask Ken Ryall about his action items
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* '''Martin, Serge''' to CC on bugzilla e4.resources-inbox@eclipse.org (using [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/userprefs.cgi bugzilla preferences])
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* Open items moved to [[#Action Items]]
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=== Discussion ===
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* '''Serge Groups''': CNF DND?
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=== Current work items (master bugs) ===
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* {{bug|252647}} - Master plan item for e4 flexible resources (referenced on [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse e3.5 project plan])
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** {{bug|252996}} - Serge: Resource Tree Filters - ''in e4 currently''
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** {{Bug|229633}} - Serge: Linked resources with relative path / variable-based; grouping feature - ''in e4 currently''
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** {{bug|245412}} - Martin: Physically nested projects - many related bugs e.g. James Blackburn {{bug|253898}} LaunchManager
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** {{Bug|233939}} - Martin: Alias Management for symlinks - James Blackburn filed {{bug|253912}} common IResource for all aliases
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** {{Bug|244979}} - Martin: Lazy Refresh
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** {{Bug|253705}} - Szymon: Support for "branched" file systems (EFS for iSeries) - no coding yet but collected some iFS material
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** {{bug|255425}} - Terry: Support for transactions when modifying ProjectDescription
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** {{bug|215261}} - Chris: EFS logical/physical API
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* Metadata: Sharing/Linking/Inheritance of project settings? Pluggable Project Persistence? What to do for Build stuff
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** {{bug|255371}} Modeled Preferences
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* Faceted Project Framework - Eric Frey been looking at it, looks very interesting on the surface, would like to see it in CDT
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* Lightweight Resources: Terry Parker (tried TPTP now for profiling, now using JProfiler (slows down by 5-10x) - got pulled off into something else
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* Remote File System: Chris Recoskie (currently releasing PTP/RDT, will jump on e4 later, no news)
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** {{bug|253777}} Support async programming patterns in Core
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** EFS Performance: tons of stat requests, should Resource layer do more caching or will we want a caching EFS implementation such as [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00873.html Hadoop DFS]?
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* Workspace Concept Separation
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** '''John''' separate workspace from instance area bug - see [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=245399#c2 bug 245399 comment 2]
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** {{bug|245405}} workspace description files for pushing workspace prefs to team members / facilitated on-boarding
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** {{bug|245399}} multi-workspace
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* [[E4/Resources/Definitions of Terms]] what is a workspace?
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It looks like we're building things bottom up.
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== Action Items ==
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== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
* Next [[E4/Resources/Meeting/3-Apr-2009]] (2 weeks after)
 
* Next [[E4/Resources/Meeting/3-Apr-2009]] (2 weeks after)

Latest revision as of 11:35, 20 March 2009

Meeting Title: E4 Resources meeting
Date & Time: Friday Mar 20, 2009 at 1500 UTC / 11am EST / 8am PST
Ical.gifiCal,Xml.gifATOM News Feed,Html.gifHTML
Canada and US Toll Free: (866) 740-7083
International Dial-in: +1 (702) 696-4217 (more numbers here)
Conference ID: 613 277 0037 #

Attendees

  • Signed up:
    • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber
    • Google - Terry Parker
    • IBM - Szymon Brandys, John Arthorne
    • Broadcom - James Blackburn

Agenda/Notes

Feel free to edit, but not during the meeting

  • IRC irc://#eclipse-e4 parallel to the meeting
  • Update from yesterday's e4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20090319 call
    • Martin: Resources are the only ones who are branching. Lets fix our merge strategies among ourselves.
    • Serge talked about Common Navigator changes - AI Serge to open bug to continue discussion.
  • Status of bug 268107 merging up to m6
    • Szymon - 30..40 files to review, knew all the changes, just 10-15 minutes;
    • Szymon is fine with merging resources part weekly on green I-build; UI part is likely more painful sine changes not known
    • James to merge the UI part with git?
    • Paul Webster proposes using a branch in e4 -- allows using
      • Suggest talking at the e4 bof
  • John hopes that split stream situation is only for a brief period -- suggests moving stuff early into 3.6
    • UI merge set should be small after m7
    • Only fork if we really think we want to work on it right away -- dont fork unnecessarily
      • Maybe do Common Navigator work in e4 after M7
    • Repositories are separate because IP rules are weaker in e4 as its incubating

Review of Action Items

  • Last Meeting: E4/Resources/Meeting/6-Mar-2009
  • Ok green.gif Doug document how users can get e4 resources (what's the required process and target platform) -- documented now on e4/Install as well as Serge's blog both of which are prominently referenced from e4
  • Ok green.gif John to show Serge's work to Kevin -- Kevin looked at Serge's blog which was sufficient
  • Ok green.gif Szymon add background info on bug 253705 support for branched file systems - can give more info on request
  • Ok green.gif James create Git for Committers#Merging HEAD changes to e4 with simple instructions how to get git up and running as a committer
  • Ok green.gif Martin to ask on e4-dev for cloning CNF into e4 repository as soon as possible (John to do it?)
  • Ok green.gif Martin to ask Ken Ryall about his action items
  • Ok green.gif Martin, Serge, to CC on bugzilla e4.resources-inbox@eclipse.org (using bugzilla preferences)
    • No clear process; Occasionally open all inbox and sort by most recently changed
    • Not much traffic so it's relatively easy to track - only 8 open at the moment
  • Open items moved to #Action Items

Action Items

  • (old) Martin create SearchCVS service for e4 resources - started on database, query missing AI mail e4-dev
  • (old) Martin send a proposal regarding experimental API tagging policy to the e4 mailing list - pending bug 261874 AC discussion about provisional API
  • (old) Ken put references to bugs which are interesting for him into the meeting notes
  • (old) Ken have somebody from Symbian Foundation comment on bug 249745 regarding their experiences with git and Mercurial
  • Serge to open bug for forking common navigator into e4

Next Meeting

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