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Difference between revisions of "DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 3-Sep-2008"

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=== Update on RSE Status ===
 
=== Update on RSE Status ===
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* TM 3.0 Release: [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/relnotes/3.0/tm-news-3.0.html New&Noteworthy], [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/relnotes/3.0/readme_tm_3.0.html Release Notes], Build Process, Bugzilla
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* Ganymede TM Video: features to show beyond what we have in our N&N?
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** Is the information that we give enough? (New&Noteworthy); build notes accurate until M6 only, some API changes + feature additions likely missing. Also, the concept of referencing build notes from download.eclipse.org is problematic since milestones are moved to archive.eclipse.org and even deleted eventually --> need a "summary of build notes" on a more persistent place
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* {{Bug|238574}} Website Revamp? We have a bugzilla "Website" component now
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** Ganymede TM Video: features to show beyond what we have in our N&N?
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* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major] open bugs, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor High Priority] open bugs, [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Known Issues and Workarounds]]
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** {{Bug|238574}} Website Revamp? We have a bugzilla "Website" component now
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* EFS deadlock problems during early startup currently being discussed, {{Bug|239230}}
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major] open bugs, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor High Priority] open bugs, [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Known Issues and Workarounds]]
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** EFS deadlock problems during early startup currently being discussed, {{Bug|239230}}
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* '''TM 3.0.1 Build Schedule'''
 
* '''TM 3.0.1 Build Schedule'''
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** Focus on keeping and improving reliability since WR and IBM will pick up 3.0.1 into commercial products
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* {{Bug|196176}} - Deferred drag&drop from RSE to Windows Explorer is possible but it needs more work and collaboration with the SWT team. We need to find out how to report progress for the background file transfer.
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** Continue working in HEAD with care; will likely fork off a maintenance-only branch in August
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** Can patch SWT + RSE to try it out (win32 only): when patching SWT, may have issues with other drag&drop operations. Currently all D&D is async, would need API flag whether async is wanted or not
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** {{Bug|172483}} Secondary Terminals for TM 3.0.1 ? - No objections against 3.0.1
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** Proof of concept for now, need feedback / opinions about this approach
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** {{Bug|238773}} WinCE RAPI enhancement for calling remote methods for 3.0.1 ? - Will continue in HEAD but not release into the Mapfiles
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** {{Bug|196176}} - Deferred drag&drop from RSE to Windows Explorer is possible but it needs more work and collaboration with the SWT team. We need to find out how to report progress for the background file transfer.
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*** Can patch SWT + RSE to try it out (win32 only): when patching SWT, may have issues with other drag&drop operations. Currently all D&D is async, would need API flag whether async is wanted or not
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*** Proof of concept for now, need feedback / opinions about this approach
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* '''Bugzilla Target Milestone''': use the "3.0.1" milestone for what "will be fixed" or what "can be fixed" in 3.0.1 ?
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** Will do same as last year: use "3.0.1" for "can be fixed" even if we cannot handle all
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** Committers please update target milestone of your [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bugidtype=include&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&classification=DSDP&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field-1-0-0=classification&field-1-1-0=product&field-1-2-0=target_milestone&field-1-3-0=bug_status&field0-0-0=noop&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&product=Target%20Management&query_format=advanced&remaction=&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&target_milestone=3.0&target_milestone=3.0%20M3&target_milestone=3.0%20M4&target_milestone=3.0%20M5&target_milestone=3.0%20M6&target_milestone=3.0%20M7&target_milestone=3.0%20RC1&target_milestone=3.0%20RC2&target_milestone=3.0%20RC3&target_milestone=3.0%20RC4&target_milestone=3.0%20RC5&type-1-0-0=anyexact&type-1-1-0=anyexact&type-1-2-0=anyexact&type-1-3-0=anyexact&type0-0-0=noop&value-1-0-0=DSDP&value-1-1-0=Target%20Management&value-1-2-0=3.0%2C3.0%20M3%2C3.0%20M4%2C3.0%20M5%2C3.0%20M6%2C3.0%20M7%2C3.0%20RC1%2C3.0%20RC2%2C3.0%20RC3%2C3.0%20RC4%2C3.0%20RC5&value-1-3-0=UNCONFIRMED%2CNEW%2CASSIGNED%2CREOPENED&value0-0-0=&votes=&order=map_assigned_to.login_name%2Cbugs.priority%2Cbugs.priority%2Cbugs.bug_severity%2Cmap_assigned_to.login_name%2Cbugs.bug_status%2Cbugs.priority%2Cbugs.bug_id&query_based_on= 3.0 assigned bugs] (currently 98)
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** Use "Edit Query" to show only yours, then query, then "Change Several Bugs at Once"
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=== TCF and other initiatives Status ===
 
=== TCF and other initiatives Status ===
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* '''Target Communication Framework''' - [[DSDP/TM/TCF FAQ]] available and approved by EMO. Now working on SVN Repository at Eclipse.org. EclipseCon Tutorial and Short Talk available from [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm TM Homepage]
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* '''Target Communication Framework''' - [[DSDP/TM/TCF FAQ]] available and plan theme, shooting for 1.0 under discussion. EDL approved for the Agent. Community interest growing
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* EPL / EDL dual licensing approved by Eclipse Board for the TCF Agent. Creating new CQ and changing the Copyright / about files now.
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* Picked up TM 3.0 and DD-DSF 1.0 so it's compatible with Ganymede now
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* {{Bug|238564}} has some very good notes about migrating from TM 2.0 to TM 3.0
 
* {{Bug|238564}} has some very good notes about migrating from TM 2.0 to TM 3.0
 
* Working towards scheduled builds and downloadable artifacts.
 
* Working towards scheduled builds and downloadable artifacts.
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=== Operations ===
 
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* Anna introduction - working for MV in Moscow, Russia
 
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* Newsgroup Duty
 
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* The new iplog+ flag: [[Development Resources/Automatic IP Log]], {{Bug|233291}}, {{Bug|220977}}
 
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** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=dsdp.tm Automatic IP Log for TM] doesn't work yet due to a bug in the generator (won't accept space char in bugzilla project name)
 
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** But we should be prepared to do automatic log, so we should fully comply
 
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** '''Mark any Patch or other Attachment''' that's contributed with '''iplog+''' when it is committed into CVS
 
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** '''Mark the Bug''' with iplog+ if a contribution comes in as bugzilla comment
 
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** In addition to that, for now, please also mark the bug with the "contributed" keyword (that's the legacy way of doing things) and edit the manual tm-log.csv. I know it's painful but I'd like to continue doing so until the automated log works for us.
 
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=== TM 3.1 / Future Planning ===
 
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* '''Project Plan Status''' - New XML project plan format available, incubation of plan on the [[TM Future Planning]] Wiki
 
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** Bugzilla plan items as well as an "official" project plan will be done
 
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** Wind River: Focus on TCF; RSE bug-fixes and quality; Multi-System/Connection Grouping
 
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** IBM: RSE bug-fixes and quality; EFS; Import/Export of Profiles
 
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** Prosyst: WinCE (but not going to adopt RSE for now)
 
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** Rado private: SWT deferred drag&drop;
 
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** Anna/MV: RSE Terminals; have Shell Processes work with Terminal only (would like in 3.0.1); more integration of RSE with CDT and DD
 
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** ?? UI/Non-UI splitting;
 
  
 
=== Community Feedback and Status ===
 
=== Community Feedback and Status ===
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=== New Action Items ===
 
=== New Action Items ===
 
* All committers fix target milestone of bugs assigned to 3.0
 
* All committers fix target milestone of bugs assigned to 3.0
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* '''Martin''' review Rado's deferred D&D
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* '''Martin''' '''old''' review Rado's deferred D&D
  
 
=== Next Meeting ===
 
=== Next Meeting ===
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Sep-2008]] (2 weeks after)
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Sep-2008]] (2 weeks after)
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 1-Oct-2008]] (4 weeks after)
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 1-Oct-2008]] (4 weeks after)

Revision as of 08:09, 19 August 2008

Meeting Title: Conference Call on Target Management
Date & Time: Wednesday Sep 3, 2008 at 1600 UTC / 9am PST
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Invited Attendees

This meeting is free for everyone to attend. It's a service of the TM developers and committers to community, fostering exchange of upcoming news, status and asking questions. We specially encourage those people to attend who are actively working on, or have shown interest in TM before:

  • Committers:
    • IBM - Xuan Chen, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight
    • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
    • Private - Javier Montalvo Orus
    • ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
    • MontaVista - Anna Dushistova
  • Others:
    • LANL / PTP Project - Greg Watson
    • ARM - Anthony Berent
    • TI - Dobrin Alexey
    • Motorola - Maureen Brenner, Fabio Fantato, Daniel Franco, Christian Kurzke, Ruth Soliani
    • Accelerated Technology - Aaron Spear, Mark Bozeman
    • Freescale - Kirk Beitz

Actual Attendees

Agenda

Last Meetings

Update on RSE Status

  • Ganymede TM Video: features to show beyond what we have in our N&N?
  • bug 238574 Website Revamp? We have a bugzilla "Website" component now
  • Severity Major open bugs, High Priority open bugs, DSDP/TM/3.0 Known Issues and Workarounds
  • EFS deadlock problems during early startup currently being discussed, bug 239230
  • TM 3.0.1 Build Schedule
  • bug 196176 - Deferred drag&drop from RSE to Windows Explorer is possible but it needs more work and collaboration with the SWT team. We need to find out how to report progress for the background file transfer.
    • Can patch SWT + RSE to try it out (win32 only): when patching SWT, may have issues with other drag&drop operations. Currently all D&D is async, would need API flag whether async is wanted or not
    • Proof of concept for now, need feedback / opinions about this approach

TCF and other initiatives Status

  • Target Communication Framework - DSDP/TM/TCF FAQ available and plan theme, shooting for 1.0 under discussion. EDL approved for the Agent. Community interest growing
  • bug 238564 has some very good notes about migrating from TM 2.0 to TM 3.0
  • Working towards scheduled builds and downloadable artifacts.

Community Feedback and Status

  • Community contributions
    • Patrick Juhl - SSH Tunnel - no news

Technology sub-groups

Vacations, Next Meetings

  • Vacations, away times
  • Questions

Action Items to Review

New Action Items

  • All committers fix target milestone of bugs assigned to 3.0
  • Martin old review Rado's deferred D&D

Next Meeting

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