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| Wednesday [[Dec 3, 2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=12&day=3&year=2008&hour=17&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 1700 UTC / 9am PST]<br>[[Image:Html.gif]][http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=vn70im36r00qeusu8nme50cils@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Canada/Toronto HTML] | [[Image:Ical.gif]][http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/vn70im36r00qeusu8nme50cils@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics iCal]
 
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== Invited Attendees ==
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== Attendees ==
  
This meeting is free for everyone to attend. It's a service of the TM developers and committers to community, fostering exchange of upcoming news, status and asking questions. We specially encourage those people to attend who are actively working on, or have shown interest in TM before:
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This meeting is free for everyone to attend. It's a service of the TM developers and committers to community, fostering exchange of upcoming news, status and asking questions. Committers are expected to attend.
  
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* Committers:
 
* Committers:
 
** IBM - Xuan Chen, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight
 
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** Accelerated Technology - Aaron Spear, Mark Bozeman
 
** Accelerated Technology - Aaron Spear, Mark Bozeman
 
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** Freescale - Kirk Beitz
 
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== Actual Attendees ==
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== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
  
 
=== Last Meetings ===
 
=== Last Meetings ===
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* Last [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 26-Nov-2008]]
 
* Last [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 5-Nov-2008]]
 
* Last [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 5-Nov-2008]]
* Last [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Nov-2008]]
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* Skype Call Quality
  
 
=== Update on RSE Status ===
 
=== Update on RSE Status ===
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==== TM 3.0.2 ====
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* No changes planned this week, 3.0.2 release planned for Dec.5
  
 
==== TM 3.1 ====
 
==== TM 3.1 ====
 
* [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.tm TM 3.1 plan], along with a [[DSDP/TM/3.1 Ramp down Plan]]
 
* [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.tm TM 3.1 plan], along with a [[DSDP/TM/3.1 Ramp down Plan]]
 
** Remove EFS from the project plan, ok for everyone?
 
** Remove EFS from the project plan, ok for everyone?
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** {{bug|227750}} IRSEPersistenceProvider
 
** Early startup, {{Bug|239230}} OK now?
 
** Early startup, {{Bug|239230}} OK now?
 
** {{Bug|196176}} - Deferred drag&drop SWT bug - need to find out how to report progress for the background file transfer, Rado?
 
** {{Bug|196176}} - Deferred drag&drop SWT bug - need to find out how to report progress for the background file transfer, Rado?
* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major] open bugs, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor High Priority] open  
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* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major] open bugs, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor High Priority] open bugs, [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Known Issues and Workarounds]]
bugs, [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Known Issues and Workarounds]]
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* [[Galileo Simultaneous Release#Requirements For Participation]]: Participate in Babel (done)
 
* [[Galileo Simultaneous Release#Requirements For Participation]]: Participate in Babel (done)
 
** Get rid of Platform "internal" usage - IBM Product work hopefully winding down next month, schedule some time in Dec/Jan
 
** Get rid of Platform "internal" usage - IBM Product work hopefully winding down next month, schedule some time in Dec/Jan
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** Basic Capability / Activity definitions
 
** Basic Capability / Activity definitions
 
* Many patches on bugzilla, feel free to commit to 3.1 stream... avoid too many patches
 
* Many patches on bugzilla, feel free to commit to 3.1 stream... avoid too many patches
 
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** Community contributions: 38 [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open bugs with patches] right now, should apply before patches get outdated (see also the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] for a query)
==== TM 3.0.2 ====
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* Need a fixed date for 3.0.2 -- mid december? - '''AI DaveM''' follow up with product team to get exact date
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* Need to release into the Mapfile for M-builds to pick up fixes
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* Testing: give 3 weeks for product teams to test, no official open source testing
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==== Other Stuff ====
 
==== Other Stuff ====
* {{Bug|238574}} Website Revamp? We have a bugzilla "Website" component now
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* {{Bug|238574}} Website Revamp - image from the Community is good, need some time to revamp the contents
 
* '''Target Communication Framework''' - [[DSDP/TM/TCF FAQ]] available and plan theme, shooting for 1.0 under discussion.
 
* '''Target Communication Framework''' - [[DSDP/TM/TCF FAQ]] available and plan theme, shooting for 1.0 under discussion.
* Bugs [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M5&target_milestone=3.0+M6&target_milestone=3.0+M7&target_milestone=3.0+RC1&target_milestone=3.0+RC2&target_milestone=3.0+RC3&target_milestone=3.0+RC4&target_milestone=3.0+RC5&target_milestone=3.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit still assigned to 3.0] -- Xuan, DaveD!
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* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0&target_milestone=3.0.1&target_milestone=3.1+M2&target_milestone=3.1+M3&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit 3.1M3 Assigned Open bugs] - '''AI Everyone''' reassign target milestone as appropriate
 
* Abbot pretty much dead -- looking at SWTBot now
 
* Abbot pretty much dead -- looking at SWTBot now
 
* Unittests, Findbugs?
 
* Unittests, Findbugs?
  
 
==== Individual Status ====
 
==== Individual Status ====
* Martin mostly switching to Platform/Core, E4 and EAC and RXTX work. For TM doing bug reviews, releng, and few selected fixes as interesting for WR.
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* '''Anna''': Now also contributing to TCF
* DaveD - will look at M3 assigned bugs, product work winding down
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* '''DaveD''': Back to RSE next week
* DaveM - continuing 60% fixes on open RSE
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* '''DaveM''': Focusing on 3.0.2 work, 70% open RSE
* Kevin - catching up on backport reviews, fair amount on open RSE
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* '''Kevin''': Reviewing 3.0.2 stuff, reviewing search bug for backport
* Xuan - mostly product work but winding down, helping Kevin on reviews, start looking on own bugs
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* '''Xuan''': Reviewing Useraction stuff from Kevin for 3.0.2 - planning to fix Junit issue
* Anna - mostly on generic Terminal / Telnet, but without automatic service creation via adapter (Telnet and SSH only for now)
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* '''Martin''': RSE reviewing changes, want to
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* '''Rado''': Cancel-copy, WinCE
  
 
=== Community Feedback and Status ===
 
=== Community Feedback and Status ===
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=== Technology sub-groups ===
 
=== Technology sub-groups ===
  
== Vacations, Next Meetings ==
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=== '''Old Stuff''' ===
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* {{Bug|240991}} Startup creates Display on Worker Thread
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** Workarounds seem to be good for now. Martin would prefer experimenting with IRSEPersistenceProvider in HEAD
  
* Vacations, away times
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* Unittests
** DaveD, Martin last week of dec and 1st week of Jan
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** {{Bug|230917}} [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- '''AI Xuan''' look at
* Questions
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=== Action Items ===
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* Findbugs and other cleanup
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 5-Nov-2008]]
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** Broken Links in Docs: Xenu's LinkSleuth
* Last [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Nov-2008]]
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* '''Martin''' '''old''' review {{bug|196176}} Rado's deferred D&D
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* Martin - modify Wiki template for using Skype on monthly calls; contact Rado; remove EFS from project plan
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* Xuan, DaveD - get rid of 3.0 assigned open bugs
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* DaveM - come up with 3.0.2 release date
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* '''Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests'''
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** Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
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** Current situation is on [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=&y_axis_field=assigned_to&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2007-09-17&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&format=table&action=wrap&negate0=1&field0-0-0=resolution&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=DUPLICATE this bugzilla report]
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==== Cleanup Work ====
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* Unittests, unittests, unittests! -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
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* Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?)
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* Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
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* Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated
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* Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
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* Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
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* Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg01869.html tm-dev E-Mail]
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** Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss [https://mailman.cs.umd.edu/pipermail/findbugs-discuss/2008-May/002374.html link]
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* Stuff for 3.1
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** API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - cannot limit existing API more than it was before, unless it was textually documented already, but can deprecate stuff, even in 3.0.1.
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=== Questions ===
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== Vacations ==
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* DaveD, Martin last week of dec and 1st week of Jan
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== Action Items ==
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* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 5-Nov-2008]]
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* Last [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 26-Nov-2008]]
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* '''Martin''' '''old''' review {{bug|196176}} Rado's deferred D&D; {{bug|238574}} Website revamp; new Builder '''until 3.1M4'''; {{bug|227750}} Display in non-UI write fix '''until 3.1M4'''; Run performance tests for {{bug|236065}} IFileService improvements; Critical EFS bugs;
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* '''Xuan''': '''old''' Look at {{Bug|230917}} Archive Handler Unittests
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* '''DaveD''' '''old''' get rid of 3.0 assigned open bugs
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* '''DaveM''' '''old''' {{bug|199596}} Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile;
  
=== Next Meeting ===
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== Next Meeting ==
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Dec-2008]] (2 weeks after)
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Dec-2008]] (2 weeks after)
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 7-Jan-2009]] (4 weeks after)
 
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 7-Jan-2009]] (4 weeks after)

Revision as of 12:38, 26 November 2008

Meeting Title: Conference Call on Target Management
Date & Time: Wednesday Dec 3, 2008 at 1700 UTC / 9am PST
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Dial-in: Martin to call everybody by Skype
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Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton, anna_dushistova.


Contents

Attendees

This meeting is free for everyone to attend. It's a service of the TM developers and committers to community, fostering exchange of upcoming news, status and asking questions. Committers are expected to attend.


Agenda

Last Meetings

Update on RSE Status

TM 3.0.2

  • No changes planned this week, 3.0.2 release planned for Dec.5

TM 3.1

Other Stuff

  • bug 238574 Website Revamp - image from the Community is good, need some time to revamp the contents
  • Target Communication Framework - DSDP/TM/TCF FAQ available and plan theme, shooting for 1.0 under discussion.
  • 3.1M3 Assigned Open bugs - AI Everyone reassign target milestone as appropriate
  • Abbot pretty much dead -- looking at SWTBot now
  • Unittests, Findbugs?

Individual Status

  • Anna: Now also contributing to TCF
  • DaveD: Back to RSE next week
  • DaveM: Focusing on 3.0.2 work, 70% open RSE
  • Kevin: Reviewing 3.0.2 stuff, reviewing search bug for backport
  • Xuan: Reviewing Useraction stuff from Kevin for 3.0.2 - planning to fix Junit issue
  • Martin: RSE reviewing changes, want to
  • Rado: Cancel-copy, WinCE

Community Feedback and Status

  • Community contributions
    • Patrick Juhl - SSH Tunnel - no news. In JSch Session.setPortForwardingL() there seems to be an incompatibility between Eclipse 3.3 and 3.4 (according to JSch mailing list). SSH Tunnel being used by Collabnet Cubit
    • bug 196337 - TM Local Terminal Connector - waiting on fix for CDT Spawner
    • Freescale contributions to be reviewed - bug 247876 apply host to project; bug 247878 systemHostCombo with subsystems; bug 247879 project cache for RSE host settings
    • bug 236205 Generic Display subsystem (as a host for vnc etc)

Technology sub-groups

Old Stuff

  • bug 240991 Startup creates Display on Worker Thread
    • Workarounds seem to be good for now. Martin would prefer experimenting with IRSEPersistenceProvider in HEAD
  • Unittests
    • bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at
  • Findbugs and other cleanup
    • Broken Links in Docs: Xenu's LinkSleuth
  • Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
    • Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
    • Current situation is on this bugzilla report

Cleanup Work

  • Unittests, unittests, unittests! -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
  • Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?)
  • Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
  • Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated
  • Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
  • Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
  • Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
    • Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
  • Stuff for 3.1
    • API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - cannot limit existing API more than it was before, unless it was textually documented already, but can deprecate stuff, even in 3.0.1.

Questions

Vacations

  • DaveD, Martin last week of dec and 1st week of Jan

Action Items

Next Meeting