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The meeting is primarily planned as a hands-on coding camp with architectural discussions. See the [[#Agenda]] below for details about things to be discussed.
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The meeting is primarily planned as a hands-on coding camp for contributors, with in-depth discussions about current and future TM/RSE architecture and hard problems, also involving looking right at the code.
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We'd also discuss planning issues, additions of new components to the TM offering and the TM strategy moving forward (perhaps revising our Use Cases). See the [[#Agenda]] below for details about things to be discussed.
  
 
== Location and Dates ==
 
== Location and Dates ==
* Location: Hyatt Woodfield, Chicago IL, http://woodfield.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp
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* Location:
** Together with the Eclipse [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-committers/msg00377.html Members Meeting and Marketing Symposium]
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** IBM Toronto Development Labs, Warden Ave between Highway 407 and Highway 7, Markham
** If you want to get a jump on hotel reservations, please call 1-800-633-7313 (North America), (international numbers at http://www.hyatt.com/hyatt/customer-service/numbers.jsp) and ask for the “Eclipse block for rate of $169/night”.
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** Suggested Hotel: [http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml;jsessionid=4KXATC2AU1HHJJ31AOQMISQ?ctyhocn=YYZAPHF Hilton Suites Hotel & Conference Centre Toronto/Markham], Phone 905 470-8500
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** For more hotel options, directions and other details, see the [[DSDP-DD_Face-to-face_Toronto_22-Feb-2006#Logistics|DD 22-Feb-2006 meeting Logistics]]
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** <b><font color="red">The meeting is in Toronto Sep 17/18 and NOT in Chicago with the [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-committers/msg00377.html Eclipse Members Meeting] as previously announced!</font></b>
 
* Exact time and Agenda are tentative, details will follow late July:
 
* Exact time and Agenda are tentative, details will follow late July:
** Wed Sep/19: 0900-1700, DSDP-TM planning and coding camp
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** Mon Sep/17: 0900-1700, '''Planning'''
** Thu Sep/20: 0900-1700, DSDP-TM planning and coding camp
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*** Introductions and Warm-up
* Conference number: TBD
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*** Hi-Level Pain Points and Plan Items by Company
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*** Other Items (2.0.2; Java 5; stuff not signed up)
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*** Time Constraints and Milestone Assignments
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*** Individual Bug Discussions
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** Tue Sep/18: 0900-1700, '''Operations'''
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*** Introducing our work places
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*** Download Stats / Bugzilla Stats
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*** Improving the Way we Work: Pain-points and Highlights
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*** Interesting stuff to learn (Threads, Projects, Concepts)
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*** Long-Term Vision / Brainstorming
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*** Growing Community / EclipseCon 08
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*** Individual Bug Discussions 3.0/2.0.1
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** Wed Sep/19: 0900-1200, '''Coding Camp'''
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*** Break-out sessions for peer programming
  
 
== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
 
Please add yourself to this list if you plan to attend.
 
Please add yourself to this list if you plan to attend.
 
* Martin Oberhuber, Wind River
 
* Martin Oberhuber, Wind River
* Dave Dykstal, IBM (tentative)
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* Javier Montalvo Orus, Symbian
* Dave McKnight, IBM (tentative)
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* Dave Dykstal, IBM
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* Dave McKnight, IBM
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* Xuan Chen, IBM
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* Kevin Doyle, IBM
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* Kushal Munir, IBM (tentative / part-time)
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* Rupen Mardirossian, IBM (tentative / part-time)
  
 
== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
 
For each of the topics mentioned below, one presenter will be asked to prepare and look for possible architecture for the future of RSE. During the meeting, we will explore these prosals right with the code. Naturally, the topics are related to the [[TM Future Planning]] page. Attendees can request to add topics to the agenda until Friday Sep-7th.
 
For each of the topics mentioned below, one presenter will be asked to prepare and look for possible architecture for the future of RSE. During the meeting, we will explore these prosals right with the code. Naturally, the topics are related to the [[TM Future Planning]] page. Attendees can request to add topics to the agenda until Friday Sep-7th.
  
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* Come up with a consistent story around EFS vs. RSync vs. RSE (MartinO) - may be related to RemoteSystemsTempFiles
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* How to improve the RemoteTempFiles cache (DaveM): Put it outside the workspace ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=158770 158770]), do not share between connections ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=193858 193858]), allow characters only valid on the remote ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=160103 160103]), support remote names differing only in case also on Windows ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=160100 160100])
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* RSE Logging - what to log and where ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=196317 196317]) (DaveD)
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* Architecture and changes for '''deferred plugin loading''' in RSE (DaveD, MartinO)
 
* Hard problems with splitting RSE '''UI/Non-UI/RCP'''
 
* Hard problems with splitting RSE '''UI/Non-UI/RCP'''
 
** At the time of the F2F meeting, important steps for UI/Non-UI/RCP splitting should have been made in RSE 3.0 HEAD already
 
** At the time of the F2F meeting, important steps for UI/Non-UI/RCP splitting should have been made in RSE 3.0 HEAD already
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* Architecture / Future of RSE '''User Actions''' (Dave D)
 
* Architecture / Future of RSE '''User Actions''' (Dave D)
 
* Architecture / Future of RSE '''Profiles and Team Support''' (Dave D)
 
* Architecture / Future of RSE '''Profiles and Team Support''' (Dave D)
* Architecture / Future of RSE '''Wizard UI''' ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176490 bug 176490])
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* Architecture / Future of the RSE '''Details View (Tableview): non-homogeneous contents, table headings, property descriptors''' (Xuan Chen)
 
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* Architecture / Future of RSE '''Wizard UI''' (Xuan Chen)([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176490 bug 176490])
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* Unify Remote Monitor and Tableview? (DaveM)
  
In addition to our own project specific agenda, we may be asked to give a presentation to the attendees of the Members and Marketing Symposium, which may be a great opportunity for Community Building.
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More agenda items may spring off the
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* Bugzilla [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Assignee open API bugs]
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* Bugzilla [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=plan&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&cmdtype=doit&order=Assignee plan items]

Latest revision as of 19:57, 16 September 2007

The meeting is primarily planned as a hands-on coding camp for contributors, with in-depth discussions about current and future TM/RSE architecture and hard problems, also involving looking right at the code.

We'd also discuss planning issues, additions of new components to the TM offering and the TM strategy moving forward (perhaps revising our Use Cases). See the #Agenda below for details about things to be discussed.

Location and Dates

  • Location:
  • Exact time and Agenda are tentative, details will follow late July:
    • Mon Sep/17: 0900-1700, Planning
      • Introductions and Warm-up
      • Hi-Level Pain Points and Plan Items by Company
      • Other Items (2.0.2; Java 5; stuff not signed up)
      • Time Constraints and Milestone Assignments
      • Individual Bug Discussions
    • Tue Sep/18: 0900-1700, Operations
      • Introducing our work places
      • Download Stats / Bugzilla Stats
      • Improving the Way we Work: Pain-points and Highlights
      • Interesting stuff to learn (Threads, Projects, Concepts)
      • Long-Term Vision / Brainstorming
      • Growing Community / EclipseCon 08
      • Individual Bug Discussions 3.0/2.0.1
    • Wed Sep/19: 0900-1200, Coding Camp
      • Break-out sessions for peer programming

Attendees

Please add yourself to this list if you plan to attend.

  • Martin Oberhuber, Wind River
  • Javier Montalvo Orus, Symbian
  • Dave Dykstal, IBM
  • Dave McKnight, IBM
  • Xuan Chen, IBM
  • Kevin Doyle, IBM
  • Kushal Munir, IBM (tentative / part-time)
  • Rupen Mardirossian, IBM (tentative / part-time)

Agenda

For each of the topics mentioned below, one presenter will be asked to prepare and look for possible architecture for the future of RSE. During the meeting, we will explore these prosals right with the code. Naturally, the topics are related to the TM Future Planning page. Attendees can request to add topics to the agenda until Friday Sep-7th.

  • Come up with a consistent story around EFS vs. RSync vs. RSE (MartinO) - may be related to RemoteSystemsTempFiles
  • How to improve the RemoteTempFiles cache (DaveM): Put it outside the workspace (158770), do not share between connections (193858), allow characters only valid on the remote (160103), support remote names differing only in case also on Windows (160100)
  • RSE Logging - what to log and where (196317) (DaveD)
  • Architecture and changes for deferred plugin loading in RSE (DaveD, MartinO)
  • Hard problems with splitting RSE UI/Non-UI/RCP
    • At the time of the F2F meeting, important steps for UI/Non-UI/RCP splitting should have been made in RSE 3.0 HEAD already
  • Architecture / Future of SubSystemConfiguration componentization
    • We had an idea to split SubSystemConfiguration into static and dynamic parts
  • Architecture / Future of Connection Groups and Multicore / Multi-System support
  • Architecture / Future of RSE User Actions (Dave D)
  • Architecture / Future of RSE Profiles and Team Support (Dave D)
  • Architecture / Future of the RSE Details View (Tableview): non-homogeneous contents, table headings, property descriptors (Xuan Chen)
  • Architecture / Future of RSE Wizard UI (Xuan Chen)(bug 176490)
  • Unify Remote Monitor and Tableview? (DaveM)

More agenda items may spring off the