DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008

Meeting Title:	TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time:	Monday June 9, 2008 at 1600 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1100 Rochester / 1200 Toronto / 1800 Salzburg
Dial-in:	Martin to call everybody by Skype

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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.

Invited Attendees

IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
MontaVista - Anna Dushistova

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Agenda

Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 5-Jun-2008
Skype Call Quality

New Stuff

DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
- We have RC3, so from now on EVERY checkin must get a +1 by two reviewers BEFORE (except emergencies, documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
- Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale

TM 3.0 RC2 Testing Status (as per yesterday's E-Mail)
- Test Configurations -- especially for bug 231453 from cross-project list
  - TM installed into Eclipse 3.4 dropins/ -- That's what we always do
  - TM installed into Eclipse 3.3. -- Martin has target platform against 3.3 now
  - TM as part of the JEE Package -- AI DaveD, or Kevin; AI Martin tell Dave when JEE has TM RC3
  - TM initial install from TM Update Site -- Martin
  - Ganymede TM initial install from Ganymede --
    - Dependencies: When Remotecdt / Discovery selected, CDT / EMF must be installed automatically
    - DaveD: Quicktest on official Ganymede Site with RC2 (today), RC3 again when available
  - Update Scenarios
    - Updating 3.0 to 3.0.1 -- referencing TM site, not Gany site -- 3.0RC3 to I-build -- AI Martin
    - Updating TM 2.0 to 3.0 -- Eclipse 3.3/TM 2.0 (including discovery, cdt), use TM 3.0 update site, update to TM 3.0 -- AI Martin

- Test Areas
  - Connection Import / Export -- AI Xuan
  - Documentation: Correct hyperlinks
  - Feature Versions, About Files, ...

Hot Bugs being discussed

bug 233461 Refresh expanded Folders -- IFileService#list to return children and parent in one step, how to be API compatible?
- DaveM: Not in favor of changing API, don't expect getFile() to be expensive, Cache in Service Layer. Against explicit API change. Plain semantic change is the least of the evils.
- Martin against Caching on Service Layer.
- Original bug as specified must be fixed - want the fix in there as soon as possible, because it fixes IRemoteFile problems
- AI Martin can easily adapt unittests to run performance metrics
- Split up the bug: Original bug 233461 for the original problem only, include a small patch WITHOUT API change but with unittests. Create a new bug for the API Changes / Preformance Improvements, with the 2nd part of the patch. Discuss API separately. Original bug to be committed into an I-build today. AI Martin and Dave to hook up on Skype later today.
bug 235600 Downrev ftp, local, ssh, telnet features to 2.1.0 was intentional!
bug 235221 Files truncated on exit of Eclipse -- AI DaveD prioritize bug
bug 199596 [refresh][ftp] Changing a file/folder's Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile -- is it fixed now? -- patch not yet committed?
bug 234038 [files][refresh] Changing file permissions does not update property sheet or refresh tree -- is it fixed? -- patch not yet committed? -- AI DaveM create new bug for Tableview
bug 235145 Remove Create Project Action -- DaveD: Document the process of creating a remote project, but get rid of the action? - Martin: See FAQ,
- Decision: Action is not ready for products, therefore remove it now or allow to programmatically disable it
bug 234026 [apidoc] IFileService#createFolder() does not specify whether parent folders are created
- Update Service Docs and Impl to make the Service create parent folders
bug 227750 [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1
bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at, probably move to 3.0.1 during weekend

=== Other Stuff

Ganymede Promotions - Screencast (until June 15), New&Noteworthy
Javier - deactivated as Committer because he
Anna Dushistova to become Committer

Plan for Next Steps

Bug Triage
- AI Everyone must review your assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 where possible
- All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
- Work on remaining ones by priority
- Open RC2 Assigned bugs, open 3.0 Assigned bugs
- Severity Major, Hi-Priority
- Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 8 major (DaveD, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 23 other P2's -- was 10 major / 20 P2's last week
- Community contributions: Only few unapplied patches right now, last chance to apply now before 3.0 (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)

Martin's new Build System for Dave
- In the works

New and Noteworthy
- I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
- See CDT/User/NewIn50 for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
- For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
  - Useractions

Cleanup Work
- Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's?
  - Unittests, unittests, unittests!
  - New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
  - Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
  - Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?)
  - API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
  - Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
  - Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated
  - Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
  - Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
  - Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
  - Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
    - Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
- TM Website: revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.

What will happen after Ganymede?

Going for 3.1 next year, bugzilla target milestone exists
- Communicate plans (Wiki, Website) - Java5?

TM Future Planning Wiki for collecting ideas. Some first thoughts on Priorities?
- Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware
- Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties
- More dynamic subsystem enablement and configuration (e.g. detect UNIX vs Windows automatically at runtime)
- Hi-Performance, caching EFS provider
- Bring TCF to Maturity
- Quality: Add unittest coverage, reduce bloat, improve performance, streamline APIs

Questions

DaveD context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: bug 208062

Committer Status and Report

Javier - New Employer in Barcelona
DaveD -
- bug 189274 Import/export connections
DaveM: -
- JUnit should autotest dstore against old servers as well - an IBM thing
Kevin: -
Xuan: -
Martin: - Commons.Net 1.5.0 not yet released - AI Martin create placeholder CQ
- bug 221190 EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly
- GSoC student Takuya Miyamoto for bug 185925
Uwe: -
Rupen: -
Michael: -
Eugene: -
Rado: -
Felix: -
Questions

Old Stuff

Unit Tests - next priority after API
Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)
bug 221211 MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. AI DaveD/DaveM update Javadocs when it's clear what we want
bug 220379 Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter - is this fixed now that IService is IAdaptable as per bug 226262? AI DaveM ask reporters
bug 220547 SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local - AI DaveM think about

Bugzilla:
- Severity Major, hi-priority

Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
- Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
- Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 31 weeks / 5 milestones, so each committer is due 62 fixes / 10 unittests
- Current situation is on this bugzilla report
- Unittests: when adding a test, please add the tag //-test-author:YourName in front of it
  - DaveM - 5
  - DaveD - 22
  - KevinD - 11
  - MartinO - 3
  - TobiasS - 3
  - UweS - 7
  - XuanC - 51
  - Total - 101
  - Javier - 0

Vacation, away

Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
DaveD in July

Action Items

Last Meeting Action Items
Everyone:
- Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 / 3.1 what we can
- Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table;
- Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail)
- Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
DaveD: Take bug 234215 and talk to DaveM about bug 234030; Dial in at Release Review; Try Website brush-up
DaveM: bug 233480 - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension
Kevin: -
Rupen: -
Xuan: -
Martin: Update Project Plan; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan
Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
Michael: Terminal: Try to fix bug 185348, bug 204796
Uwe: -
Rado: Fix bug 230919 IFileService.delete()
Felix: -
Eugene: -

Next Meeting

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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008

Contents

Invited Attendees

Agenda

New Stuff

Hot Bugs being discussed

Plan for Next Steps

What will happen after Ganymede?

Questions

Committer Status and Report

Old Stuff

Vacation, away

Action Items

Next Meeting

Breadcrumbs

Notice: this Wiki will be going read only early in 2024 and edits will no longer be possible. Please see: https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/wikis/Wiki-shutdown-plan for the plan.

DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008

Contents

Invited Attendees

Agenda

New Stuff

Hot Bugs being discussed

Plan for Next Steps

What will happen after Ganymede?

Questions

Committer Status and Report

Old Stuff

Vacation, away

Action Items

Next Meeting