Difference between revisions of "DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Aug-2006"

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Fixed-line fallback dial-in:

• International +1 314-655-1411
• North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free)
• Passcode: 764918

Attendees

• IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
• Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber

Agenda

• Our top goals
  • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
  • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
  • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
• Latest News
  • Martin -- Javier; Ericsson probably joining; PMC:Europa; ssh enhancements (pattern parsing)
    • DKM: local pattern parsing also done on iSeries QShell; common preference page for patterns?
  • DaveD -- Almost all docs links fixed; users can file bugs against docs now; now working on signon without password
    • DKM: pathes too long for Windows (256 chars)
    • MOB: take path components and use as prefix for keys, in order to collapse dir structure? - DD: already done partially. Change areas for team support and merging? - MO: If the contents is sorted, the areas of change will not overlap. DD to check possibility of collapsing
  • DaveM -- Fixing bugs; will look at P1 bugs. MOB -- use Java Exception Breakpoints
  • Kushal -- sick
  • Javier -- Updates - catchup with everything
  • Other News --
• Urgent work to do
  • Bug Work
    • bugs 149186 still open, 149133 reopened, 148981 easily reproducable
    • Please try a bit harder to reproduce problems, and verify fixes
    • Kushal where are your checkins?
    • Kushal why are your bugs still in "NEW" state?
    • We should be accountable and honest: things we have promised should be kept. It is ok that we are not able to keep something
    • You can now assign back to dsdp.tm.rse-inbox@eclipse.org
    • Open bugs: Open with Patch, P1 bugs, API bugs, P1, P2 bugs
  • API Things
    • Parallel Services --> see RSE API Discussion, Meeting 19-Jul-2006 Notes. We might need to support parallel access in the services, because clients can request the service UI-Less and make requests in arbitrary parallel threads
      • Javier: use java 1.5 util.concurrent? - Better stay with 1.4 for now.
      • MOB to implement a queue for ssh
      • Get rid of service calls on UI thread
    • Other "Big Rock" API issues
    • Making stuff internal: EFS, Service and Subsystem implementations, what else? -- DD to compile a list of suggestions
      • Make all framework external, all implementation internal. It doesnt make sense to derive from an implementation in order to create a modified implementation. Make FTP, ssh, local internal; Have a closer look at dstore since it is designed to be extendible.
    • What about things in the Platform? E.g. Extension-point rseConfigDefaults vs. plugin_customization.ini
      • Kushal to review, remove if possible.
      • Create a list of potentially obsolete things on the RSE 2.0 Planning page.
  • Legal: JUnit (Some IBM signoffs needed, but not too hard); Jakarta-commons (TBD aug.24 latest)
    • Windriver has submitted the terminalview; to be refactored and hooked up with IShellService
    • DKM: are IShellService streams sufficient? Its a tty after all
• Other items
  • Keeping Tutorial up-to-date vs. review at the end of the release process
  • Javier & Martin Fixing things in RSE -- e.g. casts and deprecated implementations -- what process to use?
    • Subscribe to dsdp-tm-cvs-commit@eclipse.org
      • [1]
      • Mark minor changes as [cleanup] in the commit comment
    • Review changes on the changelog
    • e.g. ISubSystem.setVendorAttribute() vs. SubSystem.setVendorAttribute()
    • e.g. RemoteCommandHelpers:93, IRemoteCmdSubSystem cmdSubSystem = (RemoteCmdSubSystem)sses[i]
    • e.g. SubSystem.getRemoteAttribute() used by RemoteCmdSubSystem
      • decide about deprecated for M5
    • e.g. SubsystemConfiguration vs. SubSystemConfiguration
    • e.g. unnecessary checks: if (x instanceof X && x!=null)
    • e.g. adding documentation to interfaces
      • Documentation being repeated in the abstract superclass impl of the interface: put correct docs into the interface, and have the abstract class just refer to the interface with @see
    • e.g. adding //$NON-NLS-1$ for Strings that are clearly not to be translated
      • DONT do that for example code
  • Please focus on "big rocks" (hi-pri bugs)
  • Manual test plans - in work by Martin
  • EFS feature, Examples feature to be created by Martin
• Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
  • Move M4 ? Not if we are able to make the P1, P2 things and most [api] things
  • Try to keep current, and see how we're getting along. If it turns out we have too many big things after I-build, we'll move by another week
  • Javier still talking with Scott Lewis -- Javier to talk to him again once SD is integrated with Eclipse

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• DaveD - Doc update, JUnit legal, Service Error Reporting API, No-Password-API, SystemRegistry API
• DaveM - bug fixing, Parallel Services API, hygiene changes
• Kushal - refactoring checkin, doc review (with DaveD), bug fixing
• Martin - EFS & Examples features, build scripts, Manual test plan, API Review
• Javier -

Next Meeting

• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Aug-2006 at 9.30am Toronto
• Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Sep-2006 at 9am PST