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− | | Javier || | + | | Javier || 50% || FTP Parser Extension Point || 50% |
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− | | Ted || | + | | Ted || 0% || - || 0% |
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− | | Uwe || | + | | Uwe || 5% || - || 5% |
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* '''Current Priorities''' | * '''Current Priorities''' | ||
** '''Priority #1: Converge to a Stable Build for Testing''' | ** '''Priority #1: Converge to a Stable Build for Testing''' | ||
− | *** '''Javier''': FTP parallel download, | + | *** '''Javier''': FTP parallel download - have a problem with cancellation, but it looks difficult - not for M7 |
− | **** What about persistence of the parser setting - does it work now? | + | **** Directory listing parser extension point: Dont activate too early; translatable label; autodetect parsers registered by extenders - '''AI Javier wants to address these''' |
− | + | **** What about persistence of the parser setting - does it work now? Dont know if it works by now; '''AI DaveD check it''' | |
− | + | *** '''DaveD''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177329 177329] Persistence locks the workspace / thread handling: provider outside workspace / independent of IResource - '''AI DaveD fix today''' | |
− | + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163592 163592] API to explicitly save profiles after model changes - API is there; missing is the ability to turn off some extra saving is mostly finished | |
− | *** '''DaveD''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177329 177329] Persistence locks the workspace / thread handling: provider outside workspace / independent of IResource | + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177332 177332] API to wait until RSE model is fully restored - '''AI DaveD API for polling the state of the model (is it fully restored?); query "all providers" vs. "a particular one"''' |
− | + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168870 168870] org.eclipse.rse.core in the UI plugin: SystemBasePlugin (reduce usage to 0 and get rid of it?), ISystemRemoteElementAdapter (only Shell!), ISystemRemoteObjectMatcher; org.eclipse.rse.core.comm to go to non-UI together with the keystoreProviders extension point - '''AI DaveD committed: most interesting of the lower priority ones''' | |
− | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163592 163592] API to explicitly save profiles after model changes; | + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176211 176211] org.eclipse.rse.internal.model in the UI plugin: SystemHostPool (create an interface IRSESystemTypeAdapter) - '''tricky''' |
− | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177332 177332] API to wait until RSE model is fully restored | + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142806 142806] attributes not written to DOM; - probably fixed already, FTP properties is an example of this; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153632 153632] incorrect filterpool for dstore - '''not API: AI DaveD within the next week''' |
− | + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=183771 183771] StandardCredentialProvider without UI if password is stored; - almost there, not a priority since there are other UI dependencies we won't get around for 2.0 | |
− | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168870 168870] org.eclipse.rse.core in the UI plugin: SystemBasePlugin, ISystemRemoteElementAdapter (only Shell!), ISystemRemoteObjectMatcher; org.eclipse.rse.core.comm to go to non-UI together with the keystoreProviders extension point | + | |
− | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176211 176211] org.eclipse.rse.internal.model in the UI plugin: SystemHostPool (create an interface IRSESystemTypeAdapter) | + | |
*** '''DaveM''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=184322 184322] IProgressMonitor added to file system APIs | *** '''DaveM''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=184322 184322] IProgressMonitor added to file system APIs | ||
**** Need to document whether null is allowed as paramter or not, both for IFileService and IRemoteFileSubSystem!! | **** Need to document whether null is allowed as paramter or not, both for IFileService and IRemoteFileSubSystem!! | ||
− | **** Should we have a common guideline of having the progress monitor first, or last? | + | ***** DaveD: IResource does allow null as progress monitor; DaveM: dont document that we allow null; MartinO: require clients to pass in real progress monitors. |
− | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] Refresh in the SystemView: "remote" case vs. "local" case -- ISystemRemoteElementAdapter vs. ISystemViewElementAdapter | + | **** Should we have a common guideline of having the progress monitor first, or last? - Kushal: IFileService has monitors in a different place than Subsystem; Resources API have monitors at the end typically; '''AI Martin''' check Eclipse APIs and send E-Mail |
+ | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] Refresh in the SystemView: "remote" case vs. "local" case -- ISystemRemoteElementAdapter vs. ISystemViewElementAdapter - '''AI DaveM - Hi Prio for WR''' | ||
***** Should we better have a method like doLazyRefresh() vs. doAsyncRefresh() in the ISystemViewElementAdapter? | ***** Should we better have a method like doLazyRefresh() vs. doAsyncRefresh() in the ISystemViewElementAdapter? | ||
**** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=167620 167620] delete many items has remote queries on dispatch thread | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=167620 167620] delete many items has remote queries on dispatch thread | ||
− | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=182221 bug 182221]: IRemoteFileSubSystem should forward exceptions rather than handling them with dialogs - Decision was to pragmatically start converting simple methods - who should do it? | + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=182221 bug 182221]: IRemoteFileSubSystem should forward exceptions rather than handling them with dialogs - Decision was to pragmatically start converting simple methods - who should do it? - No volunteers :-( |
*** '''Martin''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177523 177523] getInstance; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=175680 175680] cleanup ISystemRegistry - probably bring more into non-UI; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] Refresh; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=172650 172650] Capabilities; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176461 176461] expand-to-level; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170910 170910] Integrate Terminalview; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185098 185098] constants for system types; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185097 185097] make getCoreRegistry() simpler | *** '''Martin''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177523 177523] getInstance; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=175680 175680] cleanup ISystemRegistry - probably bring more into non-UI; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] Refresh; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=172650 172650] Capabilities; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176461 176461] expand-to-level; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170910 170910] Integrate Terminalview; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185098 185098] constants for system types; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185097 185097] make getCoreRegistry() simpler | ||
− | **** Committer Voting: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185552 185552] remove remoteSystemsViewPreferencesActions extension point | + | **** Committer Voting: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185552 185552] remove remoteSystemsViewPreferencesActions extension point - Kushal OK |
− | **** Committer Voting: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185554 185554] remove dynamicPopupMenuExtensions extension point | + | **** Committer Voting: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185554 185554] remove dynamicPopupMenuExtensions extension point - Kushal not sure; one IBM product wanted more control over the menus; Uwe: adding actions dynamically to the menus is possible with extension points - only thing needed is menu groups; org.eclipse.ui.popupMenus can also be used for that - '''AI Uwe add some examples on how to do it with org.eclipse.ui.popupMenus on the bug''' |
*** '''Michael''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165893 165893] Terminal xyzmodem, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185348 185348] programmatic connection creation | *** '''Michael''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165893 165893] Terminal xyzmodem, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=185348 185348] programmatic connection creation | ||
− | *** '''Kushal''': Single "Encoding" control on the Host (for all subsystems) | + | **** Make all Terminal API experimental for now: '''AI Martin''' lookup how to declare API experimental and do it |
+ | *** '''Kushal''': Single "Encoding" control on the Host (for all subsystems) - '''checking in today'''; should the encoding be applied to the model or the views? - Martin: would like the Unicode model represent the CORRECT strings (recoded if necessary) | ||
** '''Priority #2: Import/Export''' | ** '''Priority #2: Import/Export''' | ||
− | *** Is there some mini-docu anywhere how to test Import/Export? - Add to [[TM Manual Test Plan]] | + | *** Is there some mini-docu anywhere how to test Import/Export? - Add to [[TM Manual Test Plan]] - '''DaveM:''' |
+ | **** Export: Take a local project, e.g. CDT project with src folder; take project, right-click > export > remote file system; similar to Eclipse "Export to File System" wizard, so it's a plain copy of all files to the remote side, no concept of synchronization | ||
+ | **** Export to descriptor file: selection of files to export can be saved, this file can later be right-clicked on to re-do the export quickly (similar to Java JAR Export wizard) | ||
+ | **** Import: Select a remote folder in the system view, right-click > Import: subset by file types, import to local project (modeled after Eclipse Import from File System wizard) - has a descriptor file as well | ||
+ | **** Use cases: | ||
+ | ***** Import/Export was more useful prior to having EFS - one would just import everything to local to edit there, then export | ||
+ | ***** Deployment; Future: Export to multiple locations | ||
+ | ***** Future: keep track of files changed in the project, or using Platform Team/Synchronization framework | ||
** '''Priority #3: Bugs''' | ** '''Priority #3: Bugs''' | ||
*** Bugzilla: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority] | *** Bugzilla: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority] | ||
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== Vacation, Away == | == Vacation, Away == | ||
+ | * Kushal away on Thursday | ||
== Action Items == | == Action Items == |
Latest revision as of 12:03, 8 May 2007
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Tuesday May 8, 2007 at 1500 UTC |
Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir, Kevin Doyle, Sanjayan Eladchumanasamy, Xuan Chen
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 2-May-2007
News & Review Action Items
Martin | 30% | Platform bugs 176805, 185734, 105554 | 100% |
DaveD | 80% | 80% | |
DaveM | 40% | Bugfixes | 40% |
Kushal | 40% | BIDI Encodings | 40% |
Javier | 50% | FTP Parser Extension Point | 50% |
Ted | 0% | - | 0% |
Uwe | 5% | - | 5% |
Michael | 10% | 10% |
Time Plan and Deadlines toward M7
- Plan towards M7 - goals and deadlines for I-builds
- I20070510 -- Stabilization, start TM 2.0 M7 Testing on May 14th
- I20070516 -- TM 2.0M7 (17th is a public holiday in Austria!)
- Reminder: TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa
Bugs and open work to be discussed
- Current Priorities
- Priority #1: Converge to a Stable Build for Testing
- Javier: FTP parallel download - have a problem with cancellation, but it looks difficult - not for M7
- Directory listing parser extension point: Dont activate too early; translatable label; autodetect parsers registered by extenders - AI Javier wants to address these
- What about persistence of the parser setting - does it work now? Dont know if it works by now; AI DaveD check it
- DaveD: 177329 Persistence locks the workspace / thread handling: provider outside workspace / independent of IResource - AI DaveD fix today
- 163592 API to explicitly save profiles after model changes - API is there; missing is the ability to turn off some extra saving is mostly finished
- 177332 API to wait until RSE model is fully restored - AI DaveD API for polling the state of the model (is it fully restored?); query "all providers" vs. "a particular one"
- 168870 org.eclipse.rse.core in the UI plugin: SystemBasePlugin (reduce usage to 0 and get rid of it?), ISystemRemoteElementAdapter (only Shell!), ISystemRemoteObjectMatcher; org.eclipse.rse.core.comm to go to non-UI together with the keystoreProviders extension point - AI DaveD committed: most interesting of the lower priority ones
- 176211 org.eclipse.rse.internal.model in the UI plugin: SystemHostPool (create an interface IRSESystemTypeAdapter) - tricky
- 142806 attributes not written to DOM; - probably fixed already, FTP properties is an example of this; 153632 incorrect filterpool for dstore - not API: AI DaveD within the next week
- 183771 StandardCredentialProvider without UI if password is stored; - almost there, not a priority since there are other UI dependencies we won't get around for 2.0
- DaveM: 184322 IProgressMonitor added to file system APIs
- Need to document whether null is allowed as paramter or not, both for IFileService and IRemoteFileSubSystem!!
- DaveD: IResource does allow null as progress monitor; DaveM: dont document that we allow null; MartinO: require clients to pass in real progress monitors.
- Should we have a common guideline of having the progress monitor first, or last? - Kushal: IFileService has monitors in a different place than Subsystem; Resources API have monitors at the end typically; AI Martin check Eclipse APIs and send E-Mail
- 173042 Refresh in the SystemView: "remote" case vs. "local" case -- ISystemRemoteElementAdapter vs. ISystemViewElementAdapter - AI DaveM - Hi Prio for WR
- Should we better have a method like doLazyRefresh() vs. doAsyncRefresh() in the ISystemViewElementAdapter?
- 167620 delete many items has remote queries on dispatch thread
- bug 182221: IRemoteFileSubSystem should forward exceptions rather than handling them with dialogs - Decision was to pragmatically start converting simple methods - who should do it? - No volunteers :-(
- Need to document whether null is allowed as paramter or not, both for IFileService and IRemoteFileSubSystem!!
- Martin: 177523 getInstance; 175680 cleanup ISystemRegistry - probably bring more into non-UI; 173042 Refresh; 172650 Capabilities; 176461 expand-to-level; 170910 Integrate Terminalview; 185098 constants for system types; 185097 make getCoreRegistry() simpler
- Committer Voting: 185552 remove remoteSystemsViewPreferencesActions extension point - Kushal OK
- Committer Voting: 185554 remove dynamicPopupMenuExtensions extension point - Kushal not sure; one IBM product wanted more control over the menus; Uwe: adding actions dynamically to the menus is possible with extension points - only thing needed is menu groups; org.eclipse.ui.popupMenus can also be used for that - AI Uwe add some examples on how to do it with org.eclipse.ui.popupMenus on the bug
- Michael: 165893 Terminal xyzmodem, 185348 programmatic connection creation
- Make all Terminal API experimental for now: AI Martin lookup how to declare API experimental and do it
- Kushal: Single "Encoding" control on the Host (for all subsystems) - checking in today; should the encoding be applied to the model or the views? - Martin: would like the Unicode model represent the CORRECT strings (recoded if necessary)
- Javier: FTP parallel download - have a problem with cancellation, but it looks difficult - not for M7
- Priority #2: Import/Export
- Is there some mini-docu anywhere how to test Import/Export? - Add to TM Manual Test Plan - DaveM:
- Export: Take a local project, e.g. CDT project with src folder; take project, right-click > export > remote file system; similar to Eclipse "Export to File System" wizard, so it's a plain copy of all files to the remote side, no concept of synchronization
- Export to descriptor file: selection of files to export can be saved, this file can later be right-clicked on to re-do the export quickly (similar to Java JAR Export wizard)
- Import: Select a remote folder in the system view, right-click > Import: subset by file types, import to local project (modeled after Eclipse Import from File System wizard) - has a descriptor file as well
- Use cases:
- Import/Export was more useful prior to having EFS - one would just import everything to local to edit there, then export
- Deployment; Future: Export to multiple locations
- Future: keep track of files changed in the project, or using Platform Team/Synchronization framework
- Is there some mini-docu anywhere how to test Import/Export? - Add to TM Manual Test Plan - DaveM:
- Priority #3: Bugs
- Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority
- 167620 Select and Delete in the Main thread
- EFS: Copy(), Move(); Open Remote Project on Startup: Get rid of IResource dependencies where possible; minimal plugin activations; UI/Non-UI
- Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority
- Priority #1: Converge to a Stable Build for Testing
- General Guidelines
- Avoid breaking API changes after end of this week
- Junior Jobs: Bugs marked as JJ: in the subject - similar to "helpwanted" keyword
- Compiler Warnings - total 669 in all of RSE, as of today:
- 360 "Discouraged Access"
- 114 Javadoc:
- 97 deprecated
- Compiler warnings compared to 30-Jan-2007
- 192 -> 99 rse.ui (mostly javadoc)
- 94 -> 120 files.ui
- 27 -> 31 subsystems.files.core
- 23 -> 18 services (javadoc)
- 12 -> 14 rse.core (deprecated)
- 3 connectorservice.dstore
- (---) -> 11 importexport
- See the Committer Howto for settings
- The 'discouraged access warnings should be looked at since they may indicate API flaws
Vacation, Away
- Kushal away on Thursday
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD: Translation Testcases; Persistence Provider without IResource; Get started on ICU4J with bug 183631
- DaveM: Bugs
- Kushal: BIDI bugs and Encodings
- Martin: Inform the community about dropped user actions; API cleanups; Testing Stats; Refresh improvements; Integrating Terminal with RSE
- Javier: FTP parallel download, registering FTP Parser by extension point
- Michael: Terminal xyzmodem, programmatic terminal connection creation