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Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.<br/>
 
Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.<br/>
  
== Invited Attendees ==
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== Attendees ==
 
* IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
 
* IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams, Eugene Tarassov
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* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
  
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
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== Notes ==
 
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== Agenda ==
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* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008]]
 
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008]]
  
 
=== Current Work ===
 
=== Current Work ===
 
* '''Skype Call Quality'''
 
* '''Skype Call Quality'''
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** Excellent even with 9 participants (8 + organizer). This is the Maximum that Skype supports, so we could meet on Skype only because Michael had another appointment.
 
* '''M5 upcoming''' - Test and endgame plan?
 
* '''M5 upcoming''' - Test and endgame plan?
 
** Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12
 
** Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12
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* '''[[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR2_.2829-Feb-2007.29|TM 2.0.3]]''' upcoming Feb.29 --  [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=2.0.3&cmdtype=doit 2.0.3 assigned bugs], any else?
 
* '''[[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR2_.2829-Feb-2007.29|TM 2.0.3]]''' upcoming Feb.29 --  [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=2.0.3&cmdtype=doit 2.0.3 assigned bugs], any else?
 
** '''AI All''' file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week
 
** '''AI All''' file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week
* '''Planning''' - '''AI Martin''' to write up what we discussed in Toronto
 
** Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not?
 
 
* Eugene new committer
 
* Eugene new committer
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** Martin wants TCF to be discussed more in the Open. Currently mostly Wind River engagement, but more to come (Power.org; ECSI Debug Standards Workshop).
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** TCF is mostly separate from RSE technology. '''AI Martin''' create separate Bugzilla component for TCF.
 
* Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)?
 
* Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)?
 
** YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects.
 
** YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects.
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*** This is maybe related to {{Bug|160403}} Filters should be connection-private by default
 
*** This is maybe related to {{Bug|160403}} Filters should be connection-private by default
 
* '''DaveM:''' -  
 
* '''DaveM:''' -  
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** {{bug|212742}} Util for sending commands and receiving output without echo
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*** Martin would like to see with M5 for EclipseCon tutorial; but it seems to work OK with SSH and dstore? '''AI Martin review the bug'''
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** {{bug|216252}}, {{bug|190231}} and {{bug|211067}} split resource strings and systemMessages into UI and Core - would like to get NLS refactorings done for the PII drop on Feb 25
 
** EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams
 
** EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams
 
** (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them
 
** (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''DaveD''': fixes, unit tests
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* '''Everyone''': consider fixes for 2.0.3 backport until end of this week; comment on {{bug|217894}} by DaveD
* '''DaveM''': Ask committers about multi-property-dialog; fixes, unit tests; ask Violaine about {{Bug|209704}}  
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* '''DaveD''': Find references to IServiceSubSystem, review refactoring
* '''Xuan''': fixes, unit tests
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* '''DaveM''': Investigate {{bug|190231}}, {{bug|211067}} SystemMessages UI/Core Separation
* '''Kevin''': fixes, unit tests
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* '''Xuan''':  
* '''Martin''': Update bugzilla's; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests; Releng Fixes, Newsgroup
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* '''Kevin''': webpage redesign (next week)
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* '''Martin''': Review {{bug|212742}} util for commands+results; TCF Bugzilla Component; New RSE Releng + unit tests; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues;
 
* '''Javier''': fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204138#c20 CVS] -- see also [[CVS_Development#Testing]]
 
* '''Javier''': fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204138#c20 CVS] -- see also [[CVS_Development#Testing]]
 
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements
 
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements

Latest revision as of 16:09, 6 February 2008

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Feb 6, 2007 at 1600 UTC / 1100 Eastern
Dial-in: Martin to call everybody by Skype

Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Attendees

  • IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus

Notes

Current Work

  • Skype Call Quality
    • Excellent even with 9 participants (8 + organizer). This is the Maximum that Skype supports, so we could meet on Skype only because Michael had another appointment.
  • M5 upcoming - Test and endgame plan?
    • Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12
    • First PII drop on Feb 25th, Deadline until end of M6; try to minimize any wholesale changes after Feb.25th
    • PII Changes for UI/Non-UI Splitting e.g. bug 190231 SubSystem, bug 211067 SystemMessages in Services
    • 3.0 M5 assigned open bugs
      • SystemMessages UI/Core separation - AI DaveM to investigate
        • DaveD prefer to have standard NLS strings only
  • TM 2.0.3 upcoming Feb.29 -- 2.0.3 assigned bugs, any else?
    • AI All file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week
  • Eugene new committer
    • Martin wants TCF to be discussed more in the Open. Currently mostly Wind River engagement, but more to come (Power.org; ECSI Debug Standards Workshop).
    • TCF is mostly separate from RSE technology. AI Martin create separate Bugzilla component for TCF.
  • Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)?
    • YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects.
  • TM Website
    • bug 216197 Bugs link on the side nav bar is broken by that latest changes
    • Kevin: Discussions fine so far, not touched the code yet?
    • Martin: Would like to get more dynamic information onto the homepage in an automated manner e.g. automated release notes with milestones. Avoid merging errors if starting work end this week.
  • Bug Fixing - Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
  • Next BugDay/February_2008 on Feb 29
  • Javier busy until end of Feb; no time for Eclipse currently
  • DaveD's lazy init done. bug 217556 ServiceSubSystem
    • What if a subsystem does not have a service layer? - Return null for getServiceType()
    • Existing code that checks whether something has a service needs to be changed: AI DaveD Find references to IServiceSubSystem
    • bug 217894 Subsystem Configuration Families - subsystem category would be orthogonal to subsystem family -- family would be related to connector service -- AI All comment on the bug
    • Import/export connections rather than profiles - extend the persistence provider for import/export. Use a profile that only contains those things relevant to the exported elements, and merge it on import (or instantiate + copy).
      • Uwe: Contributors may have their own format for import/export already
      • This is maybe related to bug 160403 Filters should be connection-private by default
  • DaveM: -
    • bug 212742 Util for sending commands and receiving output without echo
      • Martin would like to see with M5 for EclipseCon tutorial; but it seems to work OK with SSH and dstore? AI Martin review the bug
    • bug 216252, bug 190231 and bug 211067 split resource strings and systemMessages into UI and Core - would like to get NLS refactorings done for the PII drop on Feb 25
    • EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams
    • (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them
  • Kevin: -
  • Xuan: - Need to add plugin org.eclipse.rse.useractions into build. Needed by IBM (after M5)
    • Martin: will need to be a separate downloadable component.
  • Martin: - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
  • Uwe: -
  • Rupen: - bug 210682 - Multi-file conflict resolution on Copy - dialog ready, jpeg posted on the bug
    • Want to get current state (functional dialog) committed and treat changes via separate bugs. Issues with cross-subsystem copies
  • Michael: -
  • Questions

Vacation, Away

  • DaveD on vacation Feb 18-21
  • Feb.18 is Family Day in Ontario

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • Everyone: consider fixes for 2.0.3 backport until end of this week; comment on bug 217894 by DaveD
  • DaveD: Find references to IServiceSubSystem, review refactoring
  • DaveM: Investigate bug 190231, bug 211067 SystemMessages UI/Core Separation
  • Xuan:
  • Kevin: webpage redesign (next week)
  • Martin: Review bug 212742 util for commands+results; TCF Bugzilla Component; New RSE Releng + unit tests; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues;
  • Javier: fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to CVS -- see also CVS_Development#Testing
  • Michael: Terminal improvements

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