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Difference between revisions of "DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 6-Feb-2008"
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Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.<br/> | Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.<br/> | ||
| − | == | + | == Attendees == |
* IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian | * IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian | ||
| − | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov |
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus | * Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus | ||
| − | + | == Notes == | |
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* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008]] | * Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008]] | ||
=== Current Work === | === Current Work === | ||
* '''Skype Call Quality''' | * '''Skype Call Quality''' | ||
| + | ** Excellent even with 9 participants (8 + organizer). This is the Maximum that Skype supports, so we could meet on Skype only because Michael had another appointment. | ||
* '''M5 upcoming''' - Test and endgame plan? | * '''M5 upcoming''' - Test and endgame plan? | ||
** Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12 | ** Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12 | ||
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* '''[[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR2_.2829-Feb-2007.29|TM 2.0.3]]''' upcoming Feb.29 -- [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=2.0.3&cmdtype=doit 2.0.3 assigned bugs], any else? | * '''[[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR2_.2829-Feb-2007.29|TM 2.0.3]]''' upcoming Feb.29 -- [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=2.0.3&cmdtype=doit 2.0.3 assigned bugs], any else? | ||
** '''AI All''' file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week | ** '''AI All''' file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week | ||
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* Eugene new committer | * Eugene new committer | ||
| + | ** Martin wants TCF to be discussed more in the Open. Currently mostly Wind River engagement, but more to come (Power.org; ECSI Debug Standards Workshop). | ||
| + | ** TCF is mostly separate from RSE technology. '''AI Martin''' create separate Bugzilla component for TCF. | ||
* Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)? | * Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)? | ||
** YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects. | ** YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects. | ||
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*** This is maybe related to {{Bug|160403}} Filters should be connection-private by default | *** This is maybe related to {{Bug|160403}} Filters should be connection-private by default | ||
* '''DaveM:''' - | * '''DaveM:''' - | ||
| + | ** {{bug|212742}} Util for sending commands and receiving output without echo | ||
| + | *** Martin would like to see with M5 for EclipseCon tutorial; but it seems to work OK with SSH and dstore? '''AI Martin review the bug''' | ||
| + | ** {{bug|216252}}, {{bug|190231}} and {{bug|211067}} split resource strings and systemMessages into UI and Core - would like to get NLS refactorings done for the PII drop on Feb 25 | ||
** EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams | ** EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams | ||
** (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them | ** (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
| − | * ''' | + | * '''Everyone''': consider fixes for 2.0.3 backport until end of this week; comment on {{bug|217894}} by DaveD |
| − | * '''DaveM''': | + | * '''DaveD''': Find references to IServiceSubSystem, review refactoring |
| − | * '''Xuan''': | + | * '''DaveM''': Investigate {{bug|190231}}, {{bug|211067}} SystemMessages UI/Core Separation |
| − | * '''Kevin''': | + | * '''Xuan''': |
| − | * '''Martin''': | + | * '''Kevin''': webpage redesign (next week) |
| + | * '''Martin''': Review {{bug|212742}} util for commands+results; TCF Bugzilla Component; New RSE Releng + unit tests; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; | ||
* '''Javier''': fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204138#c20 CVS] -- see also [[CVS_Development#Testing]] | * '''Javier''': fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204138#c20 CVS] -- see also [[CVS_Development#Testing]] | ||
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements | * '''Michael''': Terminal improvements | ||
Latest revision as of 17:09, 6 February 2008
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Wednesday Feb 6, 2007 at 1600 UTC / 1100 Eastern |
| Dial-in: | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
Notes
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008
Current Work
- Skype Call Quality
- Excellent even with 9 participants (8 + organizer). This is the Maximum that Skype supports, so we could meet on Skype only because Michael had another appointment.
- M5 upcoming - Test and endgame plan?
- Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12
- First PII drop on Feb 25th, Deadline until end of M6; try to minimize any wholesale changes after Feb.25th
- PII Changes for UI/Non-UI Splitting e.g. bug 190231 SubSystem, bug 211067 SystemMessages in Services
- 3.0 M5 assigned open bugs
- SystemMessages UI/Core separation - AI DaveM to investigate
- DaveD prefer to have standard NLS strings only
- SystemMessages UI/Core separation - AI DaveM to investigate
- TM 2.0.3 upcoming Feb.29 -- 2.0.3 assigned bugs, any else?
- AI All file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week
- Eugene new committer
- Martin wants TCF to be discussed more in the Open. Currently mostly Wind River engagement, but more to come (Power.org; ECSI Debug Standards Workshop).
- TCF is mostly separate from RSE technology. AI Martin create separate Bugzilla component for TCF.
- Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)?
- YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects.
- TM Website
- bug 216197 Bugs link on the side nav bar is broken by that latest changes
- Kevin: Discussions fine so far, not touched the code yet?
- Martin: Would like to get more dynamic information onto the homepage in an automated manner e.g. automated release notes with milestones. Avoid merging errors if starting work end this week.
- Bug Fixing - Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
- Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 20 weeks / 4 milestones, so each committer is due 40 fixes / 8 unittests
- Current situation is on this bugzilla report
- Unittests: Xuan, DaveM, Javier added some; Martin 0; not sure about others; Martin working on Releng scripts next
- Next BugDay/February_2008 on Feb 29
- Javier busy until end of Feb; no time for Eclipse currently
- DaveD's lazy init done. bug 217556 ServiceSubSystem
- What if a subsystem does not have a service layer? - Return null for getServiceType()
- Existing code that checks whether something has a service needs to be changed: AI DaveD Find references to IServiceSubSystem
- bug 217894 Subsystem Configuration Families - subsystem category would be orthogonal to subsystem family -- family would be related to connector service -- AI All comment on the bug
- Import/export connections rather than profiles - extend the persistence provider for import/export. Use a profile that only contains those things relevant to the exported elements, and merge it on import (or instantiate + copy).
- Uwe: Contributors may have their own format for import/export already
- This is maybe related to bug 160403 Filters should be connection-private by default
- DaveM: -
- bug 212742 Util for sending commands and receiving output without echo
- Martin would like to see with M5 for EclipseCon tutorial; but it seems to work OK with SSH and dstore? AI Martin review the bug
- bug 216252, bug 190231 and bug 211067 split resource strings and systemMessages into UI and Core - would like to get NLS refactorings done for the PII drop on Feb 25
- EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams
- (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them
- bug 212742 Util for sending commands and receiving output without echo
- Kevin: -
- Xuan: - Need to add plugin org.eclipse.rse.useractions into build. Needed by IBM (after M5)
- Martin: will need to be a separate downloadable component.
- Martin: - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
- Uwe: -
- Rupen: - bug 210682 - Multi-file conflict resolution on Copy - dialog ready, jpeg posted on the bug
- Want to get current state (functional dialog) committed and treat changes via separate bugs. Issues with cross-subsystem copies
- Michael: -
- Questions
- Bugzilla:
Vacation, Away
- DaveD on vacation Feb 18-21
- Feb.18 is Family Day in Ontario
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone: consider fixes for 2.0.3 backport until end of this week; comment on bug 217894 by DaveD
- DaveD: Find references to IServiceSubSystem, review refactoring
- DaveM: Investigate bug 190231, bug 211067 SystemMessages UI/Core Separation
- Xuan:
- Kevin: webpage redesign (next week)
- Martin: Review bug 212742 util for commands+results; TCF Bugzilla Component; New RSE Releng + unit tests; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues;
- Javier: fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to CVS -- see also CVS_Development#Testing
- Michael: Terminal improvements
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Feb-2008 (2 weeks) at 1600 UTC
- Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 5-Mar-2008 at 9am PST / 1700 UTC