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=== Upcoming Work ===
 
=== Upcoming Work ===
* '''Top priority''' this week is work on the feature "big rocks" in bugzilla, for [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
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* '''Top priority''' this week is getting things done for M5. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities.
** Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial
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** Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163820 163820] (Kushal) Encodings
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170916 170916] (Kushal) EFS
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*** What about putting EFS directly on top of IFileService without using the cache
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170627 170627] (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren()
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] (Uwe) Improved / pluggable Refresh
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170832 170832] (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams)
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170922 170922] (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170915 170915] (DaveD, DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
 
** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API
 
** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API
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* New '''Europa Requirements''' from [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/20070123PCMinutes.php Planning Council Meeting 23-Jan-2007]
 
* New '''Europa Requirements''' from [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/20070123PCMinutes.php Planning Council Meeting 23-Jan-2007]
 
** Written ramp down policy by Feb. 23rd --> AI Martin: wait for what Platform does and adapt it
 
** Written ramp down policy by Feb. 23rd --> AI Martin: wait for what Platform does and adapt it
 
** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects'''
 
** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects'''
 
*** AI create bugzillas for getting rid of Platform Internal access and hook them up with a plan item; Europa requires that these are in the release notes and there is a plan for addressing these in the next major release
 
*** AI create bugzillas for getting rid of Platform Internal access and hook them up with a plan item; Europa requires that these are in the release notes and there is a plan for addressing these in the next major release
*** AI re-enable compiler warnings for non-API; fix still open compiler warnings
 
** Report Strings for translation --> AI DaveD report to Bjorn
 
 
** Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
 
** Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
** Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
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** Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
 
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
 
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
* [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
 
** '''1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation'''
 
*** '''Make stuff internal'''
 
**** SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
 
*** UI/Non-UI separation (Condition of Satisfaction: be able to do a headless launch; try to reduce number of plugins? - DaveM be able to use service layer without profiles, persistence etc.; DaveM could envision service layer as part of ECF or similar; put subsystem.files together with subsystem.files)
 
*** Be able to do ssh non-ui only? Would need an API for password / passphrase prompting in RSE core.
 
*** SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands;
 
*** read-only flags [java.io: cannot change a file to writable] want a capability API for services to report if they can set r-o or not? - Not yet, just report an error.
 
*** timestamp, ro-flags: still TBD for ssh and ftp
 
*** Streams for IHostShell, IFileService - upload already allows an InputStream; download will need new API; may be a problem for dstore since the agent "pushes" the file; ftp allows canceling the download
 
*** Asynchronous API/callbacks; How is the client informed about job completion? Event? Callback? Progressmonitor? - Progressmonitor is created by the job typically, so we have no control over the progress [could use a SubProgressMonitor]? Use Java5 Concurrency classes?
 
*** IHostShell changes for Terminal;
 
** '''2. Make EFS work'''
 
*** Kushal looking at it - problem is the strictness of resource locking / scheduling rules
 
*** What about putting EFS directly on top of IFileService without using the cache? Might avoid scheduling rules; might require further extensions of IFileService
 
** '''3. Play well with the Platform'''
 
*** get rid of platform "internal" access; this may also mean getting rid of customized extension points for adding actions
 
*** retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
 
** '''4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
 
** '''5. New Features'''
 
*** Import/Export & User actions; Terminal-in-rse; Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
 
* Think about '''limiting the API''': Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
 
** Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
 
** Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
 
* Add Montavista shell processes subsystem
 
* '''Fix N-builds''' (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
 
** Orbit bundles to be added differently
 
** Unittests to run every night
 
** Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
 
** Copyright Year Changes
 
* '''Compiler Warnings'''
 
** Good progress, please continue. Most warnings are javadoc warnings now. See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php#check_code Committer Howto] for settings
 
*** 109 -> 113 -> 113 -> 3 connectorservice.dstore
 
*** 176 -> 265 -> 161 -> 12 rse.core
 
*** 474 -> 558 -> 558 -> 94 files.ui
 
*** 637 -> 662 -> 662 -> 23 services (javadoc)
 
*** 221 -> 250 -> 248 -> 27 subsystems.files.core
 
*** 1622 -> 346 -> 293 -> 192 rse.ui (mostly javadoc)
 
* '''Quality'''
 
** '''Docs are a high priority'''. Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review, and improve all docs
 
  
 
=== Communications ===
 
=== Communications ===
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* Change Requests
 
* Change Requests
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
** DaveD going to Chicago end of the month; Florida in February for a week
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** DaveD going to Florida in February for a week
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
 
** Decided to fix the committer meeting slot to 1700 UTC (same as today).
 
** Decided to fix the committer meeting slot to 1700 UTC (same as today).

Revision as of 10:10, 6 February 2007

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Feb 6, 2007 at 1700 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Attendees

  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Notes

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

Latest News

Martin 50% EclipseCon; EFS Symlinks; Enabled "internal" warnings; Bugzilla discussions. 50%
DaveD 80% 80%
DaveM 50% EclipseCon; 50%
Kushal 100% Encodings; 100%
Javier 50% 169680 passive mode; 50%
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 0% 0%
Michael 20% 20%

Upcoming Work

  • Top priority this week is getting things done for M5. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities.
    • Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed
    • 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting
    • 163820 (Kushal) Encodings
    • 170916 (Kushal) EFS
      • What about putting EFS directly on top of IFileService without using the cache
    • 170627 (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren()
    • 173042 (Uwe) Improved / pluggable Refresh
    • 170832 (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams)
    • 170922 (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
    • 170915 (DaveD, DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API
  • New Europa Requirements from Planning Council Meeting 23-Jan-2007
    • Written ramp down policy by Feb. 23rd --> AI Martin: wait for what Platform does and adapt it
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI create bugzillas for getting rid of Platform Internal access and hook them up with a plan item; Europa requires that these are in the release notes and there is a plan for addressing these in the next major release
    • Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
    • Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now

Communications

  • General code cleanup -- to do right after M4:
    • Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
    • Get rid of commented out source code
    • Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • DaveD going to Florida in February for a week
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
    • Decided to fix the committer meeting slot to 1700 UTC (same as today).

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests;
  • DaveM - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
  • Kushal - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Martin - EclipseCon tutorial; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate Commons.net to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe -

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