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Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.<br/> | Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.<br/> | ||
| − | == | + | == Attendees == |
| − | * IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal | + | * IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal |
| − | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber |
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| − | + | Regrets: | |
| + | * Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton, Javier Montalvo Orus, Radoslav Gerganov | ||
| − | == | + | == Notes == |
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-May-2008]] | * Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-May-2008]] | ||
| − | * '''Skype Call Quality''' | + | * '''Skype Call Quality''' - Very good today, some Echo for Xuan occasionally |
=== '''New Stuff''' === | === '''New Stuff''' === | ||
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* [[TM 3.0 RC2 Testing]] Status (as per yesterday's E-Mail) | * [[TM 3.0 RC2 Testing]] Status (as per yesterday's E-Mail) | ||
| − | ** Test Configurations | + | ** Test Configurations -- especially for {{Bug|231453}} from cross-project list |
| − | *** TM installed into Eclipse 3.4 dropins/ -- That's what we always do | + | *** (no-test) TM installed into Eclipse 3.4 dropins/ -- That's what we always do |
| − | *** TM as part of the JEE Package -- Kevin | + | *** (no-test) TM installed into Eclipse 3.3. -- Martin has target platform against 3.3 now |
| − | *** TM | + | *** '''Test''' TM as part of the JEE Package -- '''AI DaveD''', or Kevin; '''AI Martin''' tell Dave when JEE has TM RC3 |
| − | *** | + | *** '''Test''' TM initial install from TM Update Site -- Martin |
| − | *** TM | + | *** '''Test Ganymede''' TM initial install from Ganymede -- '''AI DaveD''' |
| + | **** Dependencies: When Remotecdt / Discovery selected, CDT / EMF must be installed automatically | ||
| + | **** DaveD: Quicktest on official Ganymede Site with RC2 (today), RC3 again when available | ||
| + | *** '''Test Update Scenarios''' | ||
| + | **** Updating 3.0 to 3.0.1 -- referencing TM site, not Gany site -- 3.0RC3 to I-build -- '''AI Martin''' | ||
| + | **** Updating TM 2.0 to 3.0 -- Eclipse 3.3/TM 2.0 (including discovery, cdt), use TM 3.0 update site, update to TM 3.0 -- '''AI Martin''' | ||
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** Test Areas | ** Test Areas | ||
| − | *** Connection Import / Export | + | *** Connection Import / Export -- '''AI Xuan''' |
| − | *** Documentation: Correct hyperlinks | + | *** Documentation: New Docs for Import/Export, EFS, Useractions? Correct hyperlinks? -- nobody has time |
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=== '''Hot Bugs being discussed''' === | === '''Hot Bugs being discussed''' === | ||
* {{Bug|233461}} Refresh expanded Folders -- IFileService#list to return children and parent in one step, how to be API compatible? | * {{Bug|233461}} Refresh expanded Folders -- IFileService#list to return children and parent in one step, how to be API compatible? | ||
| − | ** | + | ** DaveM: Not in favor of changing API, don't expect getFile() to be expensive, Cache in Service Layer. Against explicit API change. Plain semantic change is the least of the evils. |
| − | ** | + | ** Martin against Caching on Service Layer. |
| − | * {{Bug|235221}} Files truncated on exit of Eclipse | + | ** Original bug as specified must be fixed - want the fix in there as soon as possible, because it fixes IRemoteFile problems |
| − | * {{Bug|199596}} [refresh][ftp] Changing a file/folder's Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile -- is it fixed now? | + | ** '''AI Martin''' can easily adapt unittests to run performance metrics |
| − | * {{Bug|234038}} [files][refresh] Changing file permissions does not update property sheet or refresh tree -- is it fixed? | + | ** Split up the bug: Original {{Bug|233461}} for the original problem only, include a small patch WITHOUT API change but with unittests. Create a new bug for the API Changes / Preformance Improvements, with the 2nd part of the patch. Discuss API separately. Original bug to be committed into an I-build today. '''AI Martin and Dave''' to hook up on Skype later today. |
| − | * {{Bug|235145}} Remove Create Project Action | + | * {{Bug|235600}} Downrev ftp, local, ssh, telnet features to 2.1.0 was intentional! |
| + | * {{Bug|235221}} Files truncated on exit of Eclipse -- '''AI DaveD''' prioritize bug | ||
| + | * {{Bug|199596}} [refresh][ftp] Changing a file/folder's Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile -- is it fixed now? -- patch not yet committed? | ||
| + | * {{Bug|234038}} [files][refresh] Changing file permissions does not update property sheet or refresh tree -- is it fixed? -- patch not yet committed? -- '''AI DaveM''' create new bug for Tableview | ||
| + | * {{Bug|235145}} Remove Create Project Action -- '''AI DaveD''': Document the process of creating a remote project, but get rid of the action? - Martin: See FAQ, [[TM and RSE FAQ#Why is the Outline View empty when editing a remote PHP or C file?]] | ||
| + | ** Decision: Action is not ready for products, therefore remove it now or allow to programmatically disable it | ||
* {{Bug|234026}} [apidoc] IFileService#createFolder() does not specify whether parent folders are created | * {{Bug|234026}} [apidoc] IFileService#createFolder() does not specify whether parent folders are created | ||
| − | * {{Bug|227750}} [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems | + | ** Update Service Docs and Impl to make the Service create parent folders |
| − | * {{Bug|230917}} [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail | + | * {{Bug|227750}} [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1 |
| − | + | * {{Bug|230917}} [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- '''AI Xuan''' look at, probably move to 3.0.1 during weekend | |
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| − | + | === '''Other Stuff''' === | |
| − | + | * Ganymede Promotions - Screencast (until June 15), New&Noteworthy | |
| + | * Javier - deactivated as Committer because he | ||
| + | * Anna Dushistova to become Committer | ||
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== Vacation, away == | == Vacation, away == | ||
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** Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail) | ** Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail) | ||
** Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests | ** Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests | ||
| − | * '''DaveD''': | + | * '''DaveD''': Test initial install of RC2 from Ganymede (CDT, EMF dependencies!); Test JEE package (when available as RC3); Prioritize {{Bug|235221}}; Commit {{Bug|234215}}; Prepare EFS Userdocs along the lines of [[TM and RSE FAQ#Why is the Outline View empty when editing a remote PHP or C file?]] |
| − | * '''DaveM''': {{bug|233480}} - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension | + | * '''DaveM''': Commit {{bug|199596}}, {{bug|234038}}; File new bug for tableview issue; work with Martin on {{bug|233461}}; {{bug|233480}} - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension |
* '''Kevin''': - | * '''Kevin''': - | ||
* '''Rupen''': - | * '''Rupen''': - | ||
| − | * '''Xuan''': | + | * '''Xuan''': Text Import/Export; Look at {{Bug|230917}} Archive Handler Unittests |
| − | * '''Martin''': Update | + | * '''Martin''': Run performance tests for {{bug|233461}}; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Tell DaveD when JEE RC3 is ready; Prepare I-build for {{bug|233461}} when done; Update Project Plan; File new bug for {{bug|165171}}; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan |
* '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | * '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | ||
* '''Michael''': Terminal: Try to fix {{bug|185348}}, {{bug|204796}} | * '''Michael''': Terminal: Try to fix {{bug|185348}}, {{bug|204796}} | ||
* '''Uwe''': - | * '''Uwe''': - | ||
| − | * '''Rado''': | + | * '''Rado''': - |
* '''Felix''': - | * '''Felix''': - | ||
* '''Eugene''': - | * '''Eugene''': - | ||
== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
| − | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting | + | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008]] (4 days) at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2008&month=6&day=9&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1600 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1100 Rochester / 1200 Toronto / 1800 Salzburg] |
* Monthly [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7&day=2&year=2008&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 9am PST / 1600 UTC] | * Monthly [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7&day=2&year=2008&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 9am PST / 1600 UTC] | ||
Latest revision as of 12:35, 5 June 2008
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Thursday June 5, 2008 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg |
| Dial-in: | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber
Regrets:
- Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton, Javier Montalvo Orus, Radoslav Gerganov
Notes
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-May-2008
- Skype Call Quality - Very good today, some Echo for Xuan occasionally
New Stuff
- DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
- We have RC3, so from now on EVERY checkin must get a +1 by two reviewers BEFORE (except emergencies, documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
- Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale
- TM 3.0 RC2 Testing Status (as per yesterday's E-Mail)
- Test Configurations -- especially for bug 231453 from cross-project list
- (no-test) TM installed into Eclipse 3.4 dropins/ -- That's what we always do
- (no-test) TM installed into Eclipse 3.3. -- Martin has target platform against 3.3 now
- Test TM as part of the JEE Package -- AI DaveD, or Kevin; AI Martin tell Dave when JEE has TM RC3
- Test TM initial install from TM Update Site -- Martin
- Test Ganymede TM initial install from Ganymede -- AI DaveD
- Dependencies: When Remotecdt / Discovery selected, CDT / EMF must be installed automatically
- DaveD: Quicktest on official Ganymede Site with RC2 (today), RC3 again when available
- Test Update Scenarios
- Updating 3.0 to 3.0.1 -- referencing TM site, not Gany site -- 3.0RC3 to I-build -- AI Martin
- Updating TM 2.0 to 3.0 -- Eclipse 3.3/TM 2.0 (including discovery, cdt), use TM 3.0 update site, update to TM 3.0 -- AI Martin
- Test Configurations -- especially for bug 231453 from cross-project list
- Test Areas
- Connection Import / Export -- AI Xuan
- Documentation: New Docs for Import/Export, EFS, Useractions? Correct hyperlinks? -- nobody has time
- Test Areas
Hot Bugs being discussed
- bug 233461 Refresh expanded Folders -- IFileService#list to return children and parent in one step, how to be API compatible?
- DaveM: Not in favor of changing API, don't expect getFile() to be expensive, Cache in Service Layer. Against explicit API change. Plain semantic change is the least of the evils.
- Martin against Caching on Service Layer.
- Original bug as specified must be fixed - want the fix in there as soon as possible, because it fixes IRemoteFile problems
- AI Martin can easily adapt unittests to run performance metrics
- Split up the bug: Original bug 233461 for the original problem only, include a small patch WITHOUT API change but with unittests. Create a new bug for the API Changes / Preformance Improvements, with the 2nd part of the patch. Discuss API separately. Original bug to be committed into an I-build today. AI Martin and Dave to hook up on Skype later today.
- bug 235600 Downrev ftp, local, ssh, telnet features to 2.1.0 was intentional!
- bug 235221 Files truncated on exit of Eclipse -- AI DaveD prioritize bug
- bug 199596 [refresh][ftp] Changing a file/folder's Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile -- is it fixed now? -- patch not yet committed?
- bug 234038 [files][refresh] Changing file permissions does not update property sheet or refresh tree -- is it fixed? -- patch not yet committed? -- AI DaveM create new bug for Tableview
- bug 235145 Remove Create Project Action -- AI DaveD: Document the process of creating a remote project, but get rid of the action? - Martin: See FAQ, TM and RSE FAQ#Why is the Outline View empty when editing a remote PHP or C file?
- Decision: Action is not ready for products, therefore remove it now or allow to programmatically disable it
- bug 234026 [apidoc] IFileService#createFolder() does not specify whether parent folders are created
- Update Service Docs and Impl to make the Service create parent folders
- bug 227750 [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1
- bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at, probably move to 3.0.1 during weekend
Other Stuff
- Ganymede Promotions - Screencast (until June 15), New&Noteworthy
- Javier - deactivated as Committer because he
- Anna Dushistova to become Committer
- New and Noteworthy - Martin to get started and ask others to contribute
Vacation, away
- Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
- DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
- DaveD in July
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone:
- Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 / 3.1 what we can
- Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table;
- Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail)
- Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
- DaveD: Test initial install of RC2 from Ganymede (CDT, EMF dependencies!); Test JEE package (when available as RC3); Prioritize bug 235221; Commit bug 234215; Prepare EFS Userdocs along the lines of TM and RSE FAQ#Why is the Outline View empty when editing a remote PHP or C file?
- DaveM: Commit bug 199596, bug 234038; File new bug for tableview issue; work with Martin on bug 233461; bug 233480 - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension
- Kevin: -
- Rupen: -
- Xuan: Text Import/Export; Look at bug 230917 Archive Handler Unittests
- Martin: Run performance tests for bug 233461; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Tell DaveD when JEE RC3 is ready; Prepare I-build for bug 233461 when done; Update Project Plan; File new bug for bug 165171; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan
- Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
- Michael: Terminal: Try to fix bug 185348, bug 204796
- Uwe: -
- Rado: -
- Felix: -
- Eugene: -