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== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
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* IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
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* IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir, Michael Berger
 
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber
 
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber
  
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* Our top goals
 
* Our top goals
 
** Enable Community Participation, grow the Community
 
** Enable Community Participation, grow the Community
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*** That's the #1 requirement for release review - active user and adopter communities.
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*** We get those through providing something useful for them, and helping them adopt it (tutorial, docs, mailinglist help)
 
** Get the APIs Right
 
** Get the APIs Right
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*** We need to enable API discussions in public.
 
** Get our Processes in place
 
** Get our Processes in place
 
* Process/IP/Legal
 
* Process/IP/Legal
 
** Comfortable with bugzilla and CVS processes? - [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/index.php TM Developer Resources]
 
** Comfortable with bugzilla and CVS processes? - [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/index.php TM Developer Resources]
 
** tm-log.csv -- questions?
 
** tm-log.csv -- questions?
 +
*** Logging on a per-contribution basis: if multiple patches are on a single bugzilla, each is a line in the log.
 +
*** Update-change-Commit the log early to avoid merging or making it a bottleneck.
 
** recent contributions: docs, junit, user-actions, import/export
 
** recent contributions: docs, junit, user-actions, import/export
 
* RSE/EFS discussion
 
* RSE/EFS discussion
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** [[Eclipse File Service APIs Compared]]
 
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** Can we make EFS a Plan item? Any big rocks to overcome? Get help from Tianchao?
 
 
** [[RSE API Discussion]]
 
** [[RSE API Discussion]]
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*** Don't want to make this page a duplicate of the docs. Want to drive API discussions over the javadoc.
 +
*** Need to reconcile the javadoc with the Wiki page -- make some classes / interfaces internal
 +
*** Want the Wiki page to be a directory into what's going on / being planned.
 
*** SystemMessages API?
 
*** SystemMessages API?
 +
** [[Eclipse File Service APIs Compared]]
 +
*** Can we make EFS a Plan item? Any big rocks to overcome? Get help from Tianchao?
 +
*** Continue discussion with Tianchao; concerned that he only sees "files" while there are other subsystems.
 +
*** Eclipse 3.2 has chicken&egg problems when creating projects, because temp files are stored in the RemoteSystemsTempFiles project. This leads to race conditions - not sure how to address this, DaveM has a patch for Eclipse to make it work. For now, JDT or CDT do not yet support EFS (Patch from Tianchao for CDT is on [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142092 bug 142092])
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*** EFS support will most probably remain a Toy until release.
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*** An EFS Browser in RSE seems to be a valuable thing -- could be based on the "Local" system type. Would be a great project for somebody to do, but the RSE core team will not have time to address this soon -- perhaps as an Example late in August.
 
** [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
 
** [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
 
* Give better access to docs?
 
* Give better access to docs?
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** Online browseable docs?
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** Online browseable docs? - AI Martin: Get this set up
 
** Downloadable compiled docs?
 
** Downloadable compiled docs?
 
** Update Site?
 
** Update Site?
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** DaveM - bugfixing, drive the API discussions, ML duty
 
** DaveM - bugfixing, drive the API discussions, ML duty
 
** Kushal - wizard completely replaceable, ui/non-ui refactoring
 
** Kushal - wizard completely replaceable, ui/non-ui refactoring
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** Martin - Process Docs, Press Text, Tutorial/Getting Started, ssh fixes, api and doc reviews
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** Martin - Process Docs, Press Text, Tutorial/Getting Started, ssh fixes, api and doc reviews, Doc Server
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==

Revision as of 11:11, 31 May 2006

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday May 31, 2006 at 6.30am PDT / 8.30am CDT / 9.30am Toronto / 3.30pm Salzburg
Dial-in: Skype martin.oberhuber, ddykstal, david-k-mcknight, kushal_munir, mikey_yo

Fixed-line fallback dial-in:

  • International +1 314-655-1411
  • North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free)
  • Passcode: 764918

Attendees

  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir, Michael Berger
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber

Agenda

  • Our top goals
    • Enable Community Participation, grow the Community
      • That's the #1 requirement for release review - active user and adopter communities.
      • We get those through providing something useful for them, and helping them adopt it (tutorial, docs, mailinglist help)
    • Get the APIs Right
      • We need to enable API discussions in public.
    • Get our Processes in place
  • Process/IP/Legal
    • Comfortable with bugzilla and CVS processes? - TM Developer Resources
    • tm-log.csv -- questions?
      • Logging on a per-contribution basis: if multiple patches are on a single bugzilla, each is a line in the log.
      • Update-change-Commit the log early to avoid merging or making it a bottleneck.
    • recent contributions: docs, junit, user-actions, import/export
  • RSE/EFS discussion
    • RSE API Discussion
      • Don't want to make this page a duplicate of the docs. Want to drive API discussions over the javadoc.
      • Need to reconcile the javadoc with the Wiki page -- make some classes / interfaces internal
      • Want the Wiki page to be a directory into what's going on / being planned.
      • SystemMessages API?
    • Eclipse File Service APIs Compared
      • Can we make EFS a Plan item? Any big rocks to overcome? Get help from Tianchao?
      • Continue discussion with Tianchao; concerned that he only sees "files" while there are other subsystems.
      • Eclipse 3.2 has chicken&egg problems when creating projects, because temp files are stored in the RemoteSystemsTempFiles project. This leads to race conditions - not sure how to address this, DaveM has a patch for Eclipse to make it work. For now, JDT or CDT do not yet support EFS (Patch from Tianchao for CDT is on bug 142092)
      • EFS support will most probably remain a Toy until release.
      • An EFS Browser in RSE seems to be a valuable thing -- could be based on the "Local" system type. Would be a great project for somebody to do, but the RSE core team will not have time to address this soon -- perhaps as an Example late in August.
    • RSE 2.0 Planning
  • Give better access to docs?
    • Online browseable docs? - AI Martin: Get this set up
    • Downloadable compiled docs?
    • Update Site?
  • Mailing List Duty
    • All committers should be active on the mailing lists
  • Bugzilla Situation - use "Rember Search as.." in Bugzilla
  • Last meeting action items
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
  • Next steps
    • DaveD - contributions(junit, user-actions, import/export), automated builds, bugfixing
    • DaveM - bugfixing, drive the API discussions, ML duty
    • Kushal - wizard completely replaceable, ui/non-ui refactoring
    • Martin - Process Docs, Press Text, Tutorial/Getting Started, ssh fixes, api and doc reviews, Doc Server

Next Meeting

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