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== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
* IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
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* IBM - Dave McKnight, (Dave Dykstal n/a, Kushal Munir n/a)
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams
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* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, (Ted Williams n/a)
 
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This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
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== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
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| DaveD  || 80% || Preparations in Persistence for User Actions || 80%
 
| DaveD  || 80% || Preparations in Persistence for User Actions || 80%
 
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| DaveM  || 70% || EclipseCon; Bugs || 70%
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| DaveM  || 50% || EclipseCon; Bugs; || 50%
 
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| Kushal  || 0% || Encodings; starting [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150265 bug 150265] for Javier; EFS || 100%
 
| Kushal  || 0% || Encodings; starting [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150265 bug 150265] for Javier; EFS || 100%
 
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| Javier  || 20% || || 20%
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| Javier  || 20% || PluginFest; Going to do FTP passive mode and FTP anonymous login this week || 50%
 
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| Ted    || 0% || || 0%
 
| Ted    || 0% || || 0%
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| Uwe    || 0% || || 0%
 
| Uwe    || 0% || || 0%
 
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| Michael || 0% || || 0%
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| Michael || 0% || Started work on Terminal performance improvements || 20%
 
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* PluginFest: Javier might extend the Symbian internal remote framebuffer work to allow other RFB protocols, e.g. VNC
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** Motorola is interested
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** Michael: the Visual Editor (ve) people seem to do something similar - copying a screen from some external window
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** Michael: IBM integrated Lotus Notes in Eclipse, mapping the Notes views into Eclipse
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** Javier registered for a Short Talk at EclipseCon
  
 
=== Upcoming Work ===
 
=== Upcoming Work ===
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* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
 
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
 
* [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
 
* [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
** '''1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation'''
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** '''1. Play well with the Platform'''
*** '''Make stuff internal'''
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**** SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
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*** UI/Non-UI separation (Condition of Satisfaction: be able to do a headless launch; try to reduce number of plugins? - DaveM be able to use service layer without profiles, persistence etc.; DaveM could envision service layer as part of ECF or similar; put subsystem.files together with subsystem.files)
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*** Be able to do ssh non-ui only? Would need an API for password / passphrase prompting in RSE core.
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*** SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands;
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*** read-only flags [java.io: cannot change a file to writable] want a capability API for services to report if they can set r-o or not? - Not yet, just report an error.
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*** timestamp, ro-flags: still TBD for ssh and ftp
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*** Streams for IHostShell, IFileService - upload already allows an InputStream; download will need new API; may be a problem for dstore since the agent "pushes" the file; ftp allows canceling the download
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*** Asynchronous API/callbacks; How is the client informed about job completion? Event? Callback? Progressmonitor? - Progressmonitor is created by the job typically, so we have no control over the progress [could use a SubProgressMonitor]? Use Java5 Concurrency classes?
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*** IHostShell changes for Terminal;
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** '''2. Make EFS work'''
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*** Kushal looking at it - problem is the strictness of resource locking / scheduling rules
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*** What about putting EFS directly on top of IFileService without using the cache? Might avoid scheduling rules; might require further extensions of IFileService
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** '''3. Play well with the Platform'''
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*** get rid of platform "internal" access; this may also mean getting rid of customized extension points for adding actions
 
*** get rid of platform "internal" access; this may also mean getting rid of customized extension points for adding actions
 
*** retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
 
*** retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
** '''4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
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*** AI: Martin to enable compiler warnings for internal access
** '''5. New Features'''
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*** DaveM to check
*** Import/Export & User actions; Terminal-in-rse; Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
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** '''2. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation'''
* Think about '''limiting the API''': Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
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*** Make stuff internal: SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
** Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
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** Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
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* Add Montavista shell processes subsystem
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* '''Fix N-builds''' (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
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** Orbit bundles to be added differently
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** Unittests to run every night
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** Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
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** Copyright Year Changes
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* '''Compiler Warnings'''
 
* '''Compiler Warnings'''
 
** Good progress, please continue. Most warnings are javadoc warnings now. See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php#check_code Committer Howto] for settings
 
** Good progress, please continue. Most warnings are javadoc warnings now. See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php#check_code Committer Howto] for settings
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*** 221 -> 250 -> 248 -> 27 subsystems.files.core
 
*** 221 -> 250 -> 248 -> 27 subsystems.files.core
 
*** 1622 -> 346 -> 293 -> 192 rse.ui (mostly javadoc)
 
*** 1622 -> 346 -> 293 -> 192 rse.ui (mostly javadoc)
* '''Quality'''
 
** '''Docs are a high priority'''. Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review, and improve all docs
 
  
 
=== Communications ===
 
=== Communications ===
* General code cleanup -- to do right after M4:
 
** Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
 
** Get rid of commented out source code
 
** Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)
 
* Change Requests
 
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
** DaveD going to Chicago end of the month; Florida in February for a week
 
** DaveD going to Chicago end of the month; Florida in February for a week
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
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** Decided to fix the committer meeting slot to 1700 UTC (same as today) to avoid confusion due to changing meeting time.
  
 
== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
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* '''DaveM''' - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
 
* '''DaveM''' - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
 
* '''Kushal''' - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
 
* '''Kushal''' - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
* '''Martin''' - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Fix build; EclipseCon tutorial; Bugs & Unit Tests; Plan Item Specifications; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]; [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
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* '''Martin''' - EclipseCon tutorial; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate Commons.net to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
* '''Javier''' - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Bugs & Unit Tests,
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* '''Javier''' - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
 
* '''Ted''' -  
 
* '''Ted''' -  
 
* '''Michael''' - Terminal Performance Improvements
 
* '''Michael''' - Terminal Performance Improvements
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== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 6-Feb-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=1&day=23hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1600 UTC]
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* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 6-Feb-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=2&day=6hour=17&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1700 UTC]
 
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 7-Feb-2007]] at 9am PST
 
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 7-Feb-2007]] at 9am PST
  

Latest revision as of 14:31, 30 January 2007

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Jan 30, 2007 at 1700 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Contents

[edit] Attendees

  • IBM - Dave McKnight, (Dave Dykstal n/a, Kushal Munir n/a)
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, (Ted Williams n/a)

[edit] Notes

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

[edit] Latest News

Martin 50% Created project plan; PluginFest; Worked with Platform on ssh prefs; Added symlinks to EFS; mail&news; EclipseCon 50%
DaveD 80% Preparations in Persistence for User Actions 80%
DaveM 50% EclipseCon; Bugs; 50%
Kushal 0% Encodings; starting bug 150265 for Javier; EFS 100%
Javier 20% PluginFest; Going to do FTP passive mode and FTP anonymous login this week 50%
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 0% 0%
Michael 0% Started work on Terminal performance improvements 20%
  • PluginFest: Javier might extend the Symbian internal remote framebuffer work to allow other RFB protocols, e.g. VNC
    • Motorola is interested
    • Michael: the Visual Editor (ve) people seem to do something similar - copying a screen from some external window
    • Michael: IBM integrated Lotus Notes in Eclipse, mapping the Notes views into Eclipse
    • Javier registered for a Short Talk at EclipseCon

[edit] Upcoming Work

  • Top priority this week is work on the feature "big rocks" in bugzilla, for RSE 2.0 Planning
    • Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API
  • New Europa Requirements from Planning Council Meeting 23-Jan-2007
    • Written ramp down policy by Feb. 23rd --> AI Martin: wait for what Platform does and adapt it
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI create bugzillas for getting rid of Platform Internal access and hook them up with a plan item; Europa requires that these are in the release notes and there is a plan for addressing these in the next major release
      • AI re-enable compiler warnings for non-API; fix still open compiler warnings
    • Report Strings for translation --> AI DaveD report to Bjorn
    • Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
    • Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
  • RSE 2.0 Planning
    • 1. Play well with the Platform
      • get rid of platform "internal" access; this may also mean getting rid of customized extension points for adding actions
      • retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
      • AI: Martin to enable compiler warnings for internal access
      • DaveM to check
    • 2. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
      • Make stuff internal: SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
  • Compiler Warnings
    • Good progress, please continue. Most warnings are javadoc warnings now. See the Committer Howto for settings
      • 109 -> 113 -> 113 -> 3 connectorservice.dstore
      • 176 -> 265 -> 161 -> 12 rse.core
      • 474 -> 558 -> 558 -> 94 files.ui
      • 637 -> 662 -> 662 -> 23 services (javadoc)
      • 221 -> 250 -> 248 -> 27 subsystems.files.core
      • 1622 -> 346 -> 293 -> 192 rse.ui (mostly javadoc)

[edit] Communications

  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • DaveD going to Chicago end of the month; Florida in February for a week
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
    • Decided to fix the committer meeting slot to 1700 UTC (same as today) to avoid confusion due to changing meeting time.

[edit] Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests;
  • DaveM - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
  • Kushal - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Martin - EclipseCon tutorial; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate Commons.net to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe -

[edit] Next Meeting