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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.<br/>
 
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.<br/>
 
'''Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call.''' MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.<br/>  
 
'''Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call.''' MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.<br/>  
Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov.<br/>
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Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.<br/>
  
== Invited Attendees ==
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== Attendees ==
* IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
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* IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
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* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Felix Burton
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
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* ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
* Private - Radoslav Gerganov
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This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
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Committers not at the call today
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* Kevin, Xuan, Michael, Uwe, Eugene, Javier
  
== Agenda ==
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== Notes ==
 
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Apr-2008]]
 
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Apr-2008]]
 
* '''Skype Call Quality'''
 
* '''Skype Call Quality'''
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** Bad this time, as soon as more than 3 participants. Martin had started the conf via ADSL from home, limited bandwidth was likely the reason -- looks like the meeting organizer needs lots of bandwidth. Fell back to fixed line, Rado used Skype into the 800 conf number successfully.
  
 
=== '''New Stuff''' ===
 
=== '''New Stuff''' ===
* Welcome new Committers
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* Welcome new Committers - '''Felix''', '''Rado'''
* [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]]
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* [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]] - '''AI Everyone''' Review again and comment on dsdp-tm-dev if any questions.
 
* Committers be bold and self-confident
 
* Committers be bold and self-confident
* IP due diligence: "contributed" keyword and tm-log.csv; target milestone
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* IP due diligence: "contributed" keyword and tm-log.csv; target milestone - '''AI DaveD''' update tm-log.csv for rupe. '''AI DaveM''' add contributed kwd.
* Javadoc API Tooling API Comments (@noextend and friends) - {{Bug|227368}}, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 4] and [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 6]
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* Javadoc API Tooling API Comments (@noextend and friends) - {{Bug|227368}}, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 4] and [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 6] - '''AI Martin''' Extract Eclipse SDK onto dsdp.eclipse.org and post the link; '''AI Martin''' post where to find textual paragraph form "method extend" variant.
 
* {{Bug|227213}} Folder duplication by dragging to parent folder - "Duplicate Of" or Rename? - Need consensus and Owner
 
* {{Bug|227213}} Folder duplication by dragging to parent folder - "Duplicate Of" or Rename? - Need consensus and Owner
 
** Rupen: automatically do "Copy of" because in case of multiselect, users would get n dialogs asking for rename/overwrite
 
** Rupen: automatically do "Copy of" because in case of multiselect, users would get n dialogs asking for rename/overwrite
 
** Martin: Should try to auto-select the generated copies such that users can delete easily in case the copy happened unintentionally
 
** Martin: Should try to auto-select the generated copies such that users can delete easily in case the copy happened unintentionally
 
** DaveM: Be Consistent with Eclipse Workspace ("Copy of")
 
** DaveM: Be Consistent with Eclipse Workspace ("Copy of")
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** '''Decision to use "Copy of" approach. Rupen has a working prototype. '''AI Rupen''' attach patch
 
* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Target+Management&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=pii&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit PII Bugs] till May 8
 
* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Target+Management&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=pii&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit PII Bugs] till May 8
 
* Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 patches] (see also the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] for a query)
 
* Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 patches] (see also the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] for a query)
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** '''AI Martin''' mark Rado's bug fixed
  
 
=== Committer Status and Report ===
 
=== Committer Status and Report ===
* '''Javier''' - New Employer in Barcelona
 
 
* '''DaveD''' -  
 
* '''DaveD''' -  
** {{bug|189274}} Import/export connections
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** {{bug|189274}} Import/export connections - this enhancement is finished, but may need some tweaking as it is used.
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** {{bug|226561}} Should finish up with marking today. Will then pass bug report to someone else.
 
* '''DaveM:''' -  
 
* '''DaveM:''' -  
** JUnit should autotest dstore against old servers as well - an IBM thing
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* '''Martin:''' - GSoC student Takuya Miyamoto for {{Bug|185925}}
* '''Kevin:''' -
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* '''Xuan:''' -
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* '''Martin:''' - {{bug|215301}} New project plan format -- Need to put Project Plan on the Web; '''AI Martin''' written ramp-down plan; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
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** JSch-0.1.37 done in Platform M6, Commons.Net 1.5.0 not yet released - '''AI Martin''' create placeholder CQ
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** Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels
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** {{Bug|221190}} EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly
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** GSoC student Takuya Miyamoto for {{Bug|185925}}
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* '''Uwe:''' -
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* '''Rupen:''' -  
 
* '''Rupen:''' -  
* '''Michael:''' -
 
* '''Eugene:''' -
 
 
* '''Rado:''' -
 
* '''Rado:''' -
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* '''Felix:''' -
 
* '''Questions'''
 
* '''Questions'''
 
=== Future and Planning ===
 
* '''Planning''' - '''AI Martin''' to write up what we discussed in Toronto
 
** Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not? - DaveD Mylyn is nice for bug review!
 
** {{Bug|215301}} New Standard Project Plan Format
 
* TM Website
 
** '''AI Kevin''' follow up on his website proposals
 
 
=== '''Old Stuff'''
 
* '''Unit Tests''' - next priority after API
 
* Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)
 
* Finalizing all features for M7 Feature Freeze
 
* {{Bug|221211}} MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. '''AI DaveD/DaveM''' update Javadocs when it's clear what we want
 
* {{Bug|220379}} Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter - is this fixed now that IService is IAdaptable as per {{bug|226262}}? '''AI DaveM''' ask reporters
 
* {{Bug|220547}} SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local - '''AI DaveM''' think about
 
  
 
* '''Bugzilla''':  
 
* '''Bugzilla''':  
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority]
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority]
 
* '''Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests'''
 
** Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
 
** Since our [[DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007]] it's now 31 weeks / 5 milestones, so each committer is due 62 fixes / 10 unittests
 
** Current situation is on [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=&y_axis_field=assigned_to&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2007-09-17&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&format=table&action=wrap&negate0=1&field0-0-0=resolution&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=DUPLICATE this bugzilla report]
 
** Unittests: when adding a test, please add the tag '''//-test-author:YourName''' in front of it
 
*** DaveM - 5
 
*** DaveD - 22
 
*** KevinD - 11
 
*** MartinO - 3
 
*** TobiasS - 3
 
*** UweS - 7
 
*** XuanC - 51
 
*** '''Total - 101'''
 
*** Javier - 0
 
  
 
== Vacation, away ==  
 
== Vacation, away ==  
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Apr-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Apr-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''Everyone''': '''Fix PII Issues'''; '''Add @noextend etc''' according to [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] table
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* '''Everyone''': '''Fix PII Issues'''; '''Add @noextend etc''' according to [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] table; Review [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]]
* '''Rupen''':
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* '''DaveD''': Merge Rupens patches; Update {{bug|221211}} IFileService multi-commands Javadoc
* '''DaveD''': Merge Rupens patches; Finish profile import/export; Update {{bug|221211}} IFileService multi-commands Javadoc
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* '''DaveM''': create a new "Future" bug for dstore protocol handshake, cloned from {{bug|220892}}
* '''DaveM''': Create bugs for 2 reported issues; contact IBM teams for {{bug|220379}} DStoreFileService API; think about {{bug|216252}} SystemMessages global vs. local message ID; create a new "Future" bug for dstore protocol handshake, cloned from {{bug|220892}}
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* '''Kevin''': Website Updates
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* '''Rupen''': Attach prototype patch for {{bug|227213}}
 
* '''Xuan''': Upgrade Skype to fix quality issues; Use Kevin's Properties for Unit Tests
 
* '''Xuan''': Upgrade Skype to fix quality issues; Use Kevin's Properties for Unit Tests
* '''Kevin''': Website Updates
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* '''Martin''': New Project Plan; Commons Net Placeholder CQ; UI/Non-UI Splitting; finish new releng; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests
* '''Martin''': New Project Plan; Ganymede Rampdown Plan; Commons Net Placeholder CQ; UI/Non-UI Splitting; finish new releng; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests
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* '''Javier''': add unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204138#c20 CVS] -- see also [[CVS_Development#Testing]]
 
* '''Javier''': add unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204138#c20 CVS] -- see also [[CVS_Development#Testing]]
 
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements
 
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements
* '''Uwe''': Add @noextend / @noimplement to New Connection Wizard where appropriate
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* '''Uwe''':  
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* '''Rado''':
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* '''Felix''':
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==

Latest revision as of 13:10, 30 April 2008

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Apr 30, 2008 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Barcelona+Salzburg
Dial-in: Martin to call everybody by Skype

Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.

Contents

[edit] Attendees

  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Felix Burton
  • ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov

Committers not at the call today

  • Kevin, Xuan, Michael, Uwe, Eugene, Javier

[edit] Notes

  • Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Apr-2008
  • Skype Call Quality
    • Bad this time, as soon as more than 3 participants. Martin had started the conf via ADSL from home, limited bandwidth was likely the reason -- looks like the meeting organizer needs lots of bandwidth. Fell back to fixed line, Rado used Skype into the 800 conf number successfully.

[edit] New Stuff

  • Welcome new Committers - Felix, Rado
  • DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede - AI Everyone Review again and comment on dsdp-tm-dev if any questions.
  • Committers be bold and self-confident
  • IP due diligence: "contributed" keyword and tm-log.csv; target milestone - AI DaveD update tm-log.csv for rupe. AI DaveM add contributed kwd.
  • Javadoc API Tooling API Comments (@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - AI Martin Extract Eclipse SDK onto dsdp.eclipse.org and post the link; AI Martin post where to find textual paragraph form "method extend" variant.
  • bug 227213 Folder duplication by dragging to parent folder - "Duplicate Of" or Rename? - Need consensus and Owner
    • Rupen: automatically do "Copy of" because in case of multiselect, users would get n dialogs asking for rename/overwrite
    • Martin: Should try to auto-select the generated copies such that users can delete easily in case the copy happened unintentionally
    • DaveM: Be Consistent with Eclipse Workspace ("Copy of")
    • Decision to use "Copy of" approach. Rupen has a working prototype. AI Rupen attach patch
  • PII Bugs till May 8
  • Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply patches (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)
    • AI Martin mark Rado's bug fixed

[edit] Committer Status and Report

  • DaveD -
    • bug 189274 Import/export connections - this enhancement is finished, but may need some tweaking as it is used.
    • bug 226561 Should finish up with marking today. Will then pass bug report to someone else.
  • DaveM: -
  • Martin: - GSoC student Takuya Miyamoto for bug 185925
  • Rupen: -
  • Rado: -
  • Felix: -
  • Questions

[edit] Vacation, away

  • MartinO public holiday Thurs May 1; in Ottawa for E4/Summit May 22-23 .. want to meet in Toronto?
  • Rupen May 8-15
  • MartinO vacation June 11 - 22
  • DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
  • DaveD in July -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then

[edit] Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • Everyone: Fix PII Issues; Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table; Review DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
  • DaveD: Merge Rupens patches; Update bug 221211 IFileService multi-commands Javadoc
  • DaveM: create a new "Future" bug for dstore protocol handshake, cloned from bug 220892
  • Kevin: Website Updates
  • Rupen: Attach prototype patch for bug 227213
  • Xuan: Upgrade Skype to fix quality issues; Use Kevin's Properties for Unit Tests
  • Martin: New Project Plan; Commons Net Placeholder CQ; UI/Non-UI Splitting; finish new releng; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests
  • Javier: add unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to CVS -- see also CVS_Development#Testing
  • Michael: Terminal improvements
  • Uwe:
  • Rado:
  • Felix:

[edit] Next Meeting