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=== TM 2.0M6 Testing ===
 
=== TM 2.0M6 Testing ===
 
* [[TM 2.0 M6 Testing]]
 
* [[TM 2.0 M6 Testing]]
** Everybody OK with the signup?
 
 
** MUST use Eclipse M6
 
** MUST use Eclipse M6
** Will do a new test candidate every day, with a note what changed compared to the previous one. Start each morning with testing, fix bugs in the afternoon. Cronjob will build a new candidate over night.
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** Will do a new test candidate every day, with a note what changed compared to the previous one. Start each morning with testing, fix bugs in the afternoon. Cronjob will build a new candidate over night. (Plan approved)
  
 
=== Bugs and open work to be discussed ===
 
=== Bugs and open work to be discussed ===
  
* General Info
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* '''General Info'''
 
** Will need to make some API work in the M7 time frame. Try to have not too many of these, though.
 
** Will need to make some API work in the M7 time frame. Try to have not too many of these, though.
 
** Others will need to be deferred to post-2.0. Looks like we'll probably have TM 3.0 next year rather than TM 2.1. Will discuss in the Monthly meeting tomorrow
 
** Others will need to be deferred to post-2.0. Looks like we'll probably have TM 3.0 next year rather than TM 2.1. Will discuss in the Monthly meeting tomorrow
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** Reference Platforms: Solaris-Motif to be discontinued
 
** Reference Platforms: Solaris-Motif to be discontinued
  
* Major and other important bugs
 
** Restore only a single connection on restart
 
** EFS
 
  
* API bugs
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* '''Major and other important bugs'''
** files.ui: Activator should be internal (util methods to go to RemoteFileUtility)
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Open Major,Critical,Blocker bugs]
** SystemFileFilterStringEditPane should be public to derive from?
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*** (defer M7) Encodings - Kushal, DaveD; mostly BIDI issues (logical vs. visual data); will need ICU, probably some ICU updates; and similar for USS on zSeries
** subsystems.shells.core: What about OutputRefreshJob, its currently needed
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*** (M6) Copy&Paste, Collapse, Wizard Properties - DaveM: ssh was OK also with multiple files, perhaps an FTP issue?
** rse.ui/UI: OK to have massagers internal? Shouldn't these be re-usable by clients?
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*** (M6) Collapse - probably related to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=143458 143458] (Kushal) Refresh changes selection
** '''ImportExport and User Actions''' - make "internal" now so we have a cleaner base towards M7?
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*** (try M6) Programmatic Expand - Martin (Jobs, Async Callbacks)
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=179910 179910] (Kushal) removing unnecessary upload/download - do we really need still 2 upload methods?
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** (defer M7) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180313 180313] Restore only a single connection on restart
** '''Persistence Provider'''
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** (M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180091 180091], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170916 170916] (Kushal) EFS --> '''AI Kushal M6''', do handle operations
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=174945 174945] General code cleanup - get rid of unused icons, comments, properties
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** (try M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] (Martin) Option to avoid deleting children and keeping collapsed state on Refresh --> probably defer
** '''Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it'''
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** (M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=175686 175686], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180692 180692] (Martin) Bundling for CVS, Discovery - feature.properties / feature.xml changes for Europa
  
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
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** Javier out of office except tues and wed
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* '''NLS bugs'''
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
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** (M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=164413 164413] (Kushal) Removing Default System Type Combo? - Note it is currently storing Labels instead of Names/Ids! --> Captures on Apr 6th and another one; user docs captured separately
** IBM contribution of Remote Source Locators and Remote Java Launch - '''AI DaveM''' talk with DaveD, get this started
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*** DaveM: Sometimes next to a "New Connection" combo
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*** DaveD: Remove the Combo for M6, but leave the NL Strings in there for now
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*** '''AI Kushal Remove the Combo, but leave NL Strings'''
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** (defer M7) Renaming Team View --> Profiles View? - '''AI DaveD to investigate'''; discuss on next meeting
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** (defer M7) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=154508 154508] (DaveM) User Docs for SSL --> Reassign to DaveD?
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** (defer M7) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=143412 143412] (DaveD) User Docs for where passwords are stored
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** (defer RC) DaveD Chkpii to get rid of unused Properties? Unused Strings in messages.xml? - chkpii does not do this; do not clean them up now, better leave extra ones in
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 +
 
 +
* '''API bugs'''
 +
** (done, review) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180575 180575] (DaveM) supportsDeferredQueries - Patch from Martin attached -- (done; probably some stuff rejected, '''AI Martin''' to review
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** (M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180562 180562] (DaveM) "implements" for constants only --> '''AI Today'''
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** (done) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180651 180651] (DaveM) Martin's recent "internal" ones -- (done)
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** (try M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163592 163592] (DaveD) API to explicitly save profiles -- Dave working right now on API to avoid automatic commit --> not sure if M6 is possible
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** (defer M7) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168975 168975] (DaveD) Events in ISystemRegistry --> not yet looked at; M7 or later; view mechanism of "originating view" to be removed - fair bit of work; model change events should be signaled to headless
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** (M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180642 180642] (DaveD) testframework.scripting internal - '''AI DaveD today'''
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** (M6+) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=179184 179184], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177332 177332] (DaveD) Persistence Provider: ok for M7 -- want to get in before IBM products migrate
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*** DaveM: For Migration, specify persistence providers that only allow import
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*** DaveD: In WDSC, people are creating profiles themselves
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** (M6+) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180485 180485] (Kushal) Showhidden as View Preference - suggestion included -- Kushal agrees; what to do with the filters? -- Kushal started, '''M6'''; FilterReferenceAdapter, override public Object[] getChildren(IProgressMonitor monitor, IContextObject contextObject); Add API for SubSystemConfigurationAdapter.applyViewFilter(IContextObject parent, Object[] children);
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** (M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177523 177523] (Martin) Unify getInstance()
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** (M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180688 180688] [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=180690 180690] (Martin) SystemSignonInformation.getSystemType(), ISubSystem.getSystemType() --> agreed
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** (try M6) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=175680 175680] [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177128 177128] (Martin) Clean up ISystemRegistry --> not for M6
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* '''Old stuff'''
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** (?) files.ui: Activator should be internal (util methods to go to RemoteFileUtility)
 +
** (?) subsystems.shells.core: What about OutputRefreshJob, its currently needed
 +
** (?) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=179910 179910] (Kushal) removing unnecessary upload/download - do we really need still 2 upload methods?
 +
** (?) [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=174945 174945] General code cleanup - get rid of unused icons, comments, properties
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** (?) Copyright Updates by Martin
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== Vacation, Away ==
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* Kushal out of office for business tomorrow, Wednesday
  
 
== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 29-Mar-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 29-Mar-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
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* '''Everyone''' first test (2 hrs max.), then fix major issues, then look at API. GOAL is to have a good test candidate tomorrow.
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Apr-2007]] open phone call
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Apr-2007]] open phone call
 
* TM 2.0M6 - 6-Apr-2007
 
* TM 2.0M6 - 6-Apr-2007
* [http://www.eclipse.org/community/webinars2006.php TM Webinar] pre-call on [[10-Apr-2007]]; webinar on [[12-Apr-2007]]
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* [http://www.eclipse.org/community/webinars2006.php TM Webinar] pre-call on [[10-Apr-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=4&day=10&hour=14&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1400 UTC]; webinar on [[12-Apr-2007]]
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 10-Apr-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=4&day=10&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1500 UTC]
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 10-Apr-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=4&day=10&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1500 UTC]
  

Latest revision as of 12:55, 3 April 2007

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Apr 3, 2007 at 1500 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Contents

[edit] Attendees

  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, (Ted Williams)

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

[edit] Notes

[edit] TM 2.0M6 Testing

  • TM 2.0 M6 Testing
    • MUST use Eclipse M6
    • Will do a new test candidate every day, with a note what changed compared to the previous one. Start each morning with testing, fix bugs in the afternoon. Cronjob will build a new candidate over night. (Plan approved)

[edit] Bugs and open work to be discussed

  • General Info
    • Will need to make some API work in the M7 time frame. Try to have not too many of these, though.
    • Others will need to be deferred to post-2.0. Looks like we'll probably have TM 3.0 next year rather than TM 2.1. Will discuss in the Monthly meeting tomorrow
    • Fixing functionality has priority over API this week!
    • Reference Platforms: Solaris-Motif to be discontinued


  • Major and other important bugs
    • Open Major,Critical,Blocker bugs
      • (defer M7) Encodings - Kushal, DaveD; mostly BIDI issues (logical vs. visual data); will need ICU, probably some ICU updates; and similar for USS on zSeries
      • (M6) Copy&Paste, Collapse, Wizard Properties - DaveM: ssh was OK also with multiple files, perhaps an FTP issue?
      • (M6) Collapse - probably related to 143458 (Kushal) Refresh changes selection
      • (try M6) Programmatic Expand - Martin (Jobs, Async Callbacks)
    • (defer M7) 180313 Restore only a single connection on restart
    • (M6) 180091, 170916 (Kushal) EFS --> AI Kushal M6, do handle operations
    • (try M6) 173042 (Martin) Option to avoid deleting children and keeping collapsed state on Refresh --> probably defer
    • (M6) 175686, 180692 (Martin) Bundling for CVS, Discovery - feature.properties / feature.xml changes for Europa


  • NLS bugs
    • (M6) 164413 (Kushal) Removing Default System Type Combo? - Note it is currently storing Labels instead of Names/Ids! --> Captures on Apr 6th and another one; user docs captured separately
      • DaveM: Sometimes next to a "New Connection" combo
      • DaveD: Remove the Combo for M6, but leave the NL Strings in there for now
      • AI Kushal Remove the Combo, but leave NL Strings
    • (defer M7) Renaming Team View --> Profiles View? - AI DaveD to investigate; discuss on next meeting
    • (defer M7) 154508 (DaveM) User Docs for SSL --> Reassign to DaveD?
    • (defer M7) 143412 (DaveD) User Docs for where passwords are stored
    • (defer RC) DaveD Chkpii to get rid of unused Properties? Unused Strings in messages.xml? - chkpii does not do this; do not clean them up now, better leave extra ones in


  • API bugs
    • (done, review) 180575 (DaveM) supportsDeferredQueries - Patch from Martin attached -- (done; probably some stuff rejected, AI Martin to review
    • (M6) 180562 (DaveM) "implements" for constants only --> AI Today
    • (done) 180651 (DaveM) Martin's recent "internal" ones -- (done)
    • (try M6) 163592 (DaveD) API to explicitly save profiles -- Dave working right now on API to avoid automatic commit --> not sure if M6 is possible
    • (defer M7) 168975 (DaveD) Events in ISystemRegistry --> not yet looked at; M7 or later; view mechanism of "originating view" to be removed - fair bit of work; model change events should be signaled to headless
    • (M6) 180642 (DaveD) testframework.scripting internal - AI DaveD today
    • (M6+) 179184, 177332 (DaveD) Persistence Provider: ok for M7 -- want to get in before IBM products migrate
      • DaveM: For Migration, specify persistence providers that only allow import
      • DaveD: In WDSC, people are creating profiles themselves
    • (M6+) 180485 (Kushal) Showhidden as View Preference - suggestion included -- Kushal agrees; what to do with the filters? -- Kushal started, M6; FilterReferenceAdapter, override public Object[] getChildren(IProgressMonitor monitor, IContextObject contextObject); Add API for SubSystemConfigurationAdapter.applyViewFilter(IContextObject parent, Object[] children);
    • (M6) 177523 (Martin) Unify getInstance()
    • (M6) 180688 180690 (Martin) SystemSignonInformation.getSystemType(), ISubSystem.getSystemType() --> agreed
    • (try M6) 175680 177128 (Martin) Clean up ISystemRegistry --> not for M6


  • Old stuff
    • (?) files.ui: Activator should be internal (util methods to go to RemoteFileUtility)
    • (?) subsystems.shells.core: What about OutputRefreshJob, its currently needed
    • (?) 179910 (Kushal) removing unnecessary upload/download - do we really need still 2 upload methods?
    • (?) 174945 General code cleanup - get rid of unused icons, comments, properties
    • (?) Copyright Updates by Martin


[edit] Vacation, Away

  • Kushal out of office for business tomorrow, Wednesday

[edit] Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • Everyone first test (2 hrs max.), then fix major issues, then look at API. GOAL is to have a good test candidate tomorrow.

[edit] Next Meeting