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** Due to bugzilla queries it's a very live document anyways | ** Due to bugzilla queries it's a very live document anyways | ||
** How to separate "plan" kind of bugs from "normal work uninteresting" bugs | ** How to separate "plan" kind of bugs from "normal work uninteresting" bugs | ||
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+ | * Ganymede Promotions | ||
+ | ** Will do a 15-minute Screencast of TM for EMO Marketing - Ideas for things to show? | ||
+ | ** Listing New&Noteworthy for ZX | ||
+ | ** [[BugDay/May 2008]] on May 30, who will be on IRC? | ||
* Late API Changes / Additions | * Late API Changes / Additions | ||
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** Work on remaining ones by priority | ** Work on remaining ones by priority | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M5&target_milestone=3.0+M6&target_milestone=3.0+M7&target_milestone=3.0+RC1&target_milestone=3.0+RC2&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit Open RC2 Assigned] bugs, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+RC2&target_milestone=3.0+RC3&target_milestone=3.0+RC4&target_milestone=3.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit open 3.0 Assigned] bugs | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M5&target_milestone=3.0+M6&target_milestone=3.0+M7&target_milestone=3.0+RC1&target_milestone=3.0+RC2&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit Open RC2 Assigned] bugs, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+RC2&target_milestone=3.0+RC3&target_milestone=3.0+RC4&target_milestone=3.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit open 3.0 Assigned] bugs | ||
+ | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor Hi-Priority] | ||
+ | ** Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 8 major (DaveD, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 23 other P2's -- was 10 major / 20 P2's last week | ||
+ | ** Community contributions: Only few [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 unapplied patches] right now, last chance to apply now before 3.0 (see also the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] for a query) | ||
* Martin's new Build System for Dave | * Martin's new Build System for Dave | ||
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** For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g. | ** For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g. | ||
*** Useractions | *** Useractions | ||
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* '''Cleanup Work''' | * '''Cleanup Work''' | ||
− | ** Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do | + | ** Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's? |
*** Unittests, unittests, unittests! | *** Unittests, unittests, unittests! | ||
− | *** New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation) | + | *** '''New releng scripts''' on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation) |
− | *** Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool) | + | *** '''Copyright Year Updates''' (Run the releng Copyrights Tool) |
+ | *** Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?) | ||
*** API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - {{Bug|227368}}, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 4] and [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 6] - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] | *** API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - {{Bug|227368}}, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 4] and [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 6] - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] | ||
*** Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here | *** Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here | ||
− | *** Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing | + | *** Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated |
*** Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work) | *** Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work) | ||
*** Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible | *** Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible | ||
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=== What will happen after Ganymede? === | === What will happen after Ganymede? === | ||
− | * Going for 3.1 next year? Create a bugzilla target milestone | + | * Going for 3.1 next year? |
− | * [[TM Future Planning]] Wiki for collecting ideas | + | ** Not breaking API in 3.1 means that we may introduce new concepts as duplicated new API at places, and deprecate the old one so I cannot see anything against 3.1 |
+ | ** Create a bugzilla 3.1 target milestone to start the planning process / reassign bugs on review | ||
+ | * [[TM Future Planning]] Wiki for collecting ideas. Some first thoughts on Priorities? | ||
** Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware | ** Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware | ||
** Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties | ** Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties |
Revision as of 08:07, 28 May 2008
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Wednesday May 28, 2008 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg |
Dial-in: | SkypeOut: +99008275601400 (free!) - powered by Highspeedconferencing.com |
Backup1: Martin to call everybody by Skype
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Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
- ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Agenda
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 21-May-2008
- Skype Call Quality
New Stuff
- Release Review next Wed June 4 at 8am PST (our usual committer meeting time)
- Want to move next committer meeting to Thursday Jun 5 at 8am PST (same time), ok? Or do it after/at our Monthly Meeting Jun4 at 9am PST?
- Our slides: Minideck (PPT | PDF, All slides (PPT | PDF)
- Full Ganymede Slides - We are #22ff on the Overview deck, alphabetically pretty soon
- Project Plan: Development Resources/Project Plan Status
- Ours is XML now, on http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/tm_plan_3_0.xml -- also in your www-tm-development project
- Bjorn's tooling renders it to PHP - bottom has a link for raw XML
- Everybody can edit the plan at any time to fix typos etc
- Due to bugzilla queries it's a very live document anyways
- How to separate "plan" kind of bugs from "normal work uninteresting" bugs
- Ganymede Promotions
- Will do a 15-minute Screencast of TM for EMO Marketing - Ideas for things to show?
- Listing New&Noteworthy for ZX
- BugDay/May 2008 on May 30, who will be on IRC?
- Late API Changes / Additions
- Must decide how we want to handle Apidoc bugs
- Take the time now to review and improve unclear API descriptions
- All open API bugs
- bug 234215 bug 234030: AbstractSystemViewElementAdapter#doDelete*(): Treat Exception same as SystemMessageException? Treat "cancelled" same as Exception?
- bug 165171 Should the File Permissions Property Page be extendable? Close bug, file a new one?
- bug 190231 Subsystem UI->non-UI: Go for it?
- bug 230298 (api)(breaking) ISystemPropertyConstants should not extend IBasicPropertyConstants
- bug 185348, bug 204796 Terminal non-API
Steps Towards Ganymede
- DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
- We have RC2, so from now on EVERY checkin must get a +1 by a reviewer BEFORE (except emergencies, documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
- Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale
- TM 3.0 RC2 Testing Status
- Committers step up with good example to draw community members to it!
- Somebody must test our integration with the JEE EPP Package
- Bug Triage
- AI Everyone must review your assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 where possible
- All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
- Work on remaining ones by priority
- Open RC2 Assigned bugs, open 3.0 Assigned bugs
- Severity Major, Hi-Priority
- Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 8 major (DaveD, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 23 other P2's -- was 10 major / 20 P2's last week
- Community contributions: Only few unapplied patches right now, last chance to apply now before 3.0 (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)
- Martin's new Build System for Dave
- In the works
- New and Noteworthy
- I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
- See CDT/User/NewIn50 for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
- For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
- Useractions
- Cleanup Work
- Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's?
- Unittests, unittests, unittests!
- New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
- Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
- Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?)
- API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
- Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
- Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated
- Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
- Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
- Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
- Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
- Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
- TM Website: revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.
- Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's?
What will happen after Ganymede?
- Going for 3.1 next year?
- Not breaking API in 3.1 means that we may introduce new concepts as duplicated new API at places, and deprecate the old one so I cannot see anything against 3.1
- Create a bugzilla 3.1 target milestone to start the planning process / reassign bugs on review
- TM Future Planning Wiki for collecting ideas. Some first thoughts on Priorities?
- Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware
- Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties
- More dynamic subsystem enablement and configuration (e.g. detect UNIX vs Windows automatically at runtime)
- Hi-Performance, caching EFS provider
- Bring TCF to Maturity
- Quality: Add unittest coverage, reduce bloat, improve performance, streamline APIs
- Java1.4 on the Server, Java5 on the Client
Questions
- DaveD context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: bug 208062
Committer Status and Report
- Javier - New Employer in Barcelona
- DaveD -
- bug 189274 Import/export connections
- DaveM: -
- JUnit should autotest dstore against old servers as well - an IBM thing
- Kevin: -
- Xuan: -
- Martin: - bug 215301 New project plan format -- Need to put Project Plan on the Web; AI Martin Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
- Commons.Net 1.5.0 not yet released - AI Martin create placeholder CQ
- Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels
- bug 221190 EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly
- GSoC student Takuya Miyamoto for bug 185925
- Uwe: -
- Rupen: -
- Michael: -
- Eugene: -
- Rado: -
- Felix: -
- Questions
Old Stuff
- Unit Tests - next priority after API
- Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)
- bug 221211 MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. AI DaveD/DaveM update Javadocs when it's clear what we want
- bug 220379 Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter - is this fixed now that IService is IAdaptable as per bug 226262? AI DaveM ask reporters
- bug 220547 SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local - AI DaveM think about
- Bugzilla:
- Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
- Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
- Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 31 weeks / 5 milestones, so each committer is due 62 fixes / 10 unittests
- Current situation is on this bugzilla report
- Unittests: when adding a test, please add the tag //-test-author:YourName in front of it
- DaveM - 5
- DaveD - 22
- KevinD - 11
- MartinO - 3
- TobiasS - 3
- UweS - 7
- XuanC - 51
- Total - 101
- Javier - 0
Vacation, away
- Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
- DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
- DaveD in July
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone: Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table;
- Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 what we can
- Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
- DaveD:
- DaveM: Fix bug 231209 IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection()
- Kevin: -
- Rupen: -
- Xuan: -
- Martin: New Project Plan; Critical EFS bugs; UI/Non-UI Splitting; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD;
- Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
- Michael: Terminal improvements
- Uwe: -
- Rado: Fix bug 230919 IFileService.delete()
- Felix: -
- Eugene: -