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** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
 
** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
 
* Latest News
 
* Latest News
** Martin -- Prepared, organized and joined the [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] effort; Release Review;
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** Martin -- Prepared & released M5 - lots of new features (Commons_Net,Remotecdt,EFS,Discovery); Prepared, organized and joined the [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] effort; Release Review (passed!);
** DaveD --  
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** DaveD -- Bug reporting & fixing
** DaveM --  
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** DaveM -- Bug reporting & fixing
** Kushal --  
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** Kushal -- Bug reporting & fixing
** Javier --  
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** Javier -- Bug reporting & fixing
** Ted -- Terminalview
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** Ted -- Terminalview; need a few more days, Baby is here
 
** Other News --
 
** Other News --
 
* Looking back on [http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-200609221723/index.php 1.0 M5]
 
* Looking back on [http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-200609221723/index.php 1.0 M5]
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** '''Please Review [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&target_milestone=1.0+M5&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit Bugs assigned to M5 milestone]''' and set FIXED as appropriate (or change Target Milestone=1.0 RC1)
 
** '''Please Review [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&target_milestone=1.0+M5&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit Bugs assigned to M5 milestone]''' and set FIXED as appropriate (or change Target Milestone=1.0 RC1)
 
** Comments?
 
** Comments?
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*** Javier: Will FTP be tested? - Martin: Yes once the Service uses Commons_Net
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*** Javier will implement the glue from RSE File Service -> Commons_Net
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*** Martin needs to fix the unattended builds
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* Top Priorities this week:
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** '''#1 - Fulfill the testing assignments''' (4h each; but not more) - [[RSE 1.0 Testing]]
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** '''#2 - Bookkeeping''': Bugzilla M5 bugs status, Bugzilla NEW->ASSIGNED, Code Ownership, Copyright Checks
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** '''#3 - Hi-priority bugfixing'''
 
* Upcoming Work
 
* Upcoming Work
** '''Bug Work''' is top priority this week, will consolidate again next week.
 
 
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW]
 
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW]
 
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch],
 
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch],
 
*** DaveD: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 150128] harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand
 
*** DaveD: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 150128] harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand
 
*** DaveM: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153652 153652] copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&paste fails from remote FS to windows explorer.
 
*** DaveM: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153652 153652] copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&paste fails from remote FS to windows explorer.
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**** Dave & Kushal could not reproduce problems with Drag&Drop files when folders worked
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**** --> Martin to re-test once Commons_Net builds ok
 
** Communications
 
** Communications
 
*** We need a '''RSE 2.0 Project Plan!''' - Work on the [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page
 
*** We need a '''RSE 2.0 Project Plan!''' - Work on the [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page
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**** Martin to create an empty Milestone Plan in a hidden area of the webserver; DaveD to fill in features for dates
 
*** Should we reduce noise on the dsdp-tm-dev list?
 
*** Should we reduce noise on the dsdp-tm-dev list?
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**** '''Decision: No - it's a developer list''', so we're going to keep everything public.
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**** Perform feature specific discussions in bugreports
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**** Encourage users to use the newsgroup for questions
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***** Anybody know a good newsreader? Problem is that most dont poll automatically. - Ted: Opera? Any Eclpse Plugin for newsreading?
 
** Source Code Style & Cleanness
 
** Source Code Style & Cleanness
*** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights
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*** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights - '''PLEASE FIX NOW'''
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**** Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the [http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2-200606291905/index.php Eclipse 3.2 Download Page] - See the description there: "6. Fix Copyrights"
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**** Martin to post instructions here and in committer HOWTO
 
*** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto]
 
*** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto]
*** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]]
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*** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] - DaveD to edit
 
*** '''Code Style and Format'''
 
*** '''Code Style and Format'''
 
**** Not been a focus so far
 
**** Not been a focus so far
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**** Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects?
 
**** Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects?
 
**** Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE
 
**** Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE
** '''Change Requests'''
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***** DaveD likes the Sun (Eclipse Standard) convention
*** SystemRegistry.getTheSystemRegistry() vs. RSEUIPlugin.getSystemRegistry()
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***** If one has trouble understanding some code, reformat it on the fly
*** Default colors for command view - white background, black or dark blue foreground
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***** Historically, some RSE code was generated out of modelling tools; no objection to reformatting
*** Remove rseConfigDefaults extension point - Kushal
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***** Additional RSE7 stuff merging is not a problem; back-porting bugfixes may be a problem though.
*** Remove passwordPersistence extension point - Kushal
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***** '''Decision: wait with auto-formatting until there are no bugfixes to back-port any more'''
*** Deprecated getRemoteProperty() --> Document property namespaces, reserve "org.eclipse.rse" namespace
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** '''Features''': Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152826 bug 152826])
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** '''Refactorings''': DaveM did most important stuff; consider "finished" for now, continue with hi-pri bugs
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*** SystemRegistry.getTheSystemRegistry() vs. RSEUIPlugin.getSystemRegistry() -- need to keep this for now
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*** Kushal IConnectorService --> if we can afford after addressing hi-pri bugs
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*** Kushal rseConfigDefaults
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*** Kushal passwordPersistence
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** API Things
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*** '''Service Error Reporting''' - [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=149472 bug 149472] - DaveD - API ok so far, final resolution? --> Create new different bug id for that one.
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*** '''Parallel Services''' - [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142478 bug 142478] all queries in background - DaveM
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*** '''SystemRegistry.createHost''' for Javier
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**** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 bug 150168] dont commit immediately - DaveD
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***** Javier: not important at the moment; DaveD: probably fixed already
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**** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150265 bug 150265] allow specifying subsystem types - DaveM
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***** Example: 1 Host providing shell and FTP (different categories)
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***** Problem: createHost() only creates a host with 1 service -- See video for service discovery, DaveM to take a look at it
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***** Need createHost() with a list of services
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***** Can wait until hi-pri bugs are fixed.
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*** Making stuff '''internal''' - ssh, ftp: Martin; Core: List of candidates from DaveD?
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** Cleanup: API Doc (duplicates in interface and implementation!), JUnit tests, Context help, Test Plans, RSE-7-migration-docs, Copyrights, licenses
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* Other items
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** Tutorial: Update at the end of the release process, change instructions (re-use example code: We dont want to teach PDE)
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** Manual test plans - in work by '''Martin'''
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** EFS Experimental feature to be created by Martin
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* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
 
** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
 
** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well
 
** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well
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** Canadian Thanksgiving - Oct.9
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
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** Javier - Updatesite: Discovery doesnt work from the update site
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*** Martin: please try downloads, review build.properties
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*** DaveD: What Environment is needed? - Javier: e.g. iTunes, DaveD will test
  
 
== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''DaveD''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
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* '''DaveD''' - Testing, Bookkeeping; Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
* '''DaveM''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; hygiene changes
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* '''DaveM''' - Testing, Bookkeeping; meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs
* '''Kushal''' - Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence
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* '''Kushal''' - Testing, Bookkeeping; Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin;
* '''Martin''' - Manual test plan, Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
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* '''Martin''' - Testing; Fix Commons_Net unattended build; create empty project plan; re-test drag&drop; Hi-pri bugs; API Review, Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
* '''Javier''' - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
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* '''Javier''' - Testing; Hook up FTP Service with Commons/Net; Fix SD build.properties; Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
* '''Ted''' - Sanity-check I-build; Terminalview; Document build process
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* '''Ted''' - Care for the baby
 
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== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 8am SFO/10.00am Rochester/11.00pm Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 8am SFO/10.00am Rochester/11.00pm Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg
 
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 9am PST
 
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 9am PST

Latest revision as of 13:23, 27 September 2006

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Sep 27, 2006 at 9.00am San Francisco / 11.00am Rochester / 12.00am Toronto / 5.00pm London / 6.00pm Salzburg
Dial-in: Martin to start a Skype conference - you'll be called:
Skype martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet

Fixed-line fallback dial-in:

  • International +1 314-655-1411
  • North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free)
  • Passcode: 764918

Contents

[edit] Attendees

  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams

[edit] Agenda

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
  • Latest News
    • Martin -- Prepared & released M5 - lots of new features (Commons_Net,Remotecdt,EFS,Discovery); Prepared, organized and joined the RSE 1.0 Testing effort; Release Review (passed!);
    • DaveD -- Bug reporting & fixing
    • DaveM -- Bug reporting & fixing
    • Kushal -- Bug reporting & fixing
    • Javier -- Bug reporting & fixing
    • Ted -- Terminalview; need a few more days, Baby is here
    • Other News --
  • Looking back on 1.0 M5
    • Downloads to-date: 31 (SDK), 10 (win-server), 8 (linux-server), 5 (examples); 5 efs, 4 disscovery; plus 11 from the update site (.pack.gz, +9 .jar)
    • Please Review Bugs assigned to M5 milestone and set FIXED as appropriate (or change Target Milestone=1.0 RC1)
    • Comments?
      • Javier: Will FTP be tested? - Martin: Yes once the Service uses Commons_Net
      • Javier will implement the glue from RSE File Service -> Commons_Net
      • Martin needs to fix the unattended builds
  • Top Priorities this week:
    • #1 - Fulfill the testing assignments (4h each; but not more) - RSE 1.0 Testing
    • #2 - Bookkeeping: Bugzilla M5 bugs status, Bugzilla NEW->ASSIGNED, Code Ownership, Copyright Checks
    • #3 - Hi-priority bugfixing
  • Upcoming Work
    • New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
      • Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
      • DaveD: 150128 harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand
      • DaveM: 153652 copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&paste fails from remote FS to windows explorer.
        • Dave & Kushal could not reproduce problems with Drag&Drop files when folders worked
        • --> Martin to re-test once Commons_Net builds ok
    • Communications
      • We need a RSE 2.0 Project Plan! - Work on the RSE 2.0 Planning page
        • Martin to create an empty Milestone Plan in a hidden area of the webserver; DaveD to fill in features for dates
      • Should we reduce noise on the dsdp-tm-dev list?
        • Decision: No - it's a developer list, so we're going to keep everything public.
        • Perform feature specific discussions in bugreports
        • Encourage users to use the newsgroup for questions
          • Anybody know a good newsreader? Problem is that most dont poll automatically. - Ted: Opera? Any Eclpse Plugin for newsreading?
    • Source Code Style & Cleanness
      • Missing / Incomplete Copyrights - PLEASE FIX NOW
        • Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the Eclipse 3.2 Download Page - See the description there: "6. Fix Copyrights"
        • Martin to post instructions here and in committer HOWTO
      • Compiler Warnings: See Committer Howto
      • Code Ownership - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership - DaveD to edit
      • Code Style and Format
        • Not been a focus so far
        • RSE itself is inconsistent - e.g. if... without {} block is problematic
        • Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects?
        • Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE
          • DaveD likes the Sun (Eclipse Standard) convention
          • If one has trouble understanding some code, reformat it on the fly
          • Historically, some RSE code was generated out of modelling tools; no objection to reformatting
          • Additional RSE7 stuff merging is not a problem; back-porting bugfixes may be a problem though.
          • Decision: wait with auto-formatting until there are no bugfixes to back-port any more
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
    • DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well
    • Canadian Thanksgiving - Oct.9
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
    • Javier - Updatesite: Discovery doesnt work from the update site
      • Martin: please try downloads, review build.properties
      • DaveD: What Environment is needed? - Javier: e.g. iTunes, DaveD will test

[edit] Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Testing, Bookkeeping; Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
  • DaveM - Testing, Bookkeeping; meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs
  • Kushal - Testing, Bookkeeping; Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin;
  • Martin - Testing; Fix Commons_Net unattended build; create empty project plan; re-test drag&drop; Hi-pri bugs; API Review, Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
  • Javier - Testing; Hook up FTP Service with Commons/Net; Fix SD build.properties; Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
  • Ted - Care for the baby

[edit] Next Meeting