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** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ||
* Latest News | * Latest News | ||
| − | ** Martin -- Prepared, organized and joined the [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] effort; Release Review; | + | ** Martin -- Prepared & released M5 - lots of new features (Commons_Net,Remotecdt,EFS,Discovery); Prepared, organized and joined the [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] effort; Release Review (passed!); |
| − | ** DaveD -- | + | ** DaveD -- Bug reporting & fixing |
| − | ** DaveM -- | + | ** DaveM -- Bug reporting & fixing |
| − | ** Kushal -- | + | ** Kushal -- Bug reporting & fixing |
| − | ** Javier -- | + | ** Javier -- Bug reporting & fixing |
| − | ** Ted -- Terminalview | + | ** Ted -- Terminalview; need a few more days, Baby is here |
** Other News -- | ** Other News -- | ||
* Looking back on [http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-200609221723/index.php 1.0 M5] | * Looking back on [http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-1.0M5-200609221723/index.php 1.0 M5] | ||
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** '''Please Review [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&target_milestone=1.0+M5&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit Bugs assigned to M5 milestone]''' and set FIXED as appropriate (or change Target Milestone=1.0 RC1) | ** '''Please Review [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&target_milestone=1.0+M5&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit Bugs assigned to M5 milestone]''' and set FIXED as appropriate (or change Target Milestone=1.0 RC1) | ||
** Comments? | ** Comments? | ||
| + | *** Javier: Will FTP be tested? - Martin: Yes once the Service uses Commons_Net | ||
| + | *** Javier will implement the glue from RSE File Service -> Commons_Net | ||
| + | *** Martin needs to fix the unattended builds | ||
| + | * Top Priorities this week: | ||
| + | ** '''#1 - Fulfill the testing assignments''' (4h each; but not more) - [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] | ||
| + | ** '''#2 - Bookkeeping''': Bugzilla M5 bugs status, Bugzilla NEW->ASSIGNED, Code Ownership, Copyright Checks | ||
| + | ** '''#3 - Hi-priority bugfixing''' | ||
* Upcoming Work | * Upcoming Work | ||
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** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ||
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], | *** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], | ||
*** DaveD: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 150128] harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand | *** DaveD: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 150128] harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand | ||
*** DaveM: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153652 153652] copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&paste fails from remote FS to windows explorer. | *** DaveM: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153652 153652] copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&paste fails from remote FS to windows explorer. | ||
| + | **** Dave & Kushal could not reproduce problems with Drag&Drop files when folders worked | ||
| + | **** --> Martin to re-test once Commons_Net builds ok | ||
** Communications | ** Communications | ||
*** We need a '''RSE 2.0 Project Plan!''' - Work on the [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page | *** We need a '''RSE 2.0 Project Plan!''' - Work on the [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page | ||
| + | **** Martin to create an empty Milestone Plan in a hidden area of the webserver; DaveD to fill in features for dates | ||
*** Should we reduce noise on the dsdp-tm-dev list? | *** Should we reduce noise on the dsdp-tm-dev list? | ||
| + | **** '''Decision: No - it's a developer list''', so we're going to keep everything public. | ||
| + | **** Perform feature specific discussions in bugreports | ||
| + | **** Encourage users to use the newsgroup for questions | ||
| + | ***** Anybody know a good newsreader? Problem is that most dont poll automatically. - Ted: Opera? Any Eclpse Plugin for newsreading? | ||
** Source Code Style & Cleanness | ** Source Code Style & Cleanness | ||
| − | *** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights | + | *** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights - '''PLEASE FIX NOW''' |
| + | **** Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the [http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2-200606291905/index.php Eclipse 3.2 Download Page] - See the description there: "6. Fix Copyrights" | ||
| + | **** Martin to post instructions here and in committer HOWTO | ||
*** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto] | *** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto] | ||
| − | *** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] | + | *** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] - DaveD to edit |
*** '''Code Style and Format''' | *** '''Code Style and Format''' | ||
**** Not been a focus so far | **** Not been a focus so far | ||
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**** Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects? | **** Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects? | ||
**** Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE | **** Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE | ||
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* Vacations, Holidays etc. | * Vacations, Holidays etc. | ||
** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now) | ** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now) | ||
** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well | ** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well | ||
| + | ** Canadian Thanksgiving - Oct.9 | ||
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | * Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | ||
| + | ** Javier - Updatesite: Discovery doesnt work from the update site | ||
| + | *** Martin: please try downloads, review build.properties | ||
| + | *** DaveD: What Environment is needed? - Javier: e.g. iTunes, DaveD will test | ||
== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
| − | * '''DaveD''' - | + | * '''DaveD''' - Testing, Bookkeeping; Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal. |
| − | * '''DaveM''' - | + | * '''DaveM''' - Testing, Bookkeeping; meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs |
| − | * '''Kushal''' - Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. | + | * '''Kushal''' - Testing, Bookkeeping; Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; |
| − | * '''Martin''' - | + | * '''Martin''' - Testing; Fix Commons_Net unattended build; create empty project plan; re-test drag&drop; Hi-pri bugs; API Review, Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal |
| − | * '''Javier''' - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed | + | * '''Javier''' - Testing; Hook up FTP Service with Commons/Net; Fix SD build.properties; Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works |
| − | * '''Ted''' - | + | * '''Ted''' - Care for the baby |
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== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 8am SFO/10.00am Rochester/11.00pm Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 8am SFO/10.00am Rochester/11.00pm Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg | ||
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 9am PST | * Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] at 9am PST | ||
Latest revision as of 13:23, 27 September 2006
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Wednesday Sep 27, 2006 at 9.00am San Francisco / 11.00am Rochester / 12.00am Toronto / 5.00pm London / 6.00pm Salzburg |
| Dial-in: | Martin to start a Skype conference - you'll be called: Skype martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet |
Fixed-line fallback dial-in:
- International +1 314-655-1411
- North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free)
- Passcode: 764918
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams
Agenda
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
- Latest News
- Martin -- Prepared & released M5 - lots of new features (Commons_Net,Remotecdt,EFS,Discovery); Prepared, organized and joined the RSE 1.0 Testing effort; Release Review (passed!);
- DaveD -- Bug reporting & fixing
- DaveM -- Bug reporting & fixing
- Kushal -- Bug reporting & fixing
- Javier -- Bug reporting & fixing
- Ted -- Terminalview; need a few more days, Baby is here
- Other News --
- Looking back on 1.0 M5
- Downloads to-date: 31 (SDK), 10 (win-server), 8 (linux-server), 5 (examples); 5 efs, 4 disscovery; plus 11 from the update site (.pack.gz, +9 .jar)
- Please Review Bugs assigned to M5 milestone and set FIXED as appropriate (or change Target Milestone=1.0 RC1)
- Comments?
- Javier: Will FTP be tested? - Martin: Yes once the Service uses Commons_Net
- Javier will implement the glue from RSE File Service -> Commons_Net
- Martin needs to fix the unattended builds
- Top Priorities this week:
- #1 - Fulfill the testing assignments (4h each; but not more) - RSE 1.0 Testing
- #2 - Bookkeeping: Bugzilla M5 bugs status, Bugzilla NEW->ASSIGNED, Code Ownership, Copyright Checks
- #3 - Hi-priority bugfixing
- Upcoming Work
- New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
- Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
- DaveD: 150128 harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand
- DaveM: 153652 copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&paste fails from remote FS to windows explorer.
- Dave & Kushal could not reproduce problems with Drag&Drop files when folders worked
- --> Martin to re-test once Commons_Net builds ok
- Communications
- We need a RSE 2.0 Project Plan! - Work on the RSE 2.0 Planning page
- Martin to create an empty Milestone Plan in a hidden area of the webserver; DaveD to fill in features for dates
- Should we reduce noise on the dsdp-tm-dev list?
- Decision: No - it's a developer list, so we're going to keep everything public.
- Perform feature specific discussions in bugreports
- Encourage users to use the newsgroup for questions
- Anybody know a good newsreader? Problem is that most dont poll automatically. - Ted: Opera? Any Eclpse Plugin for newsreading?
- We need a RSE 2.0 Project Plan! - Work on the RSE 2.0 Planning page
- Source Code Style & Cleanness
- Missing / Incomplete Copyrights - PLEASE FIX NOW
- Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the Eclipse 3.2 Download Page - See the description there: "6. Fix Copyrights"
- Martin to post instructions here and in committer HOWTO
- Compiler Warnings: See Committer Howto
- Code Ownership - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership - DaveD to edit
- Code Style and Format
- Not been a focus so far
- RSE itself is inconsistent - e.g. if... without {} block is problematic
- Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects?
- Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE
- DaveD likes the Sun (Eclipse Standard) convention
- If one has trouble understanding some code, reformat it on the fly
- Historically, some RSE code was generated out of modelling tools; no objection to reformatting
- Additional RSE7 stuff merging is not a problem; back-porting bugfixes may be a problem though.
- Decision: wait with auto-formatting until there are no bugfixes to back-port any more
- Missing / Incomplete Copyrights - PLEASE FIX NOW
- New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
- DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well
- Canadian Thanksgiving - Oct.9
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
- Javier - Updatesite: Discovery doesnt work from the update site
- Martin: please try downloads, review build.properties
- DaveD: What Environment is needed? - Javier: e.g. iTunes, DaveD will test
- Javier - Updatesite: Discovery doesnt work from the update site
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Testing, Bookkeeping; Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
- DaveM - Testing, Bookkeeping; meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs
- Kushal - Testing, Bookkeeping; Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Hi-pri bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin;
- Martin - Testing; Fix Commons_Net unattended build; create empty project plan; re-test drag&drop; Hi-pri bugs; API Review, Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
- Javier - Testing; Hook up FTP Service with Commons/Net; Fix SD build.properties; Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
- Ted - Care for the baby
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006 at 8am SFO/10.00am Rochester/11.00pm Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg
- Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006 at 9am PST