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* M6 is Apr 07 -- Testing Apr 1 or 2 -- Should do better than last time | * M6 is Apr 07 -- Testing Apr 1 or 2 -- Should do better than last time | ||
* Currently [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit 39 bugs assigned M6] - especially DaveD - what can we really get done | * Currently [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit 39 bugs assigned M6] - especially DaveD - what can we really get done | ||
| − | * NLS Fixes - few still missing, see [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg01723.html mailing list] - '''must have for M6''' | + | * NLS Fixes - few still missing, see [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg01723.html mailing list] - '''must have for M6''' - '''AI Javier, DaveM''' |
* '''Unit Tests''' - next priority after API | * '''Unit Tests''' - next priority after API | ||
* Will migrate to new Releng after M6 (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc... too risky for now, focus on API) | * Will migrate to new Releng after M6 (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc... too risky for now, focus on API) | ||
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=== '''Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply patches''' === | === '''Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply patches''' === | ||
| − | * {{Bug|210682}} Rupen's multi-file copy/move/overwrite dialog | + | * {{Bug|210682}} Rupen's multi-file copy/move/overwrite dialog '''AI Rupen''' merge again, '''AI DaveM''' apply patch soon |
* {{Bug|214887}} WinCE Subsystem - pending EMO Review | * {{Bug|214887}} WinCE Subsystem - pending EMO Review | ||
* {{Bug|170910}} RSE Terminal Integration - Montavista Contribution pending this friday for API change to allow Streams API for IHostShell | * {{Bug|170910}} RSE Terminal Integration - Montavista Contribution pending this friday for API change to allow Streams API for IHostShell | ||
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=== '''Bug Discussions''' === | === '''Bug Discussions''' === | ||
| − | * {{bug|190231}} subsystem UI -> Core: '''AI | + | * {{bug|190231}} subsystem UI -> Core: '''AI Martin''' to ask Dave if questions - idea is an IAdaptable to adapt the Wizard Pages into something consumable in non-UI for configuring subsystems, e.g. Property Sets |
* {{Bug|220892}} reving down dstore protocol version - '''AI DaveM''' implement version handshake as discussed - this is API! | * {{Bug|220892}} reving down dstore protocol version - '''AI DaveM''' implement version handshake as discussed - this is API! | ||
| + | ** Waiting for Code Contribution from another team | ||
| + | *** Martin: Will not accept any new feature into M6 after this Friday. After M6, API changes are subject to discussion, nobody has a right to change API so in the worst case they may have missed the train and need to fork off their private branch of RSE / DStore. | ||
** (done: Handler Hook for registering handshake handler / error handler; may need new API for protocol handshake) | ** (done: Handler Hook for registering handshake handler / error handler; may need new API for protocol handshake) | ||
* {{Bug|221211}} MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. '''AI DaveD/DaveM''' update Javadocs when it's clear what we want | * {{Bug|221211}} MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. '''AI DaveD/DaveM''' update Javadocs when it's clear what we want | ||
| − | * {{Bug|220379}} Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter | + | * {{Bug|220379}} Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter - '''AI DaveM''' ask reporters |
| − | * {{Bug|220547}} SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local | + | * {{Bug|220547}} SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local - '''AI DaveM''' think about |
| − | + | ||
* {{bug|218947}} IRemotePath idea - '''AI DaveM''' create new defect for the API change | * {{bug|218947}} IRemotePath idea - '''AI DaveM''' create new defect for the API change | ||
** DaveM: Naming convention -- IHostPath instead of IRemotePath since located in the Service? | ** DaveM: Naming convention -- IHostPath instead of IRemotePath since located in the Service? | ||
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=== Committer Status and Report === | === Committer Status and Report === | ||
| − | * '''Javier''' | + | * '''Javier''' leaving Symbian, going to work in Barcelona - will remain involved with DSDP; somebody else from Symbian to take over |
| + | ** Fix NLS issues '''AI Javier''' | ||
| + | ** {{Bug|212382}} ftpListingParser initCommands '''AI Javier''' | ||
** Martin updating Commons Net to 1.5.0 | ** Martin updating Commons Net to 1.5.0 | ||
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* '''DaveD''' | * '''DaveD''' | ||
| − | ** {{bug|217894}} Subsystem Configuration Families - | + | ** {{bug|217894}} Subsystem Configuration Families - not for M6 - '''AI All''' comment on the bug |
| − | ** {{bug|189274}} Import/export connections | + | ** {{bug|189274}} Import/export connections internal but TBD for M6 |
* '''DaveM:''' - | * '''DaveM:''' - | ||
| − | ** EFS and encodings - No response from platform - | + | ** {{bug|222404}} Associate propery sets with RSE objects and keep those associated in the event of a rename or move - an interesting feature in exchange for events - DaveD: Looks interesting but need to look at closely; Martin - should do Events suggestion for now; maybe could use an adapter factory for data payload, but need more investigation |
| + | ** EFS and encodings - No response from platform - off our radar for now | ||
* '''Kevin:''' - {{Bug|221190}} EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly | * '''Kevin:''' - {{Bug|221190}} EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly | ||
| − | * '''Xuan:''' - Will | + | * '''Xuan:''' - Will only have time for PropertyFileAdapter stuff: Property adapters for User actions -- will need some NLS changes |
| − | * '''Martin:''' - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night | + | ** Compile Commands Problem: Key in property sets is case insensitive in hashmap |
| + | ** IPZilla: Getting only notifications for WinCE - Martin: Commons Net 1.5 not yet filed, JSch-0.1.37 is approved and in Platform M6 | ||
| + | * '''Martin:''' - {{bug|215301}} New project plan format -- Need to put Project Plan on the Web; '''AI Martin''' written ramp-down plan; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night | ||
** Searchcvs, Relnotes done; Little more work needed on web-build and promote.sh | ** Searchcvs, Relnotes done; Little more work needed on web-build and promote.sh | ||
** JSch-0.1.37, Commons.Net 1.5.0 | ** JSch-0.1.37, Commons.Net 1.5.0 | ||
** Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels | ** Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels | ||
* '''Uwe:''' - | * '''Uwe:''' - | ||
| − | * '''Rupen:''' - | + | * '''Rupen:''' - Merging multi-copy & rename |
* '''Michael:''' - | * '''Michael:''' - | ||
* '''Questions''' | * '''Questions''' | ||
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== Vacation, Away == | == Vacation, Away == | ||
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| + | * Martin in SFO Apr 14-18 for ESC and PluginFest | ||
| + | * DaveD probably taking some time off | ||
== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
Revision as of 13:29, 26 March 2008
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Wednesday Mar 26, 2008 at 1600 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1100 Rochester / 1200 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg |
| Dial-in: | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Eugene Tarassov
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Agenda
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 5-Mar-2008
- Skype Call Quality
- Better redial if quality problems
EclipseCon 2008 Report
- Best EclipseCon Ever :-)
- TM Tutorial - focus on 50% TCF and 50% rse; about 30 people, very positive feedback
- TM Short Talk - may re-use slides
- Blog Post about TCF
- CDT Remote / RDT call for participation, being discussed on cdt-dev list for now
- DSDP BOF - towards two "packages" of DSDP projects for mobile Java / device development, likely with P2 installer but on SourceForge due to needing GPL for cross-compilers / emulators
- Big Press hype about Microsoft envolvement in Eclipse but rather disappointing keynote by Sam Ramji - though the EMO likes to see things positive. Still, the facts are: no commitment yet by MS but wants to help out in SWT-WPF port and Higgins-Cardspace
- E4: IBM/RAP want to webalize SWT, which may be a good thing in terms of architecture but is not the whole story: need to collect requirements from all the community in a suitable forum, and a face-to-face kickoff meeting
- In general, it looks like the community is dozing a little wrt Platform - no exciting new talks, no exciting new features but much more breadth of community. Also, OSGi is gaining even more momentum, new Eclipse RT (Runtime) toplevel project started
- Played with DTP / SQL Query Builder, BIRT Charting
- Eclipse Command Language (ECL) looked very interesting
- Automated UI testing: RCP Robot and FIT was extremely hot - FIT tables in Excel (idea by Ward Cunningham) together with Fixtures maintained by the developer and SWT Bot for the actual test execution
- RTSC and NAB were excellent talks from DSDP
- Had some discussions with Scott Lewis about ECF especially comparing against TCF and integrating into RSE: we should really do an RSE ECF file provider, they got the browsing APIs now
- Most funny EclipseCon stuff: Vista SP1 Features, How to get IP approved quicly, the most awsome guy at Eclipse and its Fake, stuff from the Fake Steve Jobs blog
M6 Focus
- M6 is Apr 07 -- Testing Apr 1 or 2 -- Should do better than last time
- Currently 39 bugs assigned M6 - especially DaveD - what can we really get done
- NLS Fixes - few still missing, see mailing list - must have for M6 - AI Javier, DaveM
- Unit Tests - next priority after API
- Will migrate to new Releng after M6 (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc... too risky for now, focus on API)
- Adopting Api Tooling: Martin tried it out for some plugins - renaming (CANCELLED->CANCELED) is not very well reflected - martin filed bug 222905 - but we might want to rev down org.eclipse.rse.services from 3.0.0 back to 2.1.0
Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply patches
- bug 210682 Rupen's multi-file copy/move/overwrite dialog AI Rupen merge again, AI DaveM apply patch soon
- bug 214887 WinCE Subsystem - pending EMO Review
- bug 170910 RSE Terminal Integration - Montavista Contribution pending this friday for API change to allow Streams API for IHostShell
- See the Bug Process Page for a query for open bugs with patches attached
Bug Discussions
- bug 190231 subsystem UI -> Core: AI Martin to ask Dave if questions - idea is an IAdaptable to adapt the Wizard Pages into something consumable in non-UI for configuring subsystems, e.g. Property Sets
- bug 220892 reving down dstore protocol version - AI DaveM implement version handshake as discussed - this is API!
- Waiting for Code Contribution from another team
- Martin: Will not accept any new feature into M6 after this Friday. After M6, API changes are subject to discussion, nobody has a right to change API so in the worst case they may have missed the train and need to fork off their private branch of RSE / DStore.
- (done: Handler Hook for registering handshake handler / error handler; may need new API for protocol handshake)
- Waiting for Code Contribution from another team
- bug 221211 MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. AI DaveD/DaveM update Javadocs when it's clear what we want
- bug 220379 Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter - AI DaveM ask reporters
- bug 220547 SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local - AI DaveM think about
- bug 218947 IRemotePath idea - AI DaveM create new defect for the API change
- DaveM: Naming convention -- IHostPath instead of IRemotePath since located in the Service?
- Looks like we won't get to this for M6
- Bugzilla:
- Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
- Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
- Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 27 weeks / 5 milestones, so each committer is due 54 fixes / 10 unittests
- Current situation is on this bugzilla report
- Unittests: when adding a test, please add the tag //-test-author:YourName in front of it
- DaveM - 5
- DaveD - 22
- KevinD - 11
- MartinO - 3
- TobiasS - 3
- UweS - 7
- XuanC - 51
- Total - 101
- Javier - 0
Committer Status and Report
- Javier leaving Symbian, going to work in Barcelona - will remain involved with DSDP; somebody else from Symbian to take over
- Fix NLS issues AI Javier
- bug 212382 ftpListingParser initCommands AI Javier
- Martin updating Commons Net to 1.5.0
- DaveD
- bug 217894 Subsystem Configuration Families - not for M6 - AI All comment on the bug
- bug 189274 Import/export connections internal but TBD for M6
- DaveM: -
- bug 222404 Associate propery sets with RSE objects and keep those associated in the event of a rename or move - an interesting feature in exchange for events - DaveD: Looks interesting but need to look at closely; Martin - should do Events suggestion for now; maybe could use an adapter factory for data payload, but need more investigation
- EFS and encodings - No response from platform - off our radar for now
- Kevin: - bug 221190 EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly
- Xuan: - Will only have time for PropertyFileAdapter stuff: Property adapters for User actions -- will need some NLS changes
- Compile Commands Problem: Key in property sets is case insensitive in hashmap
- IPZilla: Getting only notifications for WinCE - Martin: Commons Net 1.5 not yet filed, JSch-0.1.37 is approved and in Platform M6
- Martin: - bug 215301 New project plan format -- Need to put Project Plan on the Web; AI Martin written ramp-down plan; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
- Searchcvs, Relnotes done; Little more work needed on web-build and promote.sh
- JSch-0.1.37, Commons.Net 1.5.0
- Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels
- Uwe: -
- Rupen: - Merging multi-copy & rename
- Michael: -
- Questions
Future and Planning
- Planning - AI Martin to write up what we discussed in Toronto
- Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not? - DaveD Mylyn is nice for bug review!
- bug 215301 New Standard Project Plan Format
- TM Website
- AI Kevin follow up on his website proposals
Vacation, Away
- Martin in SFO Apr 14-18 for ESC and PluginFest
- DaveD probably taking some time off
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone: Review bug 216252 SystemMessages refactoring
- DaveD:
- DaveM: Use Properties for Unit Tests
- Xuan: Use Properties for Unit Tests
- Kevin: Website Updates
- Martin: finish new releng; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests
- Javier: bug 212382 ftp initCommands; add unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to CVS -- see also CVS_Development#Testing
- Michael: Terminal improvements
Next Meeting
- Next BugDay/March_2008 on Mar 28
- Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Apr-2008 at 9am PST / 1600 UTC
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Apr-2008 (2 weeks) at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg -- take care of DST differences!