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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Invited Attendees

• IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Eugene Tarassov
• Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Agenda

• Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 5-Mar-2008
• Skype Call Quality
  • Better redial if quality problems

EclipseCon 2008 Report

• Best EclipseCon Ever :-)
• TM Tutorial - focus on 50% TCF and 50% rse; about 30 people, very positive feedback
• TM Short Talk - may re-use slides
• Blog Post about TCF
• CDT Remote / RDT call for participation, being discussed on cdt-dev list for now
• DSDP BOF - towards two "packages" of DSDP projects for mobile Java / device development, likely with P2 installer but on SourceForge due to needing GPL for cross-compilers / emulators
• Big Press hype about Microsoft envolvement in Eclipse but rather disappointing keynote by Sam Ramji - though the EMO likes to see things positive. Still, the facts are: no commitment yet by MS but wants to help out in SWT-WPF port and Higgins-Cardspace
• E4: IBM/RAP want to webalize SWT, which may be a good thing in terms of architecture but is not the whole story: need to collect requirements from all the community in a suitable forum, and a face-to-face kickoff meeting
  • In general, it looks like the community is dozing a little wrt Platform - no exciting new talks, no exciting new features but much more breadth of community. Also, OSGi is gaining even more momentum, new Eclipse RT (Runtime) toplevel project started
• Played with DTP / SQL Query Builder, BIRT Charting
• Eclipse Command Language (ECL) looked very interesting
• Automated UI testing: RCP Robot and FIT was extremely hot - FIT tables in Excel (idea by Ward Cunningham) together with Fixtures maintained by the developer and SWT Bot for the actual test execution
• RTSC and NAB were excellent talks from DSDP
• Had some discussions with Scott Lewis about ECF especially comparing against TCF and integrating into RSE: we should really do an RSE ECF file provider, they got the browsing APIs now
• Most funny EclipseCon stuff: Vista SP1 Features, How to get IP approved quicly, the most awsome guy at Eclipse and its Fake, stuff from the Fake Steve Jobs blog

M6 Focus

• M6 is Apr 07 -- Testing Apr 1 or 2 -- Should do better than last time
• Currently 39 bugs assigned M6 - especially DaveD - what can we really get done
• NLS Fixes - few still missing, see mailing list - must have for M6
• Unit Tests - next priority after API
• Will migrate to new Releng after M6 (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc... too risky for now, focus on API)
• Adopting Api Tooling: Martin tried it out for some plugins - renaming (CANCELLED->CANCELED) is not very well reflected - martin filed bug 222905 - but we might want to rev down org.eclipse.rse.services from 3.0.0 back to 2.1.0

Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply patches

• bug 210682 Rupen's multi-file copy/move/overwrite dialog
• bug 214887 WinCE Subsystem - pending EMO Review
• bug 170910 RSE Terminal Integration - Montavista Contribution pending this friday for API change to allow Streams API for IHostShell
• See the Bug Process Page for a query for open bugs with patches attached

Bug Discussions

• bug 190231 subsystem UI -> Core: AI DaveD help with Wizard Pages and the way they are registered; make them adaptable somehow
• bug 220892 reving down dstore protocol version - AI DaveM implement version handshake as discussed - this is API!
  • (done: Handler Hook for registering handshake handler / error handler; may need new API for protocol handshake)
• bug 221211 MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. AI DaveD/DaveM update Javadocs when it's clear what we want
• bug 220379 Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter, AI Martin comment on bug (object reference idea)
• bug 220547 SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local
• bug 220995 Xuan: Can we remove some interface provided by SystemSelectRemoteFileAction and SystemSelectRemoteFolderAction
• bug 218947 IRemotePath idea - AI DaveM create new defect for the API change
  • DaveM: Naming convention -- IHostPath instead of IRemotePath since located in the Service?
  • Looks like we won't get to this for M6

• Bugzilla:
  • Severity Major, hi-priority

• Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
  • Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
  • Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 27 weeks / 5 milestones, so each committer is due 54 fixes / 10 unittests
  • Current situation is on this bugzilla report
  • Unittests: when adding a test, please add the tag //-test-author:YourName in front of it
    • DaveM - 5
    • DaveD - 22
    • KevinD - 11
    • MartinO - 3
    • TobiasS - 3
    • UweS - 7
    • XuanC - 51
    • Total - 101
    • Javier - 0

Committer Status and Report

• Javier almost finished on Symbian assignment, will have some time for RSE but needs to talk to Manager
  • Martin updating Commons Net to 1.5.0
  • bug 212382 ftpListingParser initCommands
• DaveD
  • bug 217894 Subsystem Configuration Families - subsystem category would be orthogonal to subsystem family -- family would be related to connector service -- change wizard pages from API into plugin.xml markup? AI All comment on the bug
  • Import/export connections rather than profiles - extend the persistence provider for import/export. Use one format for export only in the UI,, perhaps allow multiple providers for import (for migration), perhaps allow multiple kinds of export via API.
• DaveM: -
  • EFS and encodings - No response from platform - suggstion alternative EFS provider, continue discussion on the defect
• Kevin: - bug 221190 EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly
• Xuan: - Will mostly be busy with IBM / Migration work; add useractions to PII mapfile
• Martin: - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
  • Searchcvs, Relnotes done; Little more work needed on web-build and promote.sh
  • JSch-0.1.37, Commons.Net 1.5.0
  • Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels
• Uwe: -
• Rupen: -
• Michael: -
• Questions

Future and Planning

• Planning - AI Martin to write up what we discussed in Toronto
  • Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not? - DaveD Mylyn is nice for bug review!
  • bug 215301 New Standard Project Plan Format
• TM Website
  • AI Kevin follow up on his website proposals

Vacation, Away

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• Everyone: Review bug 216252 SystemMessages refactoring
• DaveD:
• DaveM: Use Properties for Unit Tests
• Xuan: Use Properties for Unit Tests
• Kevin: Website Updates
• Martin: finish new releng; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests
• Javier: bug 212382 ftp initCommands; add unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to CVS -- see also CVS_Development#Testing
• Michael: Terminal improvements

Next Meeting

• Next BugDay/March_2008 on Mar 28
• Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Apr-2008 at 9am PST / 1600 UTC
• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Apr-2008 (2 weeks) at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg -- take care of DST differences!