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== Invited Attendees ==
 
== Invited Attendees ==
* IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kevin Doyle, Xuan Chen, Kushal Munir
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* IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Xuan Chen, (Kevin Doyle n/a), (Kushal Munir n/a)
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
 
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf
 
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf
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| Martin  || 0% ||  || 100%
 
| Martin  || 0% ||  || 100%
 
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| DaveD  || 90% || || 90%
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| DaveD  || 90% || some doc fixes, but things went fairly smoothly || 90%
 
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| DaveM  || 0% ||  || 0%
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| DaveM  || 0% ||  || 30%
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| Kushal  || 0% ||  || 0%
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| Javier  || 30% ||  || 30%
 
| Javier  || 30% ||  || 30%
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| Ted    ||  0% || -  || 0%
 
 
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| Uwe    ||  5% || -  || 5%
 
| Uwe    ||  5% || -  || 5%
 
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| Michael || 10% ||   || 10%
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| Michael || 10% || 1 bugfix for terminal || 10%
 
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=== Ramp Down Plan ===
 
=== Ramp Down Plan ===
 
* [[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa]], based on [[Europa Simultaneous Release#Milestones and Release Candidates]]
 
* [[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa]], based on [[Europa Simultaneous Release#Milestones and Release Candidates]]
** EUROPA -- Jun 29
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** EUROPA -- Jun 29 -- '''No more automatic builds''' (only on request) - '''Wednesday is the absolute final day'''
* Testing: '''Please use RSE recent I-builds yourselves in daily work'''
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** Testing: '''Please use RSE recent I-builds yourselves in daily work'''
* '''All-committer-review required from now on'''. Any urgent known issues?
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** EFS
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** Telnet
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** Javadoc Reviews: @since tag for new API, missing @param tags, ...
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** Discouraged Access Warnings: '''AI Martin''' switch off for dstore by using x-friend in Manifest
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** Currently feels like too many bugs are assigned 2.0.1 -- but we'll decide that after 2.0 is released
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** Our API is still declared "provisional"
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** 2.0.1 work can be done in branches - e.g. "temp201_dwd"? Merge immediately after 2.0 declared. '''Caution:''' 2.0.1 must be binary compatible with 2.0.0. Ensure that you have read the Eclipse API Guidelines again to understand what the restrictions are.
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* '''Newsgroup and Mailing List Duty'''
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=== Bugs and open work to be discussed ===
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=== Open Work for 2.0 ===
 +
* Reminder: All our API is still declared "provisional". Is this ok for everyone?
 +
* '''All-committer-review required from now on'''
 +
* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major Bugs]:
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=193380 193380] Deleting Connection Refresh's Entire Remote Systems View - not major, assigned 2.0.1
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=193858 193858] RSE folder tree problem - tempfiles do not take connection name or user id on remote side into account; similar to tempfiles structure does not support tunnelling - '''AI DaveM''' check whether remoteMountPathMappers extension point can be used to change the mapping scheme; for the future, probably subsystems should contribute some means of qualification
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=187301 187301] (Martin) Telnet does not allow multiple shells
 +
*** Martin wants to apply the (cleaned-up) patch, will affect telnet only
 +
* Other known bugs:
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=192610 192610] (Javier) Create a link to an RSE folder makes eclipse freeze
 +
*** Will likely require a note of caution on using EFS remote projects.
 +
*** Javier could reproduce (with FTP); blocked as long as files were being retrieved from remote server (could be hundreds of files); refreshed file status of hundreds of files (or did it retrieve the files to do some parsing?) - Martin would like to know why it's running in foreground; DaveD: both JDT and CDT are not particularly good at being EFS clients
 +
**** '''AI Javier''': Check FTP Log: Does it download files or just check timestamp? Does it check the same files again and again or always different ones? Also, try a thread dump and attach it to the bug, so we can see who ran it in the UI thread.
 +
**** '''Thread Dump Utility''':
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***** On UNIX, do [http://www.google.at/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.java.sun.com%2Fthread.jspa%3FthreadID%3D658931%26messageID%3D3870534&ei=CDWBRumUDYvO-gKk6KWxAQ&usg=AFQjCNGRxjDpZTipottXxnZkiaZ2D3y9tA&sig2=fCjm0ANtZHKmOPi6axmMDA kill -SIGQUIT] in order to get a thread dump on the console
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***** On Windows, use [http://www.adaptj.com/root/main/tracehowtos AdaptJ Java StackTrace] (click on "Launch StackTrace" on the web page; it's free when launched from the Web. Attach to the program. In the stacktrace, you can copy&paste, or save the trace.
 +
** Several Doc issues opened (broken links) - affect doc plugin only; '''AI DaveD'''
 +
* DStore: Change the default daemon port for 2.0, since the protocol is not compatible? - Would allow multiple dstore daemons for multiple different versions run in parallel on one host
 +
** DaveM: IBM internally uses different daemon ports for different protocol versions right now; different IBM products have different ways of dealing with this, e.g. z/OS has its own daemon; TPF uses rexec; for testing, just pick a port; in the past, administrators just knew what's going on; DaveM slightly in favor of changing the port number but not seen as critical since people typically specifiy their own ports; DaveD thinks it would be a good idea for convenience (increment 4035 to 4036)
 +
*** IANA Port Numbers: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers search for Unassigned, e.g. 4370 Unassigned
 +
*** '''AI Martin''' file bug for DaveM
 +
* '''New & Noteworthy''' - '''AI Martin create, others fill in'''
 +
* '''Release Notes'''
 +
** These will live in the www-tm-development project. Please fill in!
  
* '''Current Priorities:''' Stabilize
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=== Work post 2.0 ===
** '''Javier''': There appears to be a problem in the underlying EFS support (see [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=192610 192610]). Continuing investigation, but will likely require a note of caution on using EFS remote projects.
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* Javadoc Reviews: @since tag for new API, missing @param tags, ... better don't change since these force rebuild of many plugins
** '''DaveD''':
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* Currently feels like too many bugs are assigned 2.0.1 -- but we'll decide that after 2.0 is released
** '''DaveM''':  
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** Kushal some of your assigned are 2.0.1 -- will you be able to work on those?
** '''Xuan''':  
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* 2.0.1 work can be done in branches - e.g. "temp201_dwd"? Merge immediately after 2.0 declared. '''Caution:''' 2.0.1 must be binary compatible with 2.0.0. Ensure that you have read the Eclipse API Guidelines again to understand what the restrictions are.
** '''Martin''': Releng scripts remain as they are for now - might consume Orbit manually at the end;  
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** Platform has branched 3.3.1 already, and releases 3.3 from the branch
*** Review and release Telnet fixes;
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* Other work
*** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=186315 186315] EFS problematic URIs - would love to see those fixed
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** Discouraged Access Warnings: switch off for dstore by using x-friend in Manifest?
 +
*** subsystems.files.dstore --> dstore.extra: DomainNotifier.addDomainListener(), DomainNotifier.removeDomainListener() - DaveM: This is a dstore-specific thing and should not be public API
 +
*** DaveD: Friend may be the right thing in many cases; but we might be hiding some stuff that should be API, so we should treat these case by case
 +
*** Should look at the list of x-friend declarations and check if these still hold
 +
*** Filed [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=194475 bug #194475] to track these
 
** '''Kushal''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=174789 174789] Property pages added to Wizard automatically: '''AI Kushal''' investigate (will likely be taken by DaveD - Kushal to leave the team?)
 
** '''Kushal''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=174789 174789] Property pages added to Wizard automatically: '''AI Kushal''' investigate (will likely be taken by DaveD - Kushal to leave the team?)
 +
** '''Martin''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=186315 186315] EFS problematic URIs - would love to see those fixed, supposedly affect efs plugin only
 +
*** Releng scripts: won't consume Commons Net officially via Orbit for now
 
* '''Bugzilla''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority]
 
* '''Bugzilla''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority]
  
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Jun-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Jun-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''DaveD''': Doc items
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* '''Everybody''': Comment / Grant Review on [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=194442 194442] default dstore daemon port, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=187301 187301] telnet multiple shells
* '''DaveM''': 2.0.1 fixes
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* '''DaveD''': Doc bugs (broken links)
 +
* '''DaveM''': Check whether mountPathMappers can workaround [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=193858 193858], comment on the bug about reason and possible workarounds; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=194442 194442] change dstore daemon default port
 
* '''Kushal''':  
 
* '''Kushal''':  
* '''Martin''':  
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* '''Martin''': [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=187301 187301] telnet; create new&notewothy, release notes
* '''Javier''':  
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* '''Javier''': Investigate [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=192610 192610] as mentioned during the meeting, add comments on the bug
 
* '''Michael''':  
 
* '''Michael''':  
  

Latest revision as of 09:52, 4 July 2007

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Jun 26, 2007 at 1500 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Invited Attendees

  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Xuan Chen, (Kevin Doyle n/a), (Kushal Munir n/a)
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Notes

News & Review Action Items

Martin 0% 100%
DaveD 90% some doc fixes, but things went fairly smoothly 90%
DaveM 0% 30%
Javier 30% 30%
Uwe 5% - 5%
Michael 10% 1 bugfix for terminal 10%

Plan for the TM Future

  • Please review and edit TM Future Planning together with your Requirements / Product Management folk
  • A TM Project Meeting is planned for SEPTEMBER 19th and 20th in Chicago, together with the Members Meeting.

Ramp Down Plan

Open Work for 2.0

  • Reminder: All our API is still declared "provisional". Is this ok for everyone?
  • All-committer-review required from now on
  • Severity Major Bugs:
    • 193380 Deleting Connection Refresh's Entire Remote Systems View - not major, assigned 2.0.1
    • 193858 RSE folder tree problem - tempfiles do not take connection name or user id on remote side into account; similar to tempfiles structure does not support tunnelling - AI DaveM check whether remoteMountPathMappers extension point can be used to change the mapping scheme; for the future, probably subsystems should contribute some means of qualification
    • 187301 (Martin) Telnet does not allow multiple shells
      • Martin wants to apply the (cleaned-up) patch, will affect telnet only
  • Other known bugs:
    • 192610 (Javier) Create a link to an RSE folder makes eclipse freeze
      • Will likely require a note of caution on using EFS remote projects.
      • Javier could reproduce (with FTP); blocked as long as files were being retrieved from remote server (could be hundreds of files); refreshed file status of hundreds of files (or did it retrieve the files to do some parsing?) - Martin would like to know why it's running in foreground; DaveD: both JDT and CDT are not particularly good at being EFS clients
        • AI Javier: Check FTP Log: Does it download files or just check timestamp? Does it check the same files again and again or always different ones? Also, try a thread dump and attach it to the bug, so we can see who ran it in the UI thread.
        • Thread Dump Utility:
          • On UNIX, do kill -SIGQUIT in order to get a thread dump on the console
          • On Windows, use AdaptJ Java StackTrace (click on "Launch StackTrace" on the web page; it's free when launched from the Web. Attach to the program. In the stacktrace, you can copy&paste, or save the trace.
    • Several Doc issues opened (broken links) - affect doc plugin only; AI DaveD
  • DStore: Change the default daemon port for 2.0, since the protocol is not compatible? - Would allow multiple dstore daemons for multiple different versions run in parallel on one host
    • DaveM: IBM internally uses different daemon ports for different protocol versions right now; different IBM products have different ways of dealing with this, e.g. z/OS has its own daemon; TPF uses rexec; for testing, just pick a port; in the past, administrators just knew what's going on; DaveM slightly in favor of changing the port number but not seen as critical since people typically specifiy their own ports; DaveD thinks it would be a good idea for convenience (increment 4035 to 4036)
  • New & Noteworthy - AI Martin create, others fill in
  • Release Notes
    • These will live in the www-tm-development project. Please fill in!

Work post 2.0

  • Javadoc Reviews: @since tag for new API, missing @param tags, ... better don't change since these force rebuild of many plugins
  • Currently feels like too many bugs are assigned 2.0.1 -- but we'll decide that after 2.0 is released
    • Kushal some of your assigned are 2.0.1 -- will you be able to work on those?
  • 2.0.1 work can be done in branches - e.g. "temp201_dwd"? Merge immediately after 2.0 declared. Caution: 2.0.1 must be binary compatible with 2.0.0. Ensure that you have read the Eclipse API Guidelines again to understand what the restrictions are.
    • Platform has branched 3.3.1 already, and releases 3.3 from the branch
  • Other work
    • Discouraged Access Warnings: switch off for dstore by using x-friend in Manifest?
      • subsystems.files.dstore --> dstore.extra: DomainNotifier.addDomainListener(), DomainNotifier.removeDomainListener() - DaveM: This is a dstore-specific thing and should not be public API
      • DaveD: Friend may be the right thing in many cases; but we might be hiding some stuff that should be API, so we should treat these case by case
      • Should look at the list of x-friend declarations and check if these still hold
      • Filed bug #194475 to track these
    • Kushal: 174789 Property pages added to Wizard automatically: AI Kushal investigate (will likely be taken by DaveD - Kushal to leave the team?)
    • Martin: 186315 EFS problematic URIs - would love to see those fixed, supposedly affect efs plugin only
      • Releng scripts: won't consume Commons Net officially via Orbit for now
  • Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority

Vacation, Away

  • DaveM, DaveD taking a couple weeks in August
  • Javier ooo last two weeks in August

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • Everybody: Comment / Grant Review on 194442 default dstore daemon port, 187301 telnet multiple shells
  • DaveD: Doc bugs (broken links)
  • DaveM: Check whether mountPathMappers can workaround 193858, comment on the bug about reason and possible workarounds; 194442 change dstore daemon default port
  • Kushal:
  • Martin: 187301 telnet; create new&notewothy, release notes
  • Javier: Investigate 192610 as mentioned during the meeting, add comments on the bug
  • Michael:

Next Meeting