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| − | | Wednesday [[Oct 25, 2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=10&day= | + | | Wednesday [[Oct 25, 2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=10&day=25&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg] |
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* IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir | * IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir | ||
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | * Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | ||
| − | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Uwe Stieber (absent), Michael Scharf (absent) |
| − | * Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger (tentative) | + | * Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger (tentative, did not come) |
== Agenda == | == Agenda == | ||
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** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ||
* Latest News | * Latest News | ||
| − | ** Martin -- | + | ** Martin -- Eclipse.org about files review; updating TM website; joining Orbit for Commons Net |
| − | ** DaveD -- | + | ** DaveD -- fixed few bugs for IBM (accessibility), full time now on P2 bugs |
| − | ** DaveM -- | + | ** DaveM -- bug work; pondering some "intended behavior" things |
| − | ** Kushal -- | + | *** '''New scheme for deferring bugs''': set Target Milestone="---" and probably lower priority. This is because "RESOLVED LATER" is uncomfortable to handle -- cannot reopen multiple at once, comment needed for reopen, easily confused against regression of bugs |
| − | ** Javier -- | + | ** Kushal -- fixing P2s first, then going to look at easy P3 |
| − | ** Ted -- | + | ** Javier -- fixing P2s; looking at P3s now; stress testing on FTP; |
| − | ** Uwe -- | + | ** Ted -- no news |
| − | ** Michael -- | + | ** Uwe -- not available |
| + | ** Michael -- not available | ||
** Other News -- | ** Other News -- | ||
| + | *** Stefan Reichert, maintainer of Wicked Shell, wants to join RSE as contributor | ||
| + | *** Lothar Werzinger of Tradescape submitted 2 patches, which is making him contributor | ||
* Top Priorities this week: | * Top Priorities this week: | ||
| − | ** '''#1 - Hi-priority bugfixing''' | + | ** '''#1 - Hi-priority bugfixing''' - please observe the priorities. |
| − | ** ''' | + | ** '''#2 - Being responsive''' |
| − | *** | + | *** When you are personally addressed in a bug comment, please answer timely. Bugzilla E-Mail notifications should tell you so. It's important to answer and give your comment but not invest too much time -- the bulk of your time should still go into hi-priority bugfixing. |
| − | + | *** Saved searches: Every committer should have at least 3 saved searches: '''Assigned to me''', '''RSE P1/P2''', '''RSE Open changed last week''' | |
| − | *** | + | *** You can then e.g. sort the '''Assigned to me''' search by Status to see what's in NEW state and should be accepted (set ASSIGNED) |
| − | *** | + | *** See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] for templates of these searches. You can just click on them and "Save as..." in bugzilla for your personal use |
* Upcoming Work | * Upcoming Work | ||
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ||
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*** Events/Updates/Refresh; Dirty Editors | *** Events/Updates/Refresh; Dirty Editors | ||
* Communications | * Communications | ||
| − | ** | + | ** Extend Uwe's commit rights to RSE? - Let him submit patches for 1 more week and decide then. Basically OK with plain [cleanup] changes in RSE, but need to be careful with changing terminology or API changes. |
| + | *** Martin agrees that for API changes, the process is propose first - vote next - code only then. | ||
* Change Requests | * Change Requests | ||
| − | ** | + | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=161773 Bug 161773]: IHostShell.getLines() should return IHostOutput[] instead of Object[] |
| + | ** Ted Terminal view: Will go forward splitting it up such that the Transport can be contributed. Expects a version in 2 weeks | ||
| + | * [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] | ||
| + | ** Europa Milestones fixed, our first Europa delivery is Jan.3rd to be compiled against Eclipse 3.3 | ||
| + | ** We will have a service release (RSE 1.0.1) in december, out of the HEAD stream; then start a branch for RSE 1.0.2 (probably end of february, along with Eclipse 3.2.2) | ||
| + | ** So we will compile against Eclipse 3.2 until beginning of december, and not make any API changes till then | ||
| + | ** Focus till then will be on bug fixing, and starting the IP review process for User Actions and Import/Export | ||
| + | ** User Actions and Import/Export will not make it in december; to be ready for EclipseCon | ||
| + | ** RSE 1.0.1 content will be bug fixes and the new Terminal | ||
* Vacations, Holidays etc. | * Vacations, Holidays etc. | ||
** Martin - public holidays Oct 26, Nov 1-2 | ** Martin - public holidays Oct 26, Nov 1-2 | ||
| + | ** US Thanksgiving - End of November | ||
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | * Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | ||
| − | ** EclipseCon 2007 coming in March. Call for Papers has been issued. Martin | + | ** EclipseCon 2007 coming in March. Call for Papers has been issued. Martin and DaveM will submit proposal for 2 hour tutorial. |
== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
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== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
| − | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting | + | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 31-Oct-2006]] at 8am SFO/10.00am Rochester/11.00pm Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg |
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006]] at 9am PST | * Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006]] at 9am PST | ||
Latest revision as of 12:00, 25 October 2006
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Wednesday Oct 25, 2006 at 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg |
| Dial-in: | International +1 314-655-1411 North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free) Passcode: 764918 |
DaveD to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above. Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, and uwe.stieber. DaveD will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Uwe Stieber (absent), Michael Scharf (absent)
- Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger (tentative, did not come)
Agenda
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
- Latest News
- Martin -- Eclipse.org about files review; updating TM website; joining Orbit for Commons Net
- DaveD -- fixed few bugs for IBM (accessibility), full time now on P2 bugs
- DaveM -- bug work; pondering some "intended behavior" things
- New scheme for deferring bugs: set Target Milestone="---" and probably lower priority. This is because "RESOLVED LATER" is uncomfortable to handle -- cannot reopen multiple at once, comment needed for reopen, easily confused against regression of bugs
- Kushal -- fixing P2s first, then going to look at easy P3
- Javier -- fixing P2s; looking at P3s now; stress testing on FTP;
- Ted -- no news
- Uwe -- not available
- Michael -- not available
- Other News --
- Stefan Reichert, maintainer of Wicked Shell, wants to join RSE as contributor
- Lothar Werzinger of Tradescape submitted 2 patches, which is making him contributor
- Top Priorities this week:
- #1 - Hi-priority bugfixing - please observe the priorities.
- #2 - Being responsive
- When you are personally addressed in a bug comment, please answer timely. Bugzilla E-Mail notifications should tell you so. It's important to answer and give your comment but not invest too much time -- the bulk of your time should still go into hi-priority bugfixing.
- Saved searches: Every committer should have at least 3 saved searches: Assigned to me, RSE P1/P2, RSE Open changed last week
- You can then e.g. sort the Assigned to me search by Status to see what's in NEW state and should be accepted (set ASSIGNED)
- See the Bug Process Page for templates of these searches. You can just click on them and "Save as..." in bugzilla for your personal use
- Upcoming Work
- New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
- Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
- Our biggest problems right now
- Drag&Drop
- Events/Updates/Refresh; Dirty Editors
- New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
- Communications
- Extend Uwe's commit rights to RSE? - Let him submit patches for 1 more week and decide then. Basically OK with plain [cleanup] changes in RSE, but need to be careful with changing terminology or API changes.
- Martin agrees that for API changes, the process is propose first - vote next - code only then.
- Extend Uwe's commit rights to RSE? - Let him submit patches for 1 more week and decide then. Basically OK with plain [cleanup] changes in RSE, but need to be careful with changing terminology or API changes.
- Change Requests
- Bug 161773: IHostShell.getLines() should return IHostOutput[] instead of Object[]
- Ted Terminal view: Will go forward splitting it up such that the Transport can be contributed. Expects a version in 2 weeks
- RSE 2.0 Planning
- Europa Milestones fixed, our first Europa delivery is Jan.3rd to be compiled against Eclipse 3.3
- We will have a service release (RSE 1.0.1) in december, out of the HEAD stream; then start a branch for RSE 1.0.2 (probably end of february, along with Eclipse 3.2.2)
- So we will compile against Eclipse 3.2 until beginning of december, and not make any API changes till then
- Focus till then will be on bug fixing, and starting the IP review process for User Actions and Import/Export
- User Actions and Import/Export will not make it in december; to be ready for EclipseCon
- RSE 1.0.1 content will be bug fixes and the new Terminal
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Martin - public holidays Oct 26, Nov 1-2
- US Thanksgiving - End of November
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
- EclipseCon 2007 coming in March. Call for Papers has been issued. Martin and DaveM will submit proposal for 2 hour tutorial.
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Edit Code Ownership. Hi-Pri bugs. New bug for moving DTD.
- DaveM - Hi-pri bugs
- Kushal - Hi-pri bugs; Encoding bugs?
- Martin - Create empty project plan; TM FAQ on the Wiki; Hi-pri bugs;
- Javier - FTP bugs; Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
- Ted - Terminalview; Document the build process
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 31-Oct-2006 at 8am SFO/10.00am Rochester/11.00pm Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg
- Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006 at 9am PST