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== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
| − | * IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir | + | * IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, (Kushal Munir n/a), Kevin Doyle, Sanjayan Eladchumanasamy |
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | * Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | ||
| − | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a), (Ted Williams n/a) |
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | ||
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| Martin || 100% || [done] Add Import/Export and UDA to I-builds; updated website; moved events to core; || 100% | | Martin || 100% || [done] Add Import/Export and UDA to I-builds; updated website; moved events to core; || 100% | ||
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| − | | DaveD || 70% || Persistence Improvements || | + | | DaveD || 70% || Persistence Improvements; Converting Translation test cases and filing bugs || 100% |
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| − | | DaveM || | + | | DaveM || 30% || Bugfixes; [done] Fixed Import/Export || 40% |
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| Kushal || (?) || BIDI Encodings || (?) | | Kushal || (?) || BIDI Encodings || (?) | ||
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** '''Priority #1: Finish API Changes''' | ** '''Priority #1: Finish API Changes''' | ||
*** '''Javier''': FTP parallel download, allowing to register directory listing parser by extension point | *** '''Javier''': FTP parallel download, allowing to register directory listing parser by extension point | ||
| + | **** Please check in changes even if they are partial, so they are part of refactoring | ||
*** '''DaveD''': Persistence (for UDA); UI/Non-UI | *** '''DaveD''': Persistence (for UDA); UI/Non-UI | ||
| + | **** Persistence Provider: try to make the configurable one independent of IResource - and probably wrap it in another one that does know the WorkspaceRoot and thus depends on IResource | ||
| + | *** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=182221 bug 182221]: Should IRemoteFileSubSystem handle exceptions (by showing dialogs)? What about ISubSystem in general? | ||
| + | **** Add API to register a notifier or errorhandler with the Subsystem? One option in the notifier could be to ignore exceptions | ||
| + | **** Uwe: Eclipse 3.3 unified the concept of the StatusHandlers (in org.eclipse.ui) -- throwing CoreException with IStatus | ||
| + | **** DaveM, DaveD are in favor of getting exceptions thrown, but are worried about the amount of code to change | ||
| + | **** Martin: Changing the method signature to throw SystemMessageException should make the compiler show problematic places | ||
| + | **** DaveD: We have utility methods (in the UI) for handling SystemMessageException | ||
| + | **** '''Future:''' SystemMessageException could wrap IStatus at some point, bringing us closer to Eclipse | ||
| + | **** DaveM: Would adapters (like getChildren()) just pass on exceptions as well? Where do we want to decide to handle the exception | ||
| + | **** '''Decision:''' Pragmatically, start converting simple methods in IRemoteFileSubSystem; but not convert ones that look too difficult - bring it up again next week | ||
** '''Priority #2: Import/Export and User Actions''' | ** '''Priority #2: Import/Export and User Actions''' | ||
| − | *** '''AI DaveD, Kushal''' persistence with User Actions; Dave working on API prerequisites now; | + | *** DaveM: Import/Export should be complete |
| + | *** '''AI DaveD, Kushal''' persistence with User Actions; Dave working on API prerequisites now; | ||
** '''Priority #3: Bugs''' | ** '''Priority #3: Bugs''' | ||
*** Bugzilla: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority] | *** Bugzilla: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority] | ||
*** Encoding Issues: Kushal single encoding control for all subsystems? | *** Encoding Issues: Kushal single encoding control for all subsystems? | ||
*** BIDI bugs: Will we adopt [[ICU4J]]? (Note according to [[RCP FAQ]], ICU4J is required by org.eclipse.help and thus part of the core RCP already - though this may be changed ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=183761 bug 183761]). | *** BIDI bugs: Will we adopt [[ICU4J]]? (Note according to [[RCP FAQ]], ICU4J is required by org.eclipse.help and thus part of the core RCP already - though this may be changed ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=183761 bug 183761]). | ||
| − | *** Who wants to commit patches from | + | **** ICU4J is part of the Platform already; we should start using it; can defer the changes to later since no API change, try to keep it in UI only |
| + | **** '''AI DaveD''' to follow up on the concrete [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=183631 bug 183631] and fix it, to get experience with ICU4J | ||
| + | *** Who wants to commit patches from Kevin -- update the [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] page | ||
*** EFS: Copy(), Move(); Open Remote Project on Startup: Get rid of IResource dependencies where possible; minimal plugin activations; UI/Non-UI | *** EFS: Copy(), Move(); Open Remote Project on Startup: Get rid of IResource dependencies where possible; minimal plugin activations; UI/Non-UI | ||
*** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=182454 182454] - what is the meaning of ISystemViewElementAdapter.getAbsoluteName() | *** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=182454 182454] - what is the meaning of ISystemViewElementAdapter.getAbsoluteName() | ||
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* '''General Guidelines''' | * '''General Guidelines''' | ||
| − | ** Avoid breaking API changes if possible (keep delegate methods, use deprecation) | + | ** Breaking API OK this week, but |
| + | *** Avoid breaking API changes if possible afterwards (keep delegate methods, use deprecation) | ||
| + | ** Kevin, Sanjayan currently doing Vista testing; some more internal RSE stuff | ||
| + | *** DaveM talking to them beginning of May about coding | ||
| + | *** Sanyaan won't be with us for too much longer, but somebody else may be around | ||
| + | *** Martin sending out the keyword for marking "junior bugs" | ||
== Vacation, Away == | == Vacation, Away == | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Apr-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Apr-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
| − | * '''DaveD''': | + | * '''DaveD''': Translation Testcases; Persistence Provider without IResource; Get started on ICU4J with [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=183631 bug 183631]; User Actions |
| − | * '''DaveM''': | + | * '''DaveM''': Bugs |
| − | * '''Kushal''': BIDI bugs | + | * '''Kushal''': BIDI bugs and Encodings |
| − | * '''Martin''': Testing Stats; Refresh improvements; Integrating Terminal with RSE | + | * '''Martin''': API cleanups; Testing Stats; Refresh improvements; Integrating Terminal with RSE |
* '''Javier''': FTP parallel download, registering FTP Parser by extension point | * '''Javier''': FTP parallel download, registering FTP Parser by extension point | ||
Latest revision as of 12:29, 24 April 2007
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Tuesday Apr 24, 2007 at 1500 UTC |
| Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, (Kushal Munir n/a), Kevin Doyle, Sanjayan Eladchumanasamy
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a), (Ted Williams n/a)
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Apr-2007
News & Review Action Items
| Martin | 100% | [done] Add Import/Export and UDA to I-builds; updated website; moved events to core; | 100% |
| DaveD | 70% | Persistence Improvements; Converting Translation test cases and filing bugs | 100% |
| DaveM | 30% | Bugfixes; [done] Fixed Import/Export | 40% |
| Kushal | (?) | BIDI Encodings | (?) |
| Javier | 50% | FTP Parser Extension Point - Problems persisting Property Set | 50% |
| Ted | 0% | - | 0% |
| Uwe | 5% | - | 5% |
| Michael | 10% | 10% |
Time Plan and Deadlines toward M7
- Plan towards M7 - goals and deadlines for I-builds
- I20070426 -- Major breaking API changes (Martin: getSystemType(), getInstance(); UI/Non-UI; Persistence)
- I20070503 -- Minor API changes - Final Feature Additions - Feature Freeze (Terminal integration; FTP Parser)
- I20070510 -- Stabilization, start TM 2.0 M7 Testing on May 14th
- I20070516 -- TM 2.0M7 (17th is a public holiday in Austria!)
Bugs and open work to be discussed
- Current Priorities
- Priority #1: Finish API Changes
- Javier: FTP parallel download, allowing to register directory listing parser by extension point
- Please check in changes even if they are partial, so they are part of refactoring
- DaveD: Persistence (for UDA); UI/Non-UI
- Persistence Provider: try to make the configurable one independent of IResource - and probably wrap it in another one that does know the WorkspaceRoot and thus depends on IResource
- bug 182221: Should IRemoteFileSubSystem handle exceptions (by showing dialogs)? What about ISubSystem in general?
- Add API to register a notifier or errorhandler with the Subsystem? One option in the notifier could be to ignore exceptions
- Uwe: Eclipse 3.3 unified the concept of the StatusHandlers (in org.eclipse.ui) -- throwing CoreException with IStatus
- DaveM, DaveD are in favor of getting exceptions thrown, but are worried about the amount of code to change
- Martin: Changing the method signature to throw SystemMessageException should make the compiler show problematic places
- DaveD: We have utility methods (in the UI) for handling SystemMessageException
- Future: SystemMessageException could wrap IStatus at some point, bringing us closer to Eclipse
- DaveM: Would adapters (like getChildren()) just pass on exceptions as well? Where do we want to decide to handle the exception
- Decision: Pragmatically, start converting simple methods in IRemoteFileSubSystem; but not convert ones that look too difficult - bring it up again next week
- Javier: FTP parallel download, allowing to register directory listing parser by extension point
- Priority #2: Import/Export and User Actions
- DaveM: Import/Export should be complete
- AI DaveD, Kushal persistence with User Actions; Dave working on API prerequisites now;
- Priority #3: Bugs
- Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority
- Encoding Issues: Kushal single encoding control for all subsystems?
- BIDI bugs: Will we adopt ICU4J? (Note according to RCP FAQ, ICU4J is required by org.eclipse.help and thus part of the core RCP already - though this may be changed (bug 183761).
- ICU4J is part of the Platform already; we should start using it; can defer the changes to later since no API change, try to keep it in UI only
- AI DaveD to follow up on the concrete bug 183631 and fix it, to get experience with ICU4J
- Who wants to commit patches from Kevin -- update the DSDP/TM/Code Ownership page
- EFS: Copy(), Move(); Open Remote Project on Startup: Get rid of IResource dependencies where possible; minimal plugin activations; UI/Non-UI
- 182454 - what is the meaning of ISystemViewElementAdapter.getAbsoluteName()
- Priority #1: Finish API Changes
- General Guidelines
- Breaking API OK this week, but
- Avoid breaking API changes if possible afterwards (keep delegate methods, use deprecation)
- Kevin, Sanjayan currently doing Vista testing; some more internal RSE stuff
- DaveM talking to them beginning of May about coding
- Sanyaan won't be with us for too much longer, but somebody else may be around
- Martin sending out the keyword for marking "junior bugs"
- Breaking API OK this week, but
Vacation, Away
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD: Translation Testcases; Persistence Provider without IResource; Get started on ICU4J with bug 183631; User Actions
- DaveM: Bugs
- Kushal: BIDI bugs and Encodings
- Martin: API cleanups; Testing Stats; Refresh improvements; Integrating Terminal with RSE
- Javier: FTP parallel download, registering FTP Parser by extension point
Next Meeting
- May 1st is a public holiday in Austria --> Moving to May 2nd, before the Monthly TM Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 2-May-2007 at 1500 UTC
- Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-May-2007 at 9am PST / 1600 UTC