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** Projects rarely exchange prototypy code across company boundaries
 
** Projects rarely exchange prototypy code across company boundaries
 
** We could have org.eclipse.tm.rse/playground/{plugin} but then all code checked in there must be EPL -- do we want this, or can we set up something more private?
 
** We could have org.eclipse.tm.rse/playground/{plugin} but then all code checked in there must be EPL -- do we want this, or can we set up something more private?
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** Should we attach the multi-command stuff to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=159164 bug 159164] for now?
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Latest revision as of 09:31, 28 November 2006

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Nov 21, 2006 at 1500 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Contents

[edit] Attendees

  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams
  • Tradescape - (Lothar Werzinger n/a)

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

[edit] Notes

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

[edit] Latest News

Martin 30% Bug triage; prepared M-builds; signed Jars bug 163421; Windriver work towards RSE 80%
DaveD 80% Bug triage [6 hrs] and fixing; Montavista CQ submitted; some IBM work needed for User Commands and Import/Export 20%
DaveM 90% Bug triage [6-8 hrs] and fixing; EFS with Kushal 80%
Kushal 50% looked at EFS with DaveM, and encodings; bug triage and fixing. AI assign target milestones 50%
Javier 80% Fixing FTP bugs 50%
Ted 5% working on Build for DD; decided not to use buckminster 5%
Uwe 10% Nothing new this week, going to work on Unit Tests for RSE 50%
Michael 50% Refactoring the Terminal View bug 165177 50%
  • Bug triage took some time, especially verifying what was still a bug - but time was well invested
    • Some bugs might need a state like "need to be divided", for example the RemoteTempFiles thing
    • Others might need combining into plan items; this will be part of 2.0 planning
    • Perhaps we could be more effective by (a) getting the bugcount down and (b) "doing the right thing right away"
  • Get the bugcount down for 1.0.1, get simple things off the table
  • TempFilesCache: Pathlength; Case sensitivity; think about pathname mangling is separate from the decision whether we want the project in the workspace
    • EFS problems are mostly due to Eclipse Jobs locking the Resource during EFS access -- but on the other hand, we'll need RemoteTempFiles as an Eclipse Resource in order to get the Outline View


[edit] Upcoming Work

  • Top Priorities this week
    • #1 - Being responsive - on Newsgroup, Mailinglist and bug reports. We'll probably get lots of new users as we have RSE 1.0. Let's nurture our user community and encourage them to become contributors in case they have requests. Make sure that E-Mail notifications are turned on for bugzilla (and probably also the Wiki FAQ etc.)
    • #2 - Continue fixing bugs and improving documentation - Let's make sure that users who have problems with 1.0 can get a subsequent I-build as patch soon after. Let's make sure users get missing documentation wherever needed. Instead of answering a question by E-Mail, let's fix the corresponding documentation or FAQ and point the users to it.
    • #3 - Plan RSE 1.0.1 and RSE 2.0
  • Work towards RSE 1.0.1
    • Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
      • Also need a CQ for two Userdoc files for the Internal Comms Daemon
    • Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature (DaveD, Uwe)
    • Continue bug fixing on HEAD (All)
    • Continue bug verifications for all fixed bugs. Sombody else than the person fixing a bug should verify it.
    • Fix compiler warnings (Kushal) - prepare for running FindBugs
      • There is also the TPTP StaticAnalysis thing
    • Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review, and improve all docs
    • 1.0.1 non-breaking API changes: See Evolving Java-based APIs
  • Work towards RSE 2.0

[edit] Communications

  • DSDP/TM/Code_Ownership - is it complete now?
  • bug 160783: "Remote Commands View" vs. "Remote Shell View"
    • What was the IBM Rationale behind renaming it to "Remote Shell"?
    • A Shell is something long-running, interactive whereas a command is something run only once
    • The Terminal will provide access to interactive shells including full terminal emulation; we'll need a clear separation between what a "Terminal" and what a "Command Shell" is
  • Place for Prototyping:
    • Projects rarely exchange prototypy code across company boundaries
    • We could have org.eclipse.tm.rse/playground/{plugin} but then all code checked in there must be EPL -- do we want this, or can we set up something more private?
    • Should we attach the multi-command stuff to bug 159164 for now?
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

[edit] Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - CQ for Internal Communications Server Userdocs; Edit Code Ownership. Submit UDA and Import/Export for IBM internal review; JUnit tests; Hi-Pri bugs. New bug for moving DTD.
  • DaveM - Bugs
  • Kushal - Assign Target Milestones; Bugs
  • Martin - Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on RSE 2.0 Planning; TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute); Hi-pri bugs;
  • Javier - Bugs
  • Ted - Document the build process (DD project), prepare for Europa build
  • Michael - Terminalview
  • Uwe - RSE Systemview performance unit tests

[edit] Next Meeting