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Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.<br/>
 
Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.<br/>
  
== Invited Attendees ==
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== Attendees ==
 
* IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
 
* IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
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* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
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* ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
 
* ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
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* '''Regrets this time''': Michael Scharf, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton, Javier Montalvo Orus
  
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
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== Notes ==
 
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== Agenda ==
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* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 30-Apr-2008]]
 
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 30-Apr-2008]]
 
* '''Skype Call Quality'''
 
* '''Skype Call Quality'''
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** Skypecast quality was OK in the beginning with up to 4 participants, but became unbearable shortly later. Rado was unable to dial into the Skypecast (sitting behind an HTTP proxy).
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** Normal Skype conference worked very fine for all 8 participants this time, but 8 really is the limit here (9th person trying to accept invitation cannot join).
  
 
=== '''New Stuff''' ===
 
=== '''New Stuff''' ===
* Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg01869.html tm-dev E-Mail]
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** Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss [https://mailman.cs.umd.edu/pipermail/findbugs-discuss/2008-May/002374.html link]
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* Late API Change Requests
 +
** We really need to draw a finishing line now!
 +
** {{Bug|233068}} - [api][breaking] Remove tm.discovery.edit reexport of EMF -- '''accepted, Martin'''
 +
** {{Bug|231209}} - [api][breaking] IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection() should be changed to IRemoteFile.getHost() -- '''accepted, DaveM'''
 +
** {{Bug|230821}} - [api][breaking] IRemoteFileSubsystem is inconsistent with IFileService -- '''DaveD to investigate impact''', committers in favor of the change if doable.
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** {{Bug|230919}} - [api][breaking][files] IFileService.delete() should not return a boolean -- Rado: can handle all cases with exceptions, inconvenient to do both. Martin: boolean value would hardly ever be used. Rado: Not checking return values is bad practice. Martin: It boils down to the question whether it is an error to try and delete a file that's not there. -- '''accepted, Rado to make the change'''
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** {{Bug|212742}} - [api] Need a Utility to send commands and receive output without prompt -- DaveM: We have RemoteCommandShellOperation with BEGIN-END-TAGS (but how reliable is it?) -- '''denied''', due to lack of time
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** Changes to go into RC2
 +
 
 +
=== '''Steps Towards Ganymede''' ===
 
* [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]]
 
* [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]]
* Javadoc API Tooling API Comments (@noextend and friends) - {{Bug|227368}}, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 4] and [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 6]
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** We have RC1, so from now on EVERY checkin must be tracked in bugzilla, even simple cleanups (except documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
** [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]]
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** there MUST be a +1 vote on the bug (though the vote can happen after the fact)
* Hi-pri-bugs; community contributions; apply [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 patches] (see also the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] for a query)
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** Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale
  
=== Committer Status and Report ===
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* '''Testing'''
* '''Javier''' - New Employer in Barcelona
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** We should do another round of coordinated testing with TM 3.0 RC2 in order to find bugs important enough to get fixed
* '''DaveD''' -
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** Who can organize it? - '''DaveD''' write up wiki page, '''Martin''' E-mail testers
** {{bug|189274}} Import/export connections
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* '''DaveM:''' -
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** JUnit should autotest dstore against old servers as well - an IBM thing
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* '''Kevin:''' -
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* '''Xuan:''' -
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* '''Martin:''' - {{bug|215301}} New project plan format -- Need to put Project Plan on the Web; '''AI Martin''' written ramp-down plan; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
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** JSch-0.1.37 done in Platform M6, Commons.Net 1.5.0 not yet released - '''AI Martin''' create placeholder CQ
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** Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels
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** {{Bug|221190}} EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly
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** GSoC student Takuya Miyamoto for {{Bug|185925}}
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* '''Uwe:''' -  
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* '''Rupen:''' -
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* '''Michael:''' -  
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* '''Eugene:''' -
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* '''Rado:''' -
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* '''Felix:''' -
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* '''Questions'''
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=== Future and Planning ===
 
* '''Planning''' - '''AI Martin''' to write up what we discussed in Toronto
 
** Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not? - DaveD Mylyn is nice for bug review!
 
** {{Bug|215301}} New Standard Project Plan Format
 
* TM Website
 
** '''AI Kevin''' follow up on his website proposals
 
  
=== '''Old Stuff''' ===
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* '''Bug Triage'''
* '''Unit Tests''' - next priority after API
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** Please take the time and triage your still 3.0 assigned bugs to see which of them can be deferred to 3.0.1
* Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)
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** All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
* Finalizing all features for M7 Feature Freeze
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* {{Bug|221211}} MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. '''AI DaveD/DaveM''' update Javadocs when it's clear what we want
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* {{Bug|220379}} Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter - is this fixed now that IService is IAdaptable as per {{bug|226262}}? '''AI DaveM''' ask reporters
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* {{Bug|220547}} SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local - '''AI DaveM''' think about
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* '''Bugzilla''':
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* '''New and Noteworthy'''
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor hi-priority]
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** I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
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** See [[CDT/User/NewIn50]] for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
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** For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
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*** Useractions
 +
 
 +
* '''Hi-priority-bugs'''
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&cmdtype=doit Severity Major], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=priority&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=P%5B12%5D&field0-0-1=bug_severity&type0-0-1=regexp&value0-0-1=blocker%7Ccritical%7Cmajor Hi-Priority]
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** Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 10 major (DaveD, DaveM, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 20 other P2's
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** Please fix the known hi-priority bugs as soon as possible -- best before the coordinated testing on RC2, to ensure we get good test coverage
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** Community contributions: Only few [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 unapplied patches] right now, should apply now if possible (see also the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] for a query)
 +
 
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* '''Cleanup Work'''
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** Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do:
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*** New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
 +
*** Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
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*** API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - {{Bug|227368}}, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 4] and [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225529#c6 bug 225529 comment 6] - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]]
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*** Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
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*** Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing
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*** Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
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*** Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
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*** Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
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*** Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in [http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-tm-dev/msg01869.html tm-dev E-Mail]
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**** Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss [https://mailman.cs.umd.edu/pipermail/findbugs-discuss/2008-May/002374.html link]
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** '''TM Website:''' revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.
 +
 
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=== What will happen after Ganymede? ===
 +
* Propose working on TM 3.0.1 (bugfixes only) in HEAD until fall
 +
* Start coming up with "Big Rocks" to address in the next cycle; re-use the [[TM Future Planning]] page? Some examples:
 +
** Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware
 +
** Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties
 +
** More dynamic subsystem enablement and configuration (e.g. detect UNIX vs Windows automatically at runtime)
 +
** Hi-Performance, caching EFS provider
 +
** Bring TCF to Maturity
 +
** Quality: Add unittest coverage, reduce bloat, improve performance, streamline APIs
 +
* Shoot for TM 3.1 or 4.0? - DaveD: Attempt 3.1; Xuan: lots of classes moved to "internal" e.g. SystemRemoteCommand; Martin: discuss such issues on bugzilla
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** Martin: Agree, a non-breaking release seems better; Dave: Will increase community confidence
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** Related: Move to Java5? - DaveM: Keep Java 1.4 on the Server, allow 1.5 on the client
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** Martin: Parallel 4.0 and 3.1 development? - DaveD: Try not to do that!
 +
 
 +
=== Questions ===
 +
* '''DaveD''' context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: {{Bug|208062}}
  
* '''Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests'''
 
** Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
 
** Since our [[DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007]] it's now 31 weeks / 5 milestones, so each committer is due 62 fixes / 10 unittests
 
** Current situation is on [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=&y_axis_field=assigned_to&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2007-09-17&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&format=table&action=wrap&negate0=1&field0-0-0=resolution&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=DUPLICATE this bugzilla report]
 
** Unittests: when adding a test, please add the tag '''//-test-author:YourName''' in front of it
 
*** DaveM - 5
 
*** DaveD - 22
 
*** KevinD - 11
 
*** MartinO - 3
 
*** TobiasS - 3
 
*** UweS - 7
 
*** XuanC - 51
 
*** '''Total - 101'''
 
*** Javier - 0
 
  
 
== Vacation, away ==  
 
== Vacation, away ==  
* Rupen vacation May 8-15
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* Martin public holiday Thursday May 22
* Martin public holidays Monday May 12, Thursday May 22
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* Martin NOT in Ottawa for [[E4/Summit]] May 22-23
* Martin in Ottawa for [[E4/Summit]] May 22-23 .. want to meet in Toronto?
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* DaveD Monday May 26 public holiday in US
* Martin vacation June 11 - 22
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* Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- '''AI Martin''' finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
 
* DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
 
* DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
* DaveD in July -- '''AI Martin''' finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
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* DaveD in July
  
 
== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Apr-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
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* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 30-Apr-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''Everyone''': '''Fix PII Issues'''; '''Add @noextend etc''' according to [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] table; Review [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]]
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* '''Everyone''': '''Add @noextend etc''' according to [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] table;
* '''DaveD''': Merge Rupens patches; Update {{bug|221211}} IFileService multi-commands Javadoc
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** Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 what we can
* '''DaveM''': create a new "Future" bug for dstore protocol handshake, cloned from {{bug|220892}}
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** Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
* '''Kevin''': Website Updates
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* '''DaveD''': Investigate {{Bug|230821}} exceptions in IRemoteFileSubSystem; write up coordinated testing Wiki page until Thurs May 22 evening
* '''Rupen''': Attach prototype patch for {{bug|227213}}
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* '''DaveM''': Fix {{Bug|231209}} IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection()
* '''Xuan''': Upgrade Skype to fix quality issues; Use Kevin's Properties for Unit Tests
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* '''Kevin''': -
* '''Martin''': New Project Plan; Commons Net Placeholder CQ; UI/Non-UI Splitting; finish new releng; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests
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* '''Rupen''': -
* '''Javier''': add unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204138#c20 CVS] -- see also [[CVS_Development#Testing]]
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* '''Xuan''': -
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* '''Martin''': Fix {{Bug|233068}} Discovery reexport; Prepare Release Review material; New Project Plan; Critical EFS bugs; UI/Non-UI Splitting; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; E-Mail potential participants of Coordinated Testing; Commons Net Placeholder CQ
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* '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
 
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements
 
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements
* '''Uwe''':  
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* '''Uwe''': -
* '''Rado''':
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* '''Rado''': Fix {{Bug|230919}} IFileService.delete()
* '''Felix''':
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* '''Felix''': -
 
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* '''Eugene''': -
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==

Latest revision as of 12:56, 21 May 2008

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday May 21, 2008 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg
Dial-in: Join Skypecast

Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.

Contents

[edit] Attendees

  • IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber
  • ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
  • Regrets this time: Michael Scharf, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton, Javier Montalvo Orus

[edit] Notes

  • Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 30-Apr-2008
  • Skype Call Quality
    • Skypecast quality was OK in the beginning with up to 4 participants, but became unbearable shortly later. Rado was unable to dial into the Skypecast (sitting behind an HTTP proxy).
    • Normal Skype conference worked very fine for all 8 participants this time, but 8 really is the limit here (9th person trying to accept invitation cannot join).

[edit] New Stuff

  • Late API Change Requests
    • We really need to draw a finishing line now!
    • bug 233068 - [api][breaking] Remove tm.discovery.edit reexport of EMF -- accepted, Martin
    • bug 231209 - [api][breaking] IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection() should be changed to IRemoteFile.getHost() -- accepted, DaveM
    • bug 230821 - [api][breaking] IRemoteFileSubsystem is inconsistent with IFileService -- DaveD to investigate impact, committers in favor of the change if doable.
    • bug 230919 - [api][breaking][files] IFileService.delete() should not return a boolean -- Rado: can handle all cases with exceptions, inconvenient to do both. Martin: boolean value would hardly ever be used. Rado: Not checking return values is bad practice. Martin: It boils down to the question whether it is an error to try and delete a file that's not there. -- accepted, Rado to make the change
    • bug 212742 - [api] Need a Utility to send commands and receive output without prompt -- DaveM: We have RemoteCommandShellOperation with BEGIN-END-TAGS (but how reliable is it?) -- denied, due to lack of time
    • Changes to go into RC2

[edit] Steps Towards Ganymede

  • DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
    • We have RC1, so from now on EVERY checkin must be tracked in bugzilla, even simple cleanups (except documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
    • there MUST be a +1 vote on the bug (though the vote can happen after the fact)
    • Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale
  • Testing
    • We should do another round of coordinated testing with TM 3.0 RC2 in order to find bugs important enough to get fixed
    • Who can organize it? - DaveD write up wiki page, Martin E-mail testers


  • Bug Triage
    • Please take the time and triage your still 3.0 assigned bugs to see which of them can be deferred to 3.0.1
    • All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
  • New and Noteworthy
    • I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
    • See CDT/User/NewIn50 for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
    • For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
      • Useractions
  • Hi-priority-bugs
    • Severity Major, Hi-Priority
    • Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 10 major (DaveD, DaveM, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 20 other P2's
    • Please fix the known hi-priority bugs as soon as possible -- best before the coordinated testing on RC2, to ensure we get good test coverage
    • Community contributions: Only few unapplied patches right now, should apply now if possible (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)
  • Cleanup Work
    • Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do:
      • New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
      • Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
      • API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
      • Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
      • Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing
      • Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
      • Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
      • Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
      • Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
        • Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
    • TM Website: revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.

[edit] What will happen after Ganymede?

  • Propose working on TM 3.0.1 (bugfixes only) in HEAD until fall
  • Start coming up with "Big Rocks" to address in the next cycle; re-use the TM Future Planning page? Some examples:
    • Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware
    • Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties
    • More dynamic subsystem enablement and configuration (e.g. detect UNIX vs Windows automatically at runtime)
    • Hi-Performance, caching EFS provider
    • Bring TCF to Maturity
    • Quality: Add unittest coverage, reduce bloat, improve performance, streamline APIs
  • Shoot for TM 3.1 or 4.0? - DaveD: Attempt 3.1; Xuan: lots of classes moved to "internal" e.g. SystemRemoteCommand; Martin: discuss such issues on bugzilla
    • Martin: Agree, a non-breaking release seems better; Dave: Will increase community confidence
    • Related: Move to Java5? - DaveM: Keep Java 1.4 on the Server, allow 1.5 on the client
    • Martin: Parallel 4.0 and 3.1 development? - DaveD: Try not to do that!

[edit] Questions

  • DaveD context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: bug 208062


[edit] Vacation, away

  • Martin public holiday Thursday May 22
  • Martin NOT in Ottawa for E4/Summit May 22-23
  • DaveD Monday May 26 public holiday in US
  • Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
  • DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
  • DaveD in July

[edit] Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • Everyone: Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table;
    • Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 what we can
    • Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
  • DaveD: Investigate bug 230821 exceptions in IRemoteFileSubSystem; write up coordinated testing Wiki page until Thurs May 22 evening
  • DaveM: Fix bug 231209 IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection()
  • Kevin: -
  • Rupen: -
  • Xuan: -
  • Martin: Fix bug 233068 Discovery reexport; Prepare Release Review material; New Project Plan; Critical EFS bugs; UI/Non-UI Splitting; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; E-Mail potential participants of Coordinated Testing; Commons Net Placeholder CQ
  • Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
  • Michael: Terminal improvements
  • Uwe: -
  • Rado: Fix bug 230919 IFileService.delete()
  • Felix: -
  • Eugene: -

[edit] Next Meeting