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Difference between revisions of "DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 21-Aug-2007"
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| − | | Tuesday [[Aug | + | | Tuesday [[Aug 21, 2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=8&day=21&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1500 UTC / 1100 Eastern] |
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| Dial-in: | | Dial-in: | ||
| − | | | + | | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
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| + | Backup dial-in: International '''+44 (0)1452 567588''' / Freephone '''+1 (866) 6161738''' / UK '''08712460713''' / Passcode: '''0587322148 #''' | ||
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.<br/> | MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.<br/> | ||
'''Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call.''' MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.<br/> | '''Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call.''' MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.<br/> | ||
| − | Skype | + | Skype dial-in: '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.<br/> |
== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
| − | * IBM - Xuan Chen, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, | + | * IBM - Xuan Chen, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian |
| − | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber |
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | ||
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=== Current Work === | === Current Work === | ||
| + | * '''Skype Call Quality''' | ||
| + | ** Very good for everyone (6 attendees, Rupen listening only) | ||
* '''Reminder: Aug 30th is RC1''' as per [[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR1_.2828-Sep-2007.29]], no risky fixes for 2.0.1 after the 30th! (Will fork off a 2.0.1 branch by then) | * '''Reminder: Aug 30th is RC1''' as per [[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR1_.2828-Sep-2007.29]], no risky fixes for 2.0.1 after the 30th! (Will fork off a 2.0.1 branch by then) | ||
* '''Reminder: Start preparing / planning''' for the [[DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007]] | * '''Reminder: Start preparing / planning''' for the [[DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007]] | ||
* '''DaveD:''' {{Bug|194802}} - NPE when restoring; might be gone in the meantime, analyze / reproduce? | * '''DaveD:''' {{Bug|194802}} - NPE when restoring; might be gone in the meantime, analyze / reproduce? | ||
| − | ** {{Bug|198395}} - Connect dstore with expired password | + | ** Analysis by Martin: should be gone by new method of waiting for InitRSEJob; supposedly the problem |
| − | ** {{Bug|197036}} - Avoid plugin activation, dont create all filterpools on startup | + | ** {{Bug|198395}} - Connect dstore with expired password - Dave will look at it (IBM only thing) |
| + | ** {{Bug|197036}} - Avoid plugin activation, dont create all filterpools on startup - will be looking at this week, might be possible without API change | ||
* '''DaveM:''' {{Bug|196662}} - Refresh queries on dispatch thread - is it all fixed now? | * '''DaveM:''' {{Bug|196662}} - Refresh queries on dispatch thread - is it all fixed now? | ||
** {{Bug|200557}} - Review dnd from Project Explorer ({{Bug|192704}} | ** {{Bug|200557}} - Review dnd from Project Explorer ({{Bug|192704}} | ||
** {{Bug|199565}}, {{Bug|199566}}, {{Bug|199568}} - Deadlock issues due to synchronized methods calling out | ** {{Bug|199565}}, {{Bug|199566}}, {{Bug|199568}} - Deadlock issues due to synchronized methods calling out | ||
* '''Kevin:''' {{Bug|168219}} - how to treat recursive delete of a tree where some elements are read-only | * '''Kevin:''' {{Bug|168219}} - how to treat recursive delete of a tree where some elements are read-only | ||
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** Users will want recursive-delete including deleting read-only files. What's the best UI to give it to them? | ** Users will want recursive-delete including deleting read-only files. What's the best UI to give it to them? | ||
| − | *** | + | ** DaveD: How are symlinks treated? - will delete the link, not the file linked |
| − | *** | + | *** What if there are other authorization problems? |
| − | * [[BugDayAugust2007]] -- August 31 -- TM taking part: committers sign up if they can hang out on IRC, add "bugday" keyword to applicable bugs | + | *** Right way seems to be to '''delete what we can delete''', and leave the read-only files untouched (That's what EFS does) --> Will need a change of implementation (Local and DStore) to avoid giving up as soon as one error occurs during delete |
| + | *** Return a MultiStatus to report an accumulate of all the errors (EFS does this, but it's not an absolute must since the read-only ones remain so they can be explored) | ||
| + | *** In addition to that, it may be nice to provide additional API in IFileService#delete(), to ask "force" (delete read-only elements by setting them writable before deletion). That API might also go into EFS. Such additional API is more client-server-friendly. After trying delete without "force", users could review the MultiStatus, and then try again with "force". | ||
| + | ** '''Uwe:''' No news | ||
| + | ** '''Xuan:''' Investigation on IBM RSE shows that Cmd processing uses a lot of memory (Hashmap, Array of output Strings) - will look at with DaveM | ||
| + | ** '''Rupen:''' No news | ||
| + | * [[BugDayAugust2007]] -- August 31 -- TM taking part: committers sign up if they can hang out on [[IRC]] (channel #eclipse-bugs), add "bugday" keyword to applicable bugs | ||
* '''Questions''' | * '''Questions''' | ||
| − | + | ** Nothing except what's mentioned above | |
* '''Bugzilla''': | * '''Bugzilla''': | ||
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== Vacation, Away == | == Vacation, Away == | ||
| − | * | + | * Labor Day (Sep.3rd in US, CDN also Sep.4th) |
| − | * | + | * Xuan vacation next week (Aug.27- Sep.2) |
| − | * DaveM vacation Aug.6 till Aug. | + | * DaveM vacation Aug.6 till Aug.23 |
* Javier vacation Aug.13 till Aug.31 | * Javier vacation Aug.13 till Aug.31 | ||
Latest revision as of 10:44, 21 August 2007
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Tuesday Aug 21, 2007 at 1500 UTC / 1100 Eastern |
| Dial-in: | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Agenda
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 14-Aug-2007
Current Work
- Skype Call Quality
- Very good for everyone (6 attendees, Rupen listening only)
- Reminder: Aug 30th is RC1 as per TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR1_.2828-Sep-2007.29, no risky fixes for 2.0.1 after the 30th! (Will fork off a 2.0.1 branch by then)
- Reminder: Start preparing / planning for the DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007
- DaveD: bug 194802 - NPE when restoring; might be gone in the meantime, analyze / reproduce?
- Analysis by Martin: should be gone by new method of waiting for InitRSEJob; supposedly the problem
- bug 198395 - Connect dstore with expired password - Dave will look at it (IBM only thing)
- bug 197036 - Avoid plugin activation, dont create all filterpools on startup - will be looking at this week, might be possible without API change
- DaveM: bug 196662 - Refresh queries on dispatch thread - is it all fixed now?
- bug 200557 - Review dnd from Project Explorer (bug 192704
- bug 199565, bug 199566, bug 199568 - Deadlock issues due to synchronized methods calling out
- Kevin: bug 168219 - how to treat recursive delete of a tree where some elements are read-only
- Users will want recursive-delete including deleting read-only files. What's the best UI to give it to them?
- DaveD: How are symlinks treated? - will delete the link, not the file linked
- What if there are other authorization problems?
- Right way seems to be to delete what we can delete, and leave the read-only files untouched (That's what EFS does) --> Will need a change of implementation (Local and DStore) to avoid giving up as soon as one error occurs during delete
- Return a MultiStatus to report an accumulate of all the errors (EFS does this, but it's not an absolute must since the read-only ones remain so they can be explored)
- In addition to that, it may be nice to provide additional API in IFileService#delete(), to ask "force" (delete read-only elements by setting them writable before deletion). That API might also go into EFS. Such additional API is more client-server-friendly. After trying delete without "force", users could review the MultiStatus, and then try again with "force".
- Uwe: No news
- Xuan: Investigation on IBM RSE shows that Cmd processing uses a lot of memory (Hashmap, Array of output Strings) - will look at with DaveM
- Rupen: No news
- BugDayAugust2007 -- August 31 -- TM taking part: committers sign up if they can hang out on IRC (channel #eclipse-bugs), add "bugday" keyword to applicable bugs
- Questions
- Nothing except what's mentioned above
- Bugzilla:
Vacation, Away
- Labor Day (Sep.3rd in US, CDN also Sep.4th)
- Xuan vacation next week (Aug.27- Sep.2)
- DaveM vacation Aug.6 till Aug.23
- Javier vacation Aug.13 till Aug.31
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD: 2.0.1 important fixes, then Doc bugs (Tutorial)
- DaveM: Ask Pete Nicholls about room for F2F meeting in Toronto; bug 196662 refresh on dispatch thread
- Xuan: Unit Tests
- Kevin: 2.0.1 fixes
- Martin: Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; EFS fixes; unit tests; Migration Docs, EFS Fixes, Releng Fixes, Newsgroup
- Javier: 2.0.1 fixes, unit tests
- Michael: Terminal performance improvements