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| − | | Martin || 50% || || | + | | Martin || 50% || Making stuff internal, preparing testing || 100% |
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| − | | DaveD || 80% || || | + | | DaveD || 80% || UI/Non-UI refactorings || 50% |
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| − | | DaveM || 50% || || | + | | DaveM || 50% || IContextObject for SystemView, SystemView bugs || 60% |
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| − | | Kushal || 100% || || | + | | Kushal || 100% || Encodings, Streams for IFileService, EFS, SystemRegistry improvements for SD || 70% |
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| − | | Javier || 50% || || 50% | + | | Javier || 50% || SD improvements, making FTP internal || 50% |
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| Ted || 0% || || 0% | | Ted || 0% || || 0% | ||
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| − | | Uwe || | + | | Uwe || 100% || dynamic systemTypes, newConnectionWizard extension point || 90% |
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| − | | Michael || 20% || || 20% | + | | Michael || 20% || making Terminal internal, Terminal performance || 20% |
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=== Upcoming Work === | === Upcoming Work === | ||
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*** Please test thoroughly today! | *** Please test thoroughly today! | ||
** We'll have more I-builds at least once every day until M5. But lets find the issues first before we start fixing minor ones | ** We'll have more I-builds at least once every day until M5. But lets find the issues first before we start fixing minor ones | ||
| − | * Current plan items and API things: | + | ** Invest 2-3 hours of testing before starting the bugfix cycle |
| + | * '''Current plan items and API things:''' | ||
| + | ** Changes in Platform M5 and M6: | ||
| + | *** Official API for ssh prefs | ||
| + | *** ssh now part of cvs feature | ||
| + | *** Helpserver changed, Userdocs not accessible right now; DaveD will check | ||
** ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173772 Bugzilla#173772]) '''RSE New Connection Wizard Rework''' | ** ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173772 Bugzilla#173772]) '''RSE New Connection Wizard Rework''' | ||
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170909 170909] (DaveD) User Actions & Import/Export | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170909 170909] (DaveD) User Actions & Import/Export | ||
| + | *** Attached on bugzilla; '''AI Martin''' will upload refactored version after M5 | ||
| + | *** No need to rush anything into bugzilla, DaveD to work with Kushal on finishing the contribution | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting | ||
| + | *** Preferences finished, these were the hardest; more stuff to do - DaveD really wants to get it done soon after M5 | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170627 170627] (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren() | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170627 170627] (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren() | ||
| + | *** DaveM wants to get rid of the FilterString stuff in IRemoteFile now that IContextObject works | ||
| + | *** getImageDescriptor, getLabel should also get the context | ||
| + | *** more to do to get closer aligned with Platform (bugzilla bug exists) | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170922 170922] (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170922 170922] (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls | ||
| + | *** What should be the recommended way of re-using existing subsystems against a new systemType | ||
| + | *** Registering FTP or ssh against Windows will not be case insensitive; roots, drives etc are all unix-style | ||
| + | *** DaveM: Dstore overrides SubSystemConfiguration for Windows in order to provide different filters etc; The SubsystemConfiguration defines the filters etc | ||
| + | *** If we make SubsystemConfiguration public, we'll also need to make stuff API that is being returned; probably make some methods final that return non-API interfaces | ||
| + | *** What people win: createDefaultFilterPools(), isCaseSensitive(), for UDA it might also be important | ||
| + | *** '''Decision:''' make the SubSystemConfigurations API again for M5, '''AI Martin''' make it API | ||
| + | *** Kushal: API Scanner? - Martin: too early to use yet, do it for M6 | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170915 170915] (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170915 170915] (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access | ||
| − | *** AI Martin fix the ISV docs | + | *** '''AI Martin''' fix the ISV docs |
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163820 163820] (Kushal) Encodings | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163820 163820] (Kushal) Encodings | ||
*** Test cases? Manual Tests? | *** Test cases? Manual Tests? | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170916 170916] (Kushal) EFS | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170916 170916] (Kushal) EFS | ||
*** Oliver Hardt looking at it; Kushal prepared Streams for ftp, ssh | *** Oliver Hardt looking at it; Kushal prepared Streams for ftp, ssh | ||
| + | *** Kushal trying to fix it for M5 | ||
** Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed | ** Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed | ||
| + | *** '''AI Martin''' write bug for preselection | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170832 170832] (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams) | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170832 170832] (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams) | ||
| − | *** AI Martin: timestamp, ro-flags still TBD for ssh | + | *** '''AI Martin''': timestamp, ro-flags still TBD for ssh |
** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API | ** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API | ||
=== Other Stuff to Do === | === Other Stuff to Do === | ||
| − | + | * Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more) | |
| − | + | ** Prerequisite: need to be able and disable registered stuff; TBD through Capabilities | |
| − | + | ** Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core | |
| − | + | ** org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core) | |
| − | + | ** org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dstore, shells.dstore) | |
| − | + | ** Have it split up now in order to allow people "get what they need"; and as an example for ISVs "here's how to do your processes" - having stuff bundled together gives people the impression that they can't change it | |
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| − | *** Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core | + | |
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* Add Montavista shell processes subsystem | * Add Montavista shell processes subsystem | ||
| + | ** Martin wants to put it into processes.core | ||
| + | ** DaveM: confusing for people who want to use it | ||
| + | ** Would it be better to have a Process Service to interface with the Shell Service rather than doing a subsystem --> Allows to take the ProcessServiceSubsystem and choose which service to use | ||
| + | ** '''Decision:''' Put it into its own plugin but part of the core feature for now, think about consolidating plugins in next iteration | ||
| + | * Other stuff | ||
** Orbit bundles to be added differently | ** Orbit bundles to be added differently | ||
** Unittests to run every night | ** Unittests to run every night | ||
| − | ** Version Number Changes to | + | ** '''AI Martin''' Version Number Changes in plugins and features - any more to do? |
** Copyright Year Changes | ** Copyright Year Changes | ||
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=== Communications === | === Communications === | ||
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** (done) Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" | ** (done) Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" | ||
** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects''' | ** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects''' | ||
| − | *** AI create bugzilla against CDT | + | *** '''AI Martin''' create bugzilla against CDT |
| − | ** Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt | + | ** Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> '''AI Martin''' wait for Platform and adapt |
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now | * For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now | ||
* '''Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it''' | * '''Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it''' | ||
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* Change Requests | * Change Requests | ||
* Vacations, Holidays etc. | * Vacations, Holidays etc. | ||
| + | ** DaveM, MichaelS, Martin, Javier coming to EclipseCon - DaveM flying in Sunday afternoon, staying at the Hyatt; | ||
| + | *** '''AI Martin''' arrange a committer meeting in addition to the BoF | ||
** DaveD going to Florida in February for a week | ** DaveD going to Florida in February for a week | ||
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | * Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Feb-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Feb-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
| − | * '''DaveD''' - Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests; | + | * '''DaveD''' - Filter testing, Fix User Docs; Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests; |
* '''DaveM''' - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests | * '''DaveM''' - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests | ||
* '''Kushal''' - EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests | * '''Kushal''' - EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests | ||
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== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
| − | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting | + | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-Feb-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=2&day=28&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1430 UTC] |
[[Category:DSDP/TM]] | [[Category:DSDP/TM]] | ||
Latest revision as of 06:44, 28 February 2007
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Tuesday Feb 20, 2007 at 1700 UTC |
| Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
Latest News
| Martin | 50% | Making stuff internal, preparing testing | 100% |
| DaveD | 80% | UI/Non-UI refactorings | 50% |
| DaveM | 50% | IContextObject for SystemView, SystemView bugs | 60% |
| Kushal | 100% | Encodings, Streams for IFileService, EFS, SystemRegistry improvements for SD | 70% |
| Javier | 50% | SD improvements, making FTP internal | 50% |
| Ted | 0% | 0% | |
| Uwe | 100% | dynamic systemTypes, newConnectionWizard extension point | 90% |
| Michael | 20% | making Terminal internal, Terminal performance | 20% |
Upcoming Work
- Top priority this week is getting M5 stable.
- TM 2.0 M5 Testing
- New build on I20070220-1126
- New wizard problems fixed
- Please test thoroughly today!
- We'll have more I-builds at least once every day until M5. But lets find the issues first before we start fixing minor ones
- Invest 2-3 hours of testing before starting the bugfix cycle
- Current plan items and API things:
- Changes in Platform M5 and M6:
- Official API for ssh prefs
- ssh now part of cvs feature
- Helpserver changed, Userdocs not accessible right now; DaveD will check
- (Bugzilla#173772) RSE New Connection Wizard Rework
- 170909 (DaveD) User Actions & Import/Export
- Attached on bugzilla; AI Martin will upload refactored version after M5
- No need to rush anything into bugzilla, DaveD to work with Kushal on finishing the contribution
- 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting
- Preferences finished, these were the hardest; more stuff to do - DaveD really wants to get it done soon after M5
- 170627 (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren()
- DaveM wants to get rid of the FilterString stuff in IRemoteFile now that IContextObject works
- getImageDescriptor, getLabel should also get the context
- more to do to get closer aligned with Platform (bugzilla bug exists)
- 170922 (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
- What should be the recommended way of re-using existing subsystems against a new systemType
- Registering FTP or ssh against Windows will not be case insensitive; roots, drives etc are all unix-style
- DaveM: Dstore overrides SubSystemConfiguration for Windows in order to provide different filters etc; The SubsystemConfiguration defines the filters etc
- If we make SubsystemConfiguration public, we'll also need to make stuff API that is being returned; probably make some methods final that return non-API interfaces
- What people win: createDefaultFilterPools(), isCaseSensitive(), for UDA it might also be important
- Decision: make the SubSystemConfigurations API again for M5, AI Martin make it API
- Kushal: API Scanner? - Martin: too early to use yet, do it for M6
- 170915 (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
- AI Martin fix the ISV docs
- 163820 (Kushal) Encodings
- Test cases? Manual Tests?
- 170916 (Kushal) EFS
- Oliver Hardt looking at it; Kushal prepared Streams for ftp, ssh
- Kushal trying to fix it for M5
- Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed
- AI Martin write bug for preselection
- 170832 (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams)
- AI Martin: timestamp, ro-flags still TBD for ssh
- add unit tests for all new or modified API
- Changes in Platform M5 and M6:
Other Stuff to Do
- Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
- Prerequisite: need to be able and disable registered stuff; TBD through Capabilities
- Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core
- org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core)
- org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dstore, shells.dstore)
- Have it split up now in order to allow people "get what they need"; and as an example for ISVs "here's how to do your processes" - having stuff bundled together gives people the impression that they can't change it
- Add Montavista shell processes subsystem
- Martin wants to put it into processes.core
- DaveM: confusing for people who want to use it
- Would it be better to have a Process Service to interface with the Shell Service rather than doing a subsystem --> Allows to take the ProcessServiceSubsystem and choose which service to use
- Decision: Put it into its own plugin but part of the core feature for now, think about consolidating plugins in next iteration
- Other stuff
- Orbit bundles to be added differently
- Unittests to run every night
- AI Martin Version Number Changes in plugins and features - any more to do?
- Copyright Year Changes
Communications
- Europa Requirements
- (done) TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa
- (done) Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender"
- Avoiding non-API from other projects
- AI Martin create bugzilla against CDT
- Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
- For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
- Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it
- (done) Fix N-builds (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
- Please continue on Compiler Warnings
- Change Requests
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- DaveM, MichaelS, Martin, Javier coming to EclipseCon - DaveM flying in Sunday afternoon, staying at the Hyatt;
- AI Martin arrange a committer meeting in addition to the BoF
- DaveD going to Florida in February for a week
- DaveM, MichaelS, Martin, Javier coming to EclipseCon - DaveM flying in Sunday afternoon, staying at the Hyatt;
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Filter testing, Fix User Docs; Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests;
- DaveM - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests
- Kushal - EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
- Martin - EclipseCon tutorial; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate Commons.net to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
- Javier - Make discovery internal; Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
- Ted -
- Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
- Uwe - Retargetable actions, Improved Refresh